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Title: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: InsideTrack on December 09, 2015, 03:48:16 PM
A limited number of Skarloey engines have arrived at your favorite dealers and in our web store, just in time for Christmas. http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=258_259_972&products_id=5898

We hope he makes your holidays extra merry.

Bachmann Trains


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 09, 2015, 03:52:32 PM
This good news, after the picture if him being released today. Skarloey seems to be too expensive, that is the only issue I have with him. As for the Locomotive, he is perfect with everything!


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Thomasfan39 on December 09, 2015, 03:57:32 PM
A limited number of Skarloey engines have arrived at your favorite dealers and in our web store, just in time for Christmas. http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=258_259_972&products_id=5898

We hope he makes your holidays extra merry.

Bachmann Trains
How many?


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Chaz on December 09, 2015, 04:01:43 PM
Wow much earlier than what I found out yesterday!  This is great news.  Hoping my shop will have him soon.


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Cheeky_ULP on December 09, 2015, 04:18:24 PM
Fingers crossed he makes it to Hobbylinc and then here in time for Christmas!


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Chaz on December 15, 2015, 02:53:36 PM
He is in Hobbylinc now and he will be shipping to my area on Friday!


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Griffin (TheBlueSnowplow) on December 15, 2015, 06:15:28 PM
This is so exciting!! He looks great! Now, Oliver... ;)
Sorry for asking such a dumb question, but is Skarloey really N scale? I've seen him advertised in a few different ways (HOn, etc.) but never N scale directly. Does he run on N scale track? Is he scaled to Bachmann Thomas so that it looks accurate to the show/real life?


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Chaz on December 15, 2015, 06:28:20 PM
Skarloey is an HOn30 model, or otherwise known as HOe or OO9.  He can run on N scale track but if you want something more accurate Peco makes a more suitable track for HOn30.  Size wise they really got it down compared to a regular Bachmann Thomas, as shown in one of my pictures from NMRA.   



Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Griffin (TheBlueSnowplow) on December 15, 2015, 06:34:42 PM
Skarloey is an HOn30 model, or otherwise known as HOe or OO9.  He can run on N scale track but if you want something more accurate Peco makes a more suitable track for HOn30.  Size wise they really got it down compared to a regular Bachmann Thomas, as shown in one of my pictures from NMRA.   



I feel so stupid but I am still confused...why call it HOn30 instead of N scale? Are they very different?


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Flare on December 15, 2015, 06:49:20 PM
HOn30 is HO scale equipment running on N gauge track.

Track made specifically for HOn30 has larger ties spaced further apart than N scale track to look more realistic.


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 15, 2015, 07:02:05 PM
HOn30 is HO scale equipment running on N gauge track.

Track made specifically for HOn30 has larger ties spaced further apart than N scale track to look more realistic.

I do believe that the Bachmann Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge Locomotives and Rolling Stock will be smaller in height and width than we all think to fit on the HOn30 track, so as Bachmann states with the information in this new range, N Gauge track is going to be needed and the most suitable size looking track for this range.


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Chaz on December 15, 2015, 07:29:00 PM
HOn30 track is the same size as N scale track, the only difference as Flare pointed out is the spacing and size in the ties on the tracks.  The reason why Bachmann says that they are "HO models that run on N scale track" is because this seems easier for the general public to become more familiar with since sadly not as many people are familiar with HOn30.  Plus N scale track is a lot more cheap and easier for Bachmann to provide to fans who want to start their own narrow gauge line.


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Griffin (TheBlueSnowplow) on December 15, 2015, 07:32:17 PM
HOn30 track is the same size as N scale track, the only difference as Flare pointed out is the spacing and size in the ties on the tracks.  The reason why Bachmann says that they are "HO models that run on N scale track" is because this seems easier for the general public to become more familiar with since sadly not as many people are familiar with HOn30.  Plus N scale track is a lot more cheap and easier for Bachmann to provide to fans who want to start their own narrow gauge line.
The whole "HO on N scale" really freaked me out when they were announced to be honest. I thought they were like the large-scale models used in the TV Series-- not truly "narrow gauge" as it were. Luckily I was quite a bit off the mark.  ;)


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 15, 2015, 07:48:32 PM
HOn30 track is the same size as N scale track, the only difference as Flare pointed out is the spacing and size in the ties on the tracks.  The reason why Bachmann says that they are "HO models that run on N scale track" is because this seems easier for the general public to become more familiar with since sadly not as many people are familiar with HOn30.  Plus N scale track is a lot more cheap and easier for Bachmann to provide to fans who want to start their own narrow gauge line.
The whole "HO on N scale" really freaked me out when they were announced to be honest. I thought they were like the large-scale models used in the TV Series-- not truly "narrow gauge" as it were. Luckily I was quite a bit off the mark.  ;)

I would be un-happy if there where released as Large Gauge products, because then they would bigger than the HO range, which would be silly and pointless getting them.


