Yes, another project to share. Gotta keep my hands busy... still waiting for the USRA Mikados to hit the streets.
Anyway, this is a brass B&O Q-4b 2-8-2. Rather that start from the beginning, here are some progress shots:
Locomotive mechanism:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0069_zps9hcixx5d.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0069_zps9hcixx5d.jpg.html)
Installed a new motor, the old one was too noisy and vibratey. Also modified a kadee coupler to fit in the front.
Rear angle showing the wiring. Needed leads for the headlight and a reverse light plug:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0070_zpsx6xcroqj.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0070_zpsx6xcroqj.jpg.html)
Another angle:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0072_zpsus1krpc8.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0072_zpsus1krpc8.jpg.html)
All the truck parts need to be painted separately:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0077_zpsejuc78hd.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0077_zpsejuc78hd.jpg.html)
The tender:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0078_zps1yr7h7ac.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0078_zps1yr7h7ac.jpg.html)
Drilled a hole for the reverse light:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0081_zpsybravvr7.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0081_zpsybravvr7.jpg.html)
The loco shell:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0087_zpsdegvqdyk.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0087_zpsdegvqdyk.jpg.html)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0089_zps4effzlwx.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0089_zps4effzlwx.jpg.html)
Finally, all the little wheels were brush painted:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0097_01_zpsbx0ztdll.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0097_01_zpsbx0ztdll.jpg.html)
Will share more as I make progress.
Regards,
Jonathan
Have read that after some initial skepticism, the USRA designs were well received by the railroads. True, mechanical is most important to the actual railroads, but the designs did have good lines.
Ah, recognize the motor lettering as NWSL.
Vanderbilt tenders are interesting, kind of like them.
I've for a long time had a notion to create, just for fun, a really ugly beast via adding Vanderbilt tender to a Camelback locomotive.
Bell and whistle cords are nice touches.
Is loco going to be solid black, or have touches of color in locations such as cab roof, and window frames?
I have a rare color photograph of the locomotive I'm trying to model. There are no colorful flourishes; just black and graphite on smokebox and firebox. I'll still need a few colors for the controls in the cab.
Regards,
Jonathan
Jonathan--don't post as much as I used to, due to being busy with a couple of other things, but the work you and Roger do is still top-notch, looking forward to seeing the finished product!
on30gn15--A camelback with a Vanderbilt tank? Son, I say son, there's a prototype for everything! The NYO&W had such a beast! I don't have my copy of "The O&W" in front of me, but if memory is right, it was a 2-8-0, and the tank was second hand from somewhere else. For all I know, the engine may have been second hand, too, and from a different source.
If you want to see a REALLY ugly locomotive, check out "Erie Power," published by the late Al Staufer. The Erie had some Vauclain compound Decapod 2-10-0s that looked pretty conventional as Camelbacks go when new, but when they were rebiult with a really high single cab on top of the Wooten firebox--whooee! That NYO&W engine looked good by comparison!
By the way, some firm made a plastic 2-6-0 Camelback some years ago--in some ways a rather primitive model, don't remember who did it now, and it was a generic model--but it did most closely resemble a series of engines on the Old Woman. Would take a lot of work, including a better tender to get it to look right, but you had something to start with at least.
IHC did a "Mother Hubbard" 2-6-0 Camelback and Mantua did an 0-6-0 and 2-8-2 Camelback some years back.
Len
Quote from: Len on July 14, 2015, 04:00:24 PM
IHC did a "Mother Hubbard" 2-6-0 Camelback and Mantua did an 0-6-0 and 2-8-2 Camelback some years back.
Len
Thanks for tickling these old brain cells, Len!
You're right, it was IHC that had a sort-of NYO&W 2-6-0 Camelback.
Mantua had a number of Camelback engines over the years. One of the first HO models of any kind was Mantua's "Goat," based on a Reading 0-4-0; this model dated back to the 1930s. Many years later this engine was reintroduced in plastic as both an 0-4-0 and an 0-6-0, both still inspired by Reading prototypes.
