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Title: Train falls from bridge
Post by: Jerrys HO on April 27, 2015, 10:07:17 PM
What a disaster today in New Orleans. Winds were clocked at 111mph and knocked cars off elevated span.....
http://ktla.com/2015/04/27/incredible-video-captures-train-being-blown-off-elevated-bridge-during-storm-in-new-

what a mess and that was in a commercial area. I don't know if it landed on any buildings or cars yet.
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: jbrock27 on April 28, 2015, 06:14:20 AM
jeeeezzzzzz :o
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: WoundedBear on April 28, 2015, 10:36:37 AM
Winds weren't quite that high..............

"The storms, with winds up to 70 miles per hour (113 kph), moved quickly toward the east across the southern third of Louisiana before heading out to the Gulf of Mexico, National Weather Service meteorologist Frank Revitte said"

Sid
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: jbrock27 on April 28, 2015, 01:10:16 PM
If a train falls off a bridge and there is no one around, does it make a noise? :D
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: GN.2-6-8-0 on April 28, 2015, 01:39:10 PM
What's strange to me was the way the car with the camera backed out of a parking spot to park in the street like he knew something was going to happen.....just really strange!!
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: rogertra on April 28, 2015, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Jerrys HO on April 27, 2015, 10:07:17 PM
What a disaster today in New Orleans. Winds were clocked at 111mph and knocked cars off elevated span.....
http://ktla.com/2015/04/27/incredible-video-captures-train-being-blown-off-elevated-bridge-during-storm-in-new-

what a mess and that was in a commercial area. I don't know if it landed on any buildings or cars yet.

Congrats on the correct grammar usage.  The train fell from the bridge and not "off" the bridge. 'Off' implies the train wasn't on the bridge when it fell as it was already off the bridge.  :) 

Sorry, pet peeve of mine.  :) 

Cheers

Roger T.




Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: jbrock27 on April 28, 2015, 03:12:23 PM
I guess that includes me too since I also used the word "off".

I have some pet peeves too:

1) People who leave their shopping carts in the store parking lot and don't bring them to the cart return or back into the store;
2) People who drive below the speed limit, in the left lane;
3) People who don't respond to PMs;
4) People who act like those things that control the volume on the stereo.  What are those things called again?...
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: Jerrys HO on April 28, 2015, 05:19:23 PM
Sid, I don't know if we will ever know the truth of the wind speed but I was at the airport doing some work and the tower reported 111mph wind speeds, not gusts.
I will tell you I have been through many hurricanes but that wind felt worse.
Roger, Thanks for the compliment as I am by far no grammar major, thank goodness for spell check.
GN, I never even thought about that, makes you wonder if he had the feeling because how many have a camera ready to shoot a train falling from a bridge.
Jim, listen closely to the video and you can here the cars hit the ground. He was approximately 1000 yds. from the trestle.

By the way that span goes into the Union Pacific, Norfolk Southern and BNSF yards.
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: jbrock27 on April 28, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
Quote from: Jerrys HO on April 28, 2015, 05:19:23 PM
Jim, listen closely to the video and you can here the cars hit the ground. He was approximately 1000 yds. from the trestle.

Thanks Boss; I was making a joke.  Ever hear the one about the tree falling in the forest? ::)
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: rogertra on April 28, 2015, 11:21:18 PM
I read in a news report the sustained winds were something like 70 MPH at the time.

Cheers

Roger T.

Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: Jerrys HO on April 28, 2015, 11:45:20 PM
70 or 100 mph who knows,  Took some serious wind to blow them over the side. I don't believe everything news media reports anyway.
I know they were empty but what would a box car way empty?
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: RAM on April 29, 2015, 12:15:10 AM
I think they were trailers on platforms.
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: rogertra on April 29, 2015, 12:53:11 AM
Quote from: Jerrys HO on April 28, 2015, 11:45:20 PM
70 or 100 mph who knows,  Took some serious wind to blow them over the side. I don't believe everything news media reports anyway.
I know they were empty but what would a box car way empty?


50ft boxcar, around 70,000lbs tare/light weight.

Cheers

Roger T.
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: jbrock27 on April 29, 2015, 06:25:27 AM
LT WT printed on the sides of a couple of my 50ft boxcars = 58,700
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: rogertra on April 29, 2015, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: jbrock27 on April 29, 2015, 06:25:27 AM
LT WT printed on the sides of a couple of my 50ft boxcars = 58,700

I just went to a BN site and looked at the first listing for 50ft boxcar.

Didn't think they vary that much: -

http://www.bnsf.com/customers/pdf/50ftF_BoxcarDiagram.pdf (http://www.bnsf.com/customers/pdf/50ftF_BoxcarDiagram.pdf)

Cheers

Roger T.

Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: jbrock27 on April 29, 2015, 06:29:25 PM
Here is a possible reason why: one the aforementioned boxcars has a Built date of: 5/85.  I have no 2015 model boxcars to run with my TechnoToasters (actually, I don't have any of those either :D).
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: rogertra on April 29, 2015, 06:54:09 PM
Quote from: jbrock27 on April 29, 2015, 06:29:25 PM
Here is a possible reason why: one the aforementioned boxcars has a Built date of: 5/85.  I have no 2015 model boxcars to run with my TechnoToasters (actually, I don't have any of those either :D).

Makes sense.  :) 

Cheers

Roger T.

Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: jbrock27 on April 29, 2015, 07:27:21 PM
What changed in them over time to increase the LT WT ?
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: rogertra on April 29, 2015, 09:19:39 PM
Quote from: jbrock27 on April 29, 2015, 07:27:21 PM
What changed in them over time to increase the LT WT ?

No idea but I'd speculate it's to do with increased drawbar and buffing loads mandated by the FRA requiring a stronger centre sill, the extra weight of that corrugated steel body, large, 12' x 12'  heavier door, cushion underframe, larger truck, large 36" wheels, built to plate F standards of 16'-10 5/8" height etc., etc..

Cheers

Roger T.
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: Brewman on April 30, 2015, 11:01:43 AM
The picture I saw posted last night shows what appear to be well cars and containers on the ground.
Title: Re: Train falls from bridge
Post by: Ken G Price on April 30, 2015, 09:05:25 PM
Quote from: Brewman on April 30, 2015, 11:01:43 AM
The picture I saw posted last night shows what appear to be well cars and containers on the ground.
Even in the posted video you see that it is well cars with containers. At least I can.