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: uscgtanker on December 21, 2015, 10:31:11 PM
lets clear up the scale difference a little more.
Hon30 is American 30" narrow gauge and really close to 2' narrow gauge.
In England OO is there scale for standard and OO9 is the OO scale on 9mm track. 2' narrow gauge in england is most seen in wales, the best know are the Talyllyn, Ffestiniog, The Vale of Rheidol, The Snowdon mountain and the Welsh Highland railways. Australia has there own little narrow gauge line called the Puffing Billy, you can find 2' narrow gauge lines all over the world based upon the the welsh slate lines. Maine had there own share of 2' lines the Sandy River & Rangeley Lakes.

But in HO or OO scales the difference is so small between track gauges that it would be incredibly hard to replicate. There is another type of narrow gauge called HOn3 for 3' gauge. The lines that this would be based off are the Rio Grand, Colorado & Southern, White pass and Yukon and the East Broad Top. This scale has it's own size track that is smaller the HO but larger then N.

Whats nice with this scale it allows you to have a small N scale RR with HO scenery that you can see the details, and not take up so much space that ether you don't have or your wife won't let you take up.


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Chaz on December 23, 2015, 02:41:30 AM
I'm very familiar with the narrow gauge railroad in Maine, I remember taking a look at one of the engines when I was a kid and I was allowed to take a look inside the cab too.  Beautiful engine.  If there were to be a model of this made anytime soon I would definitely pick one up.  I'm also familar with HOn3 as well and it seems to be a common misconception amongst most Thomas fans that Skarloey will be HOn3, when really he is HOn30.  For some reason it's listed as HOn3 in the Thomas Wikia too.  

I also agree that it is great that modeling in HOn30 really doesn't take as much space, it's what will really make modeling with Skarloey a lot of fun once I start getting more invested in narrow gauge modeling.  


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: BassTbone on December 23, 2015, 10:32:33 AM
The good thing about HOn30 / OO9 is the fact is fits in a small space.  I am building a 3' x 5' layout thats pretty moderately sized for a OO9 layout.  You could EASILY go and buy a 2' x 4' sheet of wood from your DIY store and build a decent OO9 / HOn30 layout on it.  Thats the beauty of it.   ;D

Really happy with Skarloey Bachmann.  Fantastic model with superb detail. 

I look forward to future releases of this amazing quality.  Thank you for answering our requests. 


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: uscgtanker on December 24, 2015, 10:54:35 AM
HOn30 is a great little hobby but i can easily understand were the scale misconception comes out. I have been modeling Hon30 for several years off and on and finally building my first actual layout. Being a part of a modular railroad club I'm building my narrow gauge line on portable sections. I have a good part of the line planed out with the first town being loosely based of TYWYN wharf station. On the narrow gauge I intend to place the great deviation from the Ffestioniog, a slate quarry, sheep pastor and loading dock, parts from the puffing billy railway and three station stops for passenger service.

Bachmann has done a really nice job of supplying us with the skarloey models. I can understand bringing the price down for the rolling stock but not the engine. For having such a small frame that needs precis work to make the model work very well is worth the price. Also the only way bachmann can keep going with skarloey is we buy there product, that would give them more insensitive to build more.


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: BassTbone on December 24, 2015, 12:07:04 PM
Bachmann Skarloey is proving to be popular:

http://srmg.org.uk/news-blog/2015/12/23/review-bachmann-skarloey


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Titanic5972 on December 24, 2015, 12:33:12 PM
Can only be good news that Skarloey is proving popular. Plenty more Natrow Gauge locos to be added. I think that not having the eye mechanism is actually a good thing. Anyone using the Hornby models and wanting the narrow gauge loco won't have one odd loco with "live" eyes among a whole range of non live eyes.


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 24, 2015, 01:18:38 PM
Can only be good news that Skarloey is proving popular. Plenty more Natrow Gauge locos to be added. I think that not having the eye mechanism is actually a good thing. Anyone using the Hornby models and wanting the narrow gauge loco won't have one odd loco with "live" eyes among a whole range of non live eyes.

I knew the Narrow Gauge range would be popular after it's announcement earlier this year. I am definitely getting Skarloey and the three Wagon's.


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Chaz on December 25, 2015, 12:34:20 AM
Well, my family decided to let us each open one Christmas present early on Christmas Eve… Do I even need to tell you which one I picked?

(http://puu.sh/m7OcD/5273a70bbf.jpg)

Needless to say, I am extremely happy that this is my first narrow gauge engine in my collection!  I will post more pictures as well as my thoughts after Christmas.   In the meantime I would like to wish everybody on the Bachmann Trains forum a Merry Christmas and I look forward to hearing more about what others have to say about this model!