Mantua also had, as noted, 4-6-2 and 2-8-2 Camelbacks; these were patterned after Lehigh Valley engines.
Other Reading engines have been mass produced over the years. These included the I-10 2-8-0, made by Varney in metal back in the 40s and early 50s; a surprisingly good looking (but unfortunately poor running) Bachmann model of the same engine from the 1970s (the tender is still made and mated to some of the USRA 0-6-0 models as well as a freelanced 2-6-2 based on it); a 4-4-2 and 4-6-2, both in metal by Mantua in the 1940s; a streamlined 4-6-2 based on the Crusader by Bowser-Penn Line in the 1940s; and most recently, a T-1 4-8-4 by another manufacturer in various guises of its prototype, including in service and fantrip versions, a Chessie Steam special variant, and even a version based on the same engine disguised as a Delaware & Hudson 4-8-4! The last one was for that road's sesquicentenial, and only ran in that configuration for a handful of excursion trips in one year.
Oh my, what a collection of Camelback photos!
https://sites.google.com/site/camelbacksteamlocomotives/home
https://sites.google.com/site/camelbacksteamlocomotives/home/1-0-4-0-0-6-0/2-0-8-0/3-2-6-0/4-2-8-0/5-2-8-0/6-2-8-0/7-4-8-0/8-4-4-0/9-4-4-0/a-4-4-2/b-4-6-0/c-4-6-0/d-4-6-0/e-other
My grandfather has a brass camelback, I believe it is a 2-8-0, for the CNJ. The CNJ having had them long after other roads got rid of them since, due to being in NJ only, they didn't have to remove them from service after the ICC ruling.
While I would not want to be crew on a real camelback loco, they are interesting beasts.
Last year 2 of the IHC models were acquired for eventual painting for one of my freelance roads.
CNJ had some nice looking 4-6-0. Model Railroader's Steam Locomotive Cyclopedia has an 1880s, Reading, I think, 2-8-0 which has an interesting low-slung look. An older issue of Model Railroader magazine has a 4-4-0 from someone, Erie? DL&W?
And then there are the 1850s Ross Winans jobs on the B&O - think someone is doing or has done them in O.
Ya know, one of those B&O beasts would make a nice companion to the Lafayette and the DeWitt Clinton.
Reminds me that the B&O had a consolidation (2-8-0) camelback. There's even a brass model of it.
Anyway, back to this project... Not quite ready to assemble the major parts, but we're close. Here are a few shots:
Tender about done. The coal load glue is still very wet.
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0099_01_zps4epemfcg.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0099_01_zps4epemfcg.jpg.html)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0103_01_zpss4lu1iwn.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0103_01_zpss4lu1iwn.jpg.html)
As usual, I put in a working reverse light using a warm white SMD. I had to drill a notch in the lens so the SMD will fit in the reverse light can... which is very small:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0102_01_zpsklugosmj.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0102_01_zpsklugosmj.jpg.html)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0100_01_zpssninsmue.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0100_01_zpssninsmue.jpg.html)
Loco shell. I went farther with the weathering than I had intended. It happens:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0109_zpsyzz7q21s.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0109_zpsyzz7q21s.jpg.html)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0108_01_zpsnrivdbym.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0108_01_zpsnrivdbym.jpg.html)
I don't have a seated brakeman or a fireman at the moment. They'll have to come later:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0106_zpsatpvwbp6.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0106_zpsatpvwbp6.jpg.html)
Installed the trailing truck and added weathering to the mechanism:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0114_01_zpsjfxuybey.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0114_01_zpsjfxuybey.jpg.html)
Smokebox front. Need to buff it out a bit more to smooth out the neolube:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0117_zpssg9phrvp.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0117_zpssg9phrvp.jpg.html)
Should be done in the next few days.
