To convert a DCC train to DC where can I buy a jumper
What locomotive do you have?
A 2-6-0 Sound value unit 409 Thanks
A Bachmann locomotive
Are you adept at soldering?
I can solder although I do have trouble with fine circuit board soldering
Reason I asked, since it looks by what you said, that you would have to buy a jumper, is to simply remove the chip from the loco and solder the wires on the same side of the loco that come from the trucks together, the same with the other side of the loco and solder one set of truck wires to one contact on the motor and the other set of wires to the other contact on the motor. Before hand, just make sure of which wires you are going to solder where on the motor, so the loco runs in the same direction as your others. Otherwise, it will run in the opposite direction. Color of the wire is not always a good indicator, better to trace to be sure where wires come from and where going to.
I hope this helps. ;)
OK thank you as I appreciate the advice, I was under the impression that with all DCC locomotives if you remove the connector for the chip and insert what I was told was a jumper that it would change the unit from DCC to DC. Thanks again
You're welcome.
That is one way to do it, if you plan on bouncing the loco back and forth from DCC to DC. My way is another way. Don't know your long term plans for the loco.
Was I correct in my understanding that you were looking to have to buy a connector and/or plug to be able to get it to run DC?
Yes that was my understanding to change any unit from DCC to DC was to purchase a jumper, (this may not be the right terminology ), it appears I was wrong . Thanks for the assist
No, not wrong. That is just one way to do it. Your future plans for the loco should dictate how you go about getting it to run on DC.
Is your loco missing the plug? Still looking to ascertain that.
Yes, when received the loco last year for Christmas it was not included and at the time I was not worried about it. Now that I need to change the loc to DC I was hoping I could buy the connector . I did call Bachmann parts but they transferred me to service and it just went to voice mail
Hmmm, sounds like it was bought and given to you 2nd hand then. That sound right?
Sorry I can't help with where to look, aside from EBay or elsewhere online for the plug you are looking for my friend. I do DC not DCC.
Best of luck.
The loco was purchased at a hobby store and it was new, thanks for your help thou, appreciate your time
Why not got back to them then and say "hey, what's the deal, this is new and is missing components?!"
Good idea, Thanks
If it has a separate decoder with an 8 pin connecter on it you can make your own jumper. Buy one of these: http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Train-Control-Systems-1255-CBU-8PIN-PLUG-CIRCUIT-B-p/tcs-1255.htm you'll need to figure out which pins to connect. Joe
jbrock27, the HO Soundvalue 2-6-0 does not include a jumper plug. The only way to convert it to DC would also of course take away the sound. If I recall correctly the decoder is built into the board for this locomotive and using a jumper plug is not possible even if you had one without doing some soldering which would defeat the purpose.
Thanks for the clarity , it seems to be making sense now
Would a DCC loco run correctly on a separate 15' line with a DC auto reverser ?
Quote from: ACY on December 09, 2015, 03:29:39 PM
jbrock27, the HO Soundvalue 2-6-0 does not include a jumper plug.
Thanks for the info
ACY but then again, it's not
my responsibility to know if it comes with one or not.
Quote from: ACY on December 09, 2015, 03:29:39 PM
The only way to convert it to DC would also of course take away the sound. If I recall correctly the decoder is built into the board for this locomotive and using a jumper plug is not possible even if you had one without doing some soldering which would defeat the purpose.
So given that, wouldn't that mean in answer to
R1's original question about converting it to DC, that he would have to remove the chip and solder the wires to the motor as I initially suggested?
Quote from: jbrock27 on December 09, 2015, 07:32:39 PM
So given that, wouldn't that mean in answer to R1's original question about converting it to DC, that he would have to remove the chip and solder the wires to the motor as I initially suggested?
Well in this case it would be ill-advised to convert the locomotive to DCC because then there would be no sound, the main advantage to buying this model is the Soundvalue decoder. But if you were dead set on converting it to analog DC then that would be the way to do it.
Quote from: ACY on December 11, 2015, 01:49:12 PM
...if you were dead set on converting it to analog DC then that would be the way to do it.
Thank you :)
Quote from: ACY on December 11, 2015, 01:49:12 PM
...it would be ill-advised to convert the locomotive to DCC because then there would be no sound
In your estimation, it would. But this is why I had said this, 2 days ago...
Quote from: jbrock27 on December 09, 2015, 01:06:20 PM
Your future plans for the loco should dictate how you go about getting it to run on DC.
...that is a choice and decision, that is up to
R1 to make for himself, now that he has the info ;)
Thank you all for the support
Anytime my man! Good luck :)
I just bought a 4-4-0 DCC. I noticed it needs more power to start moving. Someone here suggested unplugging the decoder and installing a jumper. When I looked up the manual for this it said to remove the decoder and install a dummy and two 3 prong jumpers. Help, I am confused.
See the reply above from bapguy, with a link to the part you need to make the jumper.
Quote from: jlc41 on January 04, 2016, 04:38:43 PM
I just bought a 4-4-0 DCC. I noticed it needs more power to start moving. Someone here suggested unplugging the decoder and installing a jumper. When I looked up the manual for this it said to remove the decoder and install a dummy and two 3 prong jumpers. Help, I am confused.
TomC, thanks for the infoe, I,ll let you folks know how I make out.
Glad to help... and, if you are handy then you can probably make a set of jumpers without using the plug linked above. Just using some solid copper wire and a little solder should do it up fine.... If you feel up to it. :)
Why not remove all the DCC gubbins and wire it normally? One wire to one brush and the other one to t'other side. Job done.
Quote from: Catweasel on January 09, 2016, 06:38:41 PM
Why not remove all the DCC gubbins and wire it normally? One wire to one brush and the other one to t'other side. Job done.
A terrific idea...
Quote from: jbrock27 on December 09, 2015, 12:36:48 PM
...simply remove the chip from the loco and solder the wires on the same side of the loco that come from the trucks together, the same with the other side of the loco and solder one set of truck wires to one contact on the motor and the other set of wires to the other contact on the motor.
Well i finely got around to converting my loco to DC. As mentioned, I removed the decoder and used the plugs supplied with the unit. Of course being a newbie my loco would not run. So I put the decoder back in still wouldn't run. I tried to pay attention to how everything was assembled before taking the tender apart I inadvertently turned one of the trucks around when I put it back together. I posted my problem and thanks to all who responded, in particular Balto who suggested I may have turned a truck around. I call to Bachmann who confirmed the trucks are insulated, and the trucks must be on opposite to each other that fixed the problem. This is a learning experience.
So by increasing the amount of track contact via the tender wheels to the motor of the loco you are maintaining power to the motor???
Wayne, thanks for the explanation and pics. Nice work.
Joe