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Jacob Wilson on December 25, 2015, 05:44:07 AM
^ @Chaz: Looks like you picked Skarloey. Please post more pictures of him and his Wagons as well when you get a chance. I haven't seen any decent pictures of the Wagons yet, of what they actually look like.


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Chris333 on December 29, 2015, 08:22:06 AM
It would be great if Bachmann would get into HOn30. The Skarley chassis would be a great start for this real 30" locomotive:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3zp8ZMb0piQ/VnxsVOptEZI/AAAAAAAAOkI/bmZ6FquPBKM/s800-Ic42/Laura.jpg)

And it wouldn't be that far off to make a 0-4-4 Maine Forney like WW&F 9 that was just brought back into service and was owned by 3 different railroad, with 3 different paint/lettering schemes. 

Just sayin'


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Bob S on December 30, 2015, 10:10:44 AM
Chris33 said:

"It would be great if Bachmann would get into HOn30. The Skarloey chassis would be a great start for this real 30" locomotive:


And it wouldn't be that far off to make a 0-4-4 Maine Forney like WW&F 9 that was just brought back into service and was owned by 3 different railroad, with 3 different paint/lettering schemes. 

Just sayin'"

Yeah, verily!   

Out of the box, it won't pull much because the longitudinal center of gravity (LCG) is too far aft.  This won't make a whit of difference to those who expect the engine in Skarloey garb to pull only a few short wagons, but for scale conversions, it would need to pull a realistic train of scale length cars.  I balanced mine so that the LCG is between the two driver axles, and balanced as such, it will pull the paint off the bulkhead.  This is going to be a VERY useful mechanism for HOn30 modelers.

Respectfully,
Bob S.
 

 
 
 


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Chris333 on April 22, 2016, 02:07:36 AM
So I took the drawings of the locomotive I posted about and drew artwork to have parts etched in brass. This is what I've got so far:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vuIxYaM89QM/VxlP7GH-rwI/AAAAAAAAPbk/oQWqiKuwrwU8o3tDdhL7CfYlM3liTWZOACCo/s800/20160421_175634.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IKCFgtFWjoc/VxlP8vzQmTI/AAAAAAAAPbk/yvt4_wejrdA_Z3So_9sa18ipJQogHlo5wCCo/s800/20160421_175819.jpg)

That is the Bachmann Skarloey chassis under all that.

This locomotive would be a hit in Hon30 or On30. Just sayin'.


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: the Bach-man on April 22, 2016, 11:02:53 PM
Chris!
That is outstanding!
the Bach-man


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Earl Ghylldale on April 24, 2016, 12:16:56 PM
Hello Fellow NG Modellers.

Chris, what an excellent “Forney” you have produced using the “Skarloey” chassis.  Although I am not personally interested in North American NG or short lines, I can only admire your skill in drawing up the etches for your chosen model.  There will be hordes of NG enthusiasts in the UK who will be envious of your efforts.
“Skarloey” can be converted into its real-life prototype, “Talyllyn” and a kit of 3D printing and brass etches are available from www.narrowplanet.co.uk  to make the cylinders and motion more authentic.

Bachmann Europe does not have the licence for Thomas & Friends in Europe, so the narrow gauge stock cannot be sold commercially in the UK.  My “Skarloey” was send by a long-suffering sister-in-law from California. I hope this will extend to “Rhineas” should Bachmann decide to produce a model!

Finally, the scale gauge conundrum.  At exhibitions, I have a little display board with 009, N gauge and 00/H0 standard gauge track,  together with standard gauge locomotives in 00 and N gauge and one in 009.  This helps to explain how N gauge and 009 gauge engines will run on the same track,  but are not the same scale, whereas, despite the size difference 00 and 009 engines are the same scale but not the same gauge!! Sorry I cannot send a picture "the uploader file is full" I will try to send it separately


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Duke on April 24, 2016, 05:02:31 PM
Bachmann Europe does not have the licence for Thomas & Friends in Europe, so the narrow gauge stock cannot be sold commercially in the UK.  My “Skarloey” was send by a long-suffering sister-in-law from California. I hope this will extend to “Rhineas” should Bachmann decide to produce a model!

Bachmann has announced they are going to produce Rheneas  ;)


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Earl Ghylldale on May 14, 2016, 03:07:15 PM
Hello Chaps

Any news of "Rheneas" yet?  I'm banking on him being released whilst I am visiting the Californian relatives!


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Chaz on May 14, 2016, 03:16:40 PM
Every site I have seen listing Rheneas usually expects him by around December so probably around Christmastime, just like Skarloey last year.


Title: Re: SKARLOEY IS IN STOCK
Post by: Crazy Thomas on May 29, 2016, 07:39:35 AM
I wanted to have Skarloey in my hands but it is very expensive to import to my country. :-[ :-[ :-[