Regards,
Jonathan
Jon - is that the Westside version of this engine? I had one that was manufactured in 1976 and the Westside used a red white and blue box. Sad to say the engine was problematic. The importerss were going to Korea for models and the first few years of Korean stuff had many problems. There were a lot of cold solder joints and my mike had an undersized can motor and it was noisy and fast. Mine came with the optional water bottle auxiliary tender. The frame was too wide on it so the engine needed wide radius turns when running with the auxiliary tender. Since our club at the time had a minimum radius of 4 feet that wasn't a problem
When I started doing my post graduate work I decided that I didn't have time to tinker with the engine so I sold it at one of the Timonium shows. To this day I'm sorry that I sold it. The guy who bought it had a B&O hat and denim engineer's jacket which he said belonged to his dad - a B&O engineer. So I know the engine went to a good home.
Jon - your work inspires people. Whether it's brass or a Bachmann product you always add something.
Thanks Woody! Hope this helps give ideas to the younger crowd. Gotta keep this wonderful hobby going.
Yes, this is one of the Westside versions. In fact, I have both versions of the Q-4b. One was the builder's version with twin air compressors and no brakeman's hootch (1976 like yours). This is the later version, corrected for how the B&O modified them.
Both versions had terrible motors, which I replaced, but they have a great gearbox. Again, yes. Westside was known for occasional bad solder joints. I have three Westside models and all need little repairs here and there, though nothing insurmountable. I also have one Overland model (kaching). It, too, needed solder repairs. Only PFMs seem to be rock solid construction. Go figure...
One of the reasons it takes me so long to assemble these models: all the little extra details that are needed--like lighting for example. Also, I like to add some sort of illusory connector to the coupler and lift bar, like so:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0121_zpsp78hfxjm.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0121_zpsp78hfxjm.jpg.html)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0133_zpsmdqvwvs7.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0133_zpsmdqvwvs7.jpg.html)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0128_zps20rtm9m1.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0128_zps20rtm9m1.jpg.html)
I know a small piece of chain is not correct, but it looks nicer than anything I could model that would look close to the prototype.
And did anybody notice I painted the inside of the cab walls green? Not an easy trick to pull off. ;D
Here's the other Westside Q-4b
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN3792_zps73cf13d1.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN3792_zps73cf13d1.jpg.html)
Regards,
Jonathan
Still need to do some wire adjustment between loco and tender, but here's a couple preliminary shots of the locomotive:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Rolling%20Stock/DSC_0155_zpsdvitxcta.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSC_0155_zpsdvitxcta.jpg.html)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Rolling%20Stock/DSC_0148_zps05koeh6g.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Rolling%20Stock/DSC_0148_zps05koeh6g.jpg.html)
If you click on the images, you can magnify the photos to full size.
Regards,
Jonathan
Nice work as always, though for some reason this particular model is bittersweet. Reminds me that we have so little in the way of later B&O steam in existence today--no Q-4s, no Big Sixes, no T-3 4-8-2s, no EL-3s, no EM-1s. . . :'(
Jon - what color are the engineer's shoes? You painted the cab interior - wow.
Westside models went on a decline in the late Seventies because the owner was involved in a divorce. He turned to new Korean builders whose quality couldn't match the Japanese models imported by PFM. PFM later used Korean builders but the quality was much improved. Generally models by Empire Midland and Hallmark were things to avoid unless you were a serious brass guy. Being a Southern Railway fan I bought an Empire Midland Southern 4-8-2. The tender wheels were out of round and out of gauge. Every time I ran it something fell off. I had (and still have) a resistance soldering rig and got lots of practice tinkering with brass engines.
Keep up the good work. Did you color the gauges on the cab back head like the model airplane guys do with cockpit gauges?
I get chain for the wooden ships I build from this place:
http://www.hobbylinc.com/cgi-bin/s8.cgi?cat_s=BJ&str_s=chain (http://www.hobbylinc.com/cgi-bin/s8.cgi?cat_s=BJ&str_s=chain)
Len
Quote from: doctorwayne on July 19, 2015, 12:22:09 PM
Quote from: J3a-614 on July 19, 2015, 01:00:56 AM
Nice work as always, though for some reason this particular model is bittersweet. Reminds me that we have so little in the way of later B&O steam in existence today--no Q-4s, no Big Sixes, no T-3 4-8-2s, no EL-3s, no EM-1s. . . :'(
I believe our hosts offer a very nice EM-1 - if I needed a big locomotive, it would be my first choice, even though I don't model the B&O.
Wayne
I think he was talking in the real world Wayne. Only two known "modern" B&O Steam engines still exsist. the 4500 a Q3 USRA Mikado and 5300 "President Washington" P7 4-6-2. Most of the rest of B&O steam still in exsistance is 1800's stuff.
Did some poking around, and these guys http://www.traincat2.com/d_detailparts.htm (http://www.traincat2.com/d_detailparts.htm) have 52LPI and 72LPI chain. The 72LPI is etched brass, so the 'links' may actually be an optical illusion rather than functionally flexible.
Len
Thanks for the kind words, guys.
I happen to pick up some 50 links-per-inch chain at the Timonium train show. Usually I have 40-LPI stuff from Detail Associates. Are they part of A-line now? Like Dr. Wayne, I use the same chain on brake rigging... sometimes. Sometimes I get lazy and use the resin chain that comes with the kit.
The engineer is what's left from a WS pack of engineers. I had to amputate his right leg to get him to fit. Though I would prefer the PSC brass figures--hard to find and now way overpriced due to their scarcity.
Didn't paint the gages... yet. I wasn't feeling too confident so I left them alone. Perhaps a few new tiny paint brushes will get me feeling more brave.
I like the all-wheel pick up photos. I once toyed with an idea of using kadee knuckle springs fed through a hole drilled in the plastic brakes. Left the idea alone. As long as the track and wheels are clean, the locos run fine. I keep thinking that one day, if I try to sell any of my brassies, I might have a hard time finding a buyer, if I modify the locos too much.
I'm on to testing the loco right now. The lights are working fine:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0161_zpsziohhrd9.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0161_zpsziohhrd9.jpg.html)
(had a little trouble with focus this morning)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0167_zpsvfwneowx.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0167_zpsvfwneowx.jpg.html)
The drive train is smooth and quiet.
However, I have a derailment issue with the front truck on the tender. Will need to spend some time solving that problem. Then I hope to test the pulling power and shoot a video... perhaps with both Q-4s pulling a train.
Regards,
Jonathan
A friend and I actually created the pilot models for the Westside Q-4's, using old Akane models as the basis. Basically, we stripped off all of the details from the boilers and started over. I got one of the first models when Westside released them. Yes, the first ones had this pitiful little can motor, and the smokebox front was incorrect. I replaced the motor with a fat Sagami that just fits in the firebox, and obtained the correct front. When our club went to CTC 16 control (yes, that's a long time ago, now) the Vandy tender was not readily adaptable to installing a decoder, so I replaced it with the tender from the Rivarossi Big Six. Cut out the coal load to install the receiver, then inserted a removable load made from a block of balsa wood shaped and covered with coal. The model has since gone to DCC and still runs very well.
Quote from: BaltoOhioRRfan on July 19, 2015, 03:43:54 PM
Quote from: doctorwayne on July 19, 2015, 12:22:09 PM
Quote from: J3a-614 on July 19, 2015, 01:00:56 AM
Nice work as always, though for some reason this particular model is bittersweet. Reminds me that we have so little in the way of later B&O steam in existence today--no Q-4s, no Big Sixes, no T-3 4-8-2s, no EL-3s, no EM-1s. . . :'(
I believe our hosts offer a very nice EM-1 - if I needed a big locomotive, it would be my first choice, even though I don't model the B&O.
Wayne
I think he was talking in the real world Wayne. Only two known "modern" B&O Steam engines still exsist. the 4500 a Q3 USRA Mikado and 5300 "President Washington" P7 4-6-2. Most of the rest of B&O steam still in exsistance is 1800's stuff.
That's right, I was talking about the real world.
Actually, there is a third "modern" engine--an 0-6-0 originally built for Buffalo, Rocherster and Pittsburgh:
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bo390s.jpg
This locomotive was recently purchased by the Age of Steam roundhouse museum in Ohio, and is under restoration or is go there eventually. It does need a bit of work.
http://www.rypn.org/forums/download/file.php?id=8500
http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=37430&p=225248
And of course, Jonathan's work reminds us of how the B&O may have been among the most beloved of railroads, with its history, colorful yet restrained paint, interesting power, scenery, and all the rest.
Excellent work Jonathan. I'm jealous.
Cheers
Roger T.
Jonathan
Did in fact notice you had painted the inside of the cab,care to elaborate? This is an important point for me when painting engines were you able to use your air brush or did you have to brush paint it.
Never had t he luck to have an engine with a removable cab roof. Lol
Thanks, again!
GN, I used a small paint brush, painting acrylic leaf green paint. Normally I use enamel paint on locos and cars, but this could be washed off if I touched something not supposed to be green. It took three coats to completely cover the black enamel.
Of course I discovered AFTER I painted the loco that the cab was removable! There are two tiny, tiny screws hidden behind the piping, under the cab. Razafrazz.
Regards,
Jonathan
Addendum: there is window glazing, too--just hard to see.
OK, found the derailing problems. Self-reminder #1, even if it's brass, always check the wheels for proper gage:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0168_zpsulgn2eve.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0168_zpsulgn2eve.jpg.html)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0169_zpsib3fx0vo.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0169_zpsib3fx0vo.jpg.html)
I was able to press the offending wheel into gage with a gear/wheel press tool.
Reminder #2: attention to detail is everything! I didn't notice during assembly that my drawbar was not perpendicular:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0170_zpspasukbkm.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0170_zpspasukbkm.jpg.html)
Unfortunately, this means opening up the loco after everything is done. Discovered I got a little overzealous with the solder when installing new wire:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0172_zps3zj356mt.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0172_zps3zj356mt.jpg.html)
A little work with a needle file cleared up the problem:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0176_zps3qkj3jfq.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0176_zps3qkj3jfq.jpg.html)
Nice and straight:
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Projects/DSC_0177_zps4rke5hng.jpg) (http://s642.photobucket.com/user/jsnvogel/media/Projects/DSC_0177_zps4rke5hng.jpg.html)
Now the locomotive runs just fine, right down to 22" radius... surprising.
Now it's time to clean tracks and wheels for some serious tractor-pull fun. I'm terrible with a video camera, but give me a few days... we'll see what we can do. :)
Regards,
Jonathan
Yes Jon,
I noticed the green paint.
Herr Doktor,
You can't get away with that. Please provide details for the use of rare earth magnets.
Thanks.
Will the motor work with dcc or do you run on dc
Jonathan;
Did see right? It looks as though you might have run optic fibre to the classification lamps. Did you? I have toyed with that idea-and it is doable. A while back, I found me a whole slough of the white marker jewels.
Rich C.
No fiber optics. Occasionally, the light hits the jewels just right in a photograph, giving them that luminescent look. It's great to see the jewels wink as the locomotive rolls down the track.
As a follow-up, I have taken many videos with my digital camera. ALL have turned out terrible, mostly to due an inability to focus on the moving train. The camera wants to focus on anything but the train. Drivin' me nuts.
Regards,
Jonathan
Jonathan;
I also have a digital camera, and I have a couple of Canon SRLs as well. For layout photography, I will go back to the Canons, as they can be stopped right down to nothing! Out-moded? Well maybe. depends what you would be after. As said, I occasionally toy around with fibre optics. I think I will give class, lamp business a yank sometime this winter, during hibernation...
Rich c.
Film based cameras may be of an old technology but I think they are better for some purposes than digital . The charged couple screens of most digital cameras are smaller than the size of 35mm film screens (24mm x 36mm ) because of the inability to make larger screens as perfect as necessary for reasonable costs.
Also having self focusing lens adds more complexity to the process . It must be said that I am biased because I own , Olympus , Minolta , and Nikon SLRs and had a full color darkroom in Chicago which I miss terribly . But do admit that digital is convenient , my camera chip memory hold the equivalent of 2400 photos.
Though it requires a really good printer to get a decent print , and forget about anything bigger than 8 x 10 inch enlargement . That's my story & I'm sticking to it. John2.
J;
How many pixels is yours rated for? The idea of making bigger repros is a hard proposition at best. You say you had a complete developing facilities in Chi, so why not bring it with you? I believe, if I were into photography to the degree you are, I would have stuck to that stuff like white on rice!
Rich C.
I too loved using film, I all but missed it though, having only owned one film camera (my first one) before having to move to digital. That said, you can still get some pretty good photos on even the most basic of digital cameras. I cannot afford a SLR so I have a more simple camera, here are a few photos I've taken though. Light and focus are always tricky.
(http://i.imgur.com/3JROGNz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WmfGDxI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yuhvtnM.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/aQjNEB1.jpg)
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E.W.K. : Actually I have three digital cameras a 3 Megapixel Vivitar , a 14 megapixel GE , and a 14 Megapixel Fuji with a zoom lens . They are not DSLR s but work alright . Regarding the developing equipment , I brought everything but the dark room itself . In Chicago I could dump all the waste down the sewer and let Metropolitan Sanitation worry about it . Out here in the hinterland , I live outside of Town on "Duh Farm " and have a septic system . Silver based photo waste is an anti-bacterial and would destroy the bacteria that processes the waste . So I would have to figure out how depose of the chemicals and all of the rinse water as well . That and the fact that I am paranoid about having film lost is why I don't like to send out film for processing . I usually printed 8 x 10 inch and did some 11 x 14 inch from time to time . Also took all of the lights , umbrellas and rest of the stuff with me , could set up as studio if necessary .
I read somewhere that 400 ASA film had an equivalent pixel count of approximately 20 Mega pixels in 35mm. format with finer films being higher . I suspect that I am eventually going to have to break down and pop for another computer and a photo-grade printer , I already have a slide , film and photo converter to translate the original to digital ,but Lord that is going to take a good deal of time.
Quote from: Irbricksceo on August 01, 2015, 12:20:44 PM
I too loved using film, I all but missed it though, having only owned one film camera (my first one) before having to move to digital. That said, you can still get some pretty good photos on even the most basic of digital cameras. I cannot afford a SLR so I have a more simple camera, here are a few photos I've taken though. Light and focus are always tricky.
(http://i.imgur.com/3JROGNz.jpg)
All very nice photos BTW. :)
However, the above photo must be in an amusement park, or something like that and not a railway museum. A railroad museum's staff would, we hope, know green flags indicate there's at least one section of the train following. :)
Cheers
Roger T.
Quote from: rogertra on August 01, 2015, 04:54:07 PM
Quote from: Irbricksceo on August 01, 2015, 12:20:44 PM
I too loved using film, I all but missed it though, having only owned one film camera (my first one) before having to move to digital. That said, you can still get some pretty good photos on even the most basic of digital cameras. I cannot afford a SLR so I have a more simple camera, here are a few photos I've taken though. Light and focus are always tricky.
(http://i.imgur.com/3JROGNz.jpg)
All very nice photos BTW. :)
However, the above photo must be in an amusement park, or something like that and not a railway museum. A railroad museum's staff would, we hope, know green flags indicate there's at least one section of the train following. :)
Cheers
Roger T.
Judging by the coaches, and the paint scheme, I'd say thats from one of the Disney Parks. Only place i know that uses those coaches.
It is the Disney train. I've ridden and photographed it myself. Plus, one can read "Disney world" on the coach roof, if you blow up the photo.
Regards
Jonathan
Quote from: jonathan on August 01, 2015, 05:29:42 PM
It is the Disney train. I've ridden and photographed it myself. Plus, one can read "Disney world" on the coach roof, if you blow up the photo.
Regards
Jonathan
Thanks. Photo will not "blow up" and it's not linked to a photo site either.
Guess it's people playing trains, in this case, real trains. :)
Cheers
Roger T.
Yeah, I may be wrong but as I recall, each of their three Locomotives had a different color flag, rather than using the flags for their true purpose. As for that little tank Locomotive, I was actually in the cab for their little ride around the museum. The staff was quite surprised when I proved i knew the what they started talking about, the whole "this is the throttle it does this, these guages show water level, this is the brake, ect." And we had an interesting discussion instead of the usual tour. My only regret is that I was too shy to take them up on the offer to blow the whistle!
Quote from: rogertra on August 01, 2015, 05:33:12 PM
Photo will not "blow up"...
Roger T.
Put the mouse pointer over the picture. Then hold "CTRL" button while moving the mouse's roller wheel. One direction makes the pic smaller the other direction makes it larger. To "RESET" back to normal size, look in upper right corner of the screen while performing the aforementioned and you will see a box you can click "Reset to Default".
Too bad they don't have DISNEY in CANADA, I'd pay for your train ride ;D
Hey Brick, as a younger kid, ever go to Turtle Back Zoo?
Quote from: jbrock27 on August 01, 2015, 07:33:22 PM
Quote from: rogertra on August 01, 2015, 05:33:12 PM
Photo will not "blow up"...
Roger T.
Put the mouse pointer over the picture. Then hold "CTRL" button while moving the mouse's roller wheel. One direction makes the pic smaller the other direction makes it larger. To "RESET" back to normal size, look in upper right corner of the screen while performing the aforementioned and you will see a box you can click "Reset to Default".
Too bad they don't have DISNEY in CANADA, I'd pay for your train ride ;D
I never knew that scrolling method and I've had a computer since the 1980s. D'oh.
Thanks for the Disney offer but I've spent many, many, many, hours operating both steam and diesel locos. ;D
Cheers
Roger T.
Quote from: rogertra on August 01, 2015, 07:40:38 PM
I never knew that scrolling method and I've had a computer since the 1980s. D'oh.
No problem, you're welcome. I remember it was
Doc taught me that trick.
Quote from: rogertra on August 01, 2015, 07:40:38 PM
...I've spent many, many, many, hours operating both steam and diesel locos.
I know, I've read it many times over. I don't think you understand the reason for my offer, but you are welcome anywho ;D
The image hosting site is imgur, I didn't know that it didn't link back (I only rec ently started using it since it is faster).
The name turtle back rings a bell but I do not think i ever visited. I know I went to van song park several times, but I cannot recall visiting turtle back. its possible though!
I carry around a Sony 10 mp digital "pocket camera" in the car for those times when opportunity pops up. I also have a Nikon DSLR which I prefer to use for "serious" photo work. My biggest gripe with the small digitals is that in bright sun you often can't see the back screen well and have trouble framing the photo. There used to be some of those cameras that also had a rangefinder which was useful in those situations. My next acquisition is going to be one of those neat little digital video cameras to replace video tape camera.
Quote from: ebtnut on August 03, 2015, 03:47:18 PM
I carry around a Sony 10 mp digital "pocket camera" in the car for those times when opportunity pops up. I also have a Nikon DSLR which I prefer to use for "serious" photo work. My biggest gripe with the small digitals is that in bright sun you often can't see the back screen well and have trouble framing the photo. There used to be some of those cameras that also had a rangefinder which was useful in those situations. My next acquisition is going to be one of those neat little digital video cameras to replace video tape camera.
I do miss range finders.
Somehow we got derailed on this thread. ;D
As promised, here is a video of my rebuilt locomotive. Also, as promised, I am a terrible cinematographer... especially when it comes to focus.
I intentionally did not add a soundtrack, so you could hear the quietness of the locomotive.
It's about 3 minutes.
All of the rolling stock are craftsman kit pieces, save two scratch-built M-27f boxcars.
Hope you find it mildly entertaining, if not frustrating from the fuzziness.
Regards,
Jonathan
https://youtu.be/STzGpuh26As
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STzGpuh26As&feature=youtu.be
Addendum: The jerkiness at the end of the first scene was somehow translated into the video during upload. It's not the loco. ;)