Hi Thomas & Friends fans:
We hare delighted to announce the products below. These will be the ONLY new Thomas products announced until February 2017. Please watch our website for images and delivery info. We will not release this info in personal emails.
Enjoy!
HO Scale
58816 Rosie (with moving eyes)
77014 Sodor Salt Wagon
77015 Troublesome Truck #5
77016 GWR Cattle Wagon
77017 Refrigerator Car – Live Lobsters
Narrow Gauge
58602 Rheneas
77301 Narrow Gauge Slate Wagon with Load
77302 Narrow Gauge Slate Wagon with Load #101
77303 Narrow Gauge Slate Wagon with Load #164
Large Scale
91421 Thomas the Tank Engine with DCC Sound
91422 Percy the Small Engine with DCC Sound
32037 Large Scale Thomas & Friends™ DCC Sound Module
98016 Box Van – Sodor Fruit & Vegetable Co.
98017 Box Van – Explosives
98018 Box Van – Great Western
NOTE: No delivery dates yet for HO Oliver or Large Scale Winston and Ice Cream Wagon.
All I am going to say is thank goodness that there is a narrow gauge range. Rheneas I welcome with loving arms and I am interested to see how the slate cars turn out.
The rest of this years announcements fall completely flat for me. The fact that Rosie of all characters was picked before Daisy or even Paxton is quite a joke. Large scales announcements were pretty bad too, can't believe there is still no Henrietta. Hopefully the rolling stock will be decent, a GWR cattle wagon in particular sounds pretty cool.
Apart from narrow gauge and maybe some of the HO stock, I think my wallet will be left unharmed this year, sadly.
HO: So another salt wagon and cattle wagon, like repaints of the first? Cool! :) Can't wait to see Troublesome Truck #5, and I would say Rosie was a bit of a surprise, but I know Bachmann will do great things for her. Also, what would the refrigerator car look like?
Narrow Gauge: How'd I guess Rheneas was next? Good choice, though, and it's cool to see the slate cars as rolling stock (they've always been my favorite Skarloey Railway rolling stock for some reason)
Large Scale: I think DCC sound for Thomas and Percy is great! After all, I'd assume their large bodies would enable more room for sound chips and the like.
All in all, looking forward to seeing these products :)
Fantastic to see Rheneas and slate wagons added to the narrow gauge range. Bit disappointed that such a minor character has been produced for the HO range, however the wagons, especially the TT#5, will be a great addition. Large scale has no meaning for me so I won't comment on that one. I think I am definitely going to have to expand into a narrow gauge railway now.
Yes, I guessed right about Rosie, Rheneas and Troublesome Truck #5! I am looking forward to getting these. I am also looking forward to getting the Sodor Salt Wagon, GWR Cattle Wagon and the Refrigerator Car with Live Lobsters. I dread to think what these three items are! What on earth is a Refrigerator Car! Not sure if I will be getting that one!
I am really happy that Rosie getting released though! I am smiling all other my teeth and face! :) :D ;D
I was hoping for a little bit more interesting Wagon's in the Narrow Gauge range, but 3 Slate Trucks that are different is alright.
I am a bit disappointed there are no Coaches or Brake Van's on the way to the Narrow Gauge range. A Brake Van is needed with all these Trucks and Van's in the range and being added! :(
To sum up though, I plan on getting (Quantises will be in brackets):
HO Scale:
58816 Rosie (With Moving Eyes) (x1)
77014 Sodor Salt Wagon (x3)
77015 Troublesome Truck #5 (x1)
77016 GWR Cattle Wagon (x3)
77017 Refrigerator Car – Live Lobsters (x3)
Narrow Gauge:
58602 Narrow Gauge Rheneas (x1)
77301 Narrow Gauge Slate Wagon with Load (x3)
77302 Narrow Gauge Slate Wagon with Load #101 (x3)
77303 Narrow Gauge Slate Wagon with Load #164 (x3)
I be getting Rosie, tt 5, lobster vans and gwr cattle wagons, along with Rheneas and the slate wagons.
The HO rolling stock I do like the sound of, at least to add more variety.
Rheneas is probably the nicest new product announced, as well as the slate cars. Love those Skarloey railway cars.
Rosie....*sigh* I don't like her...at all really, so let's move on.
When will the new catalogue be up?
Woo hoo. Keep the narrow gauge coming because they are a hit. The 009 modellers group is excited about it!
I guess the GWR cattle truck is the proper one used in the TVS. Surprised Rosie made it onto the list, but it will definitely make fans happy.
Personally I am happy about the narrow gauge stuff! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Shawn on February 12, 2016, 05:19:26 PM
When will the new catalogue be up?
shortly. During or after the toy fair. Wait and see.
Well i think this year is looking good. Ironically large scale wise sounds the best with the new rolling stock which i hope they release on ho. I like the idea of sound Thomas and Percy. Rosie will be a good addition probably a back ground engine much like her role on the show. The new rolling stock sounds very good i believe the refrigeration car will be one of the white vans probably with a crate and maybe an opening door? Like the reintroducing of salt wagon. The tt5 will be interesting thinking will be cgi style. Great western cattle wagon. Not a clue. Much in the way i don't for the great western item in large scale. Rhenaes a great addition along with the slate wagons. They should be very interesting. Sad no building but... Thank you Bachmann
Well, I was right with a couple things, this years looks pretty good, but yet, still no Large Scale Henrietta. Ugh.
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #10 By mully: That is an interesting thought of what you think the Refrigerator Car will be. I have in mind it could be a Ventilated Van, with a lobster logo painted on the sides, but if it is this, wouldn't it be called a Ventilated Van? I must be wrong! Bachmann, please show us what a Refrigerator Car is.
Quiet frankly I have never even seen a Refrigerator Car on the TV Series before, so it must be made up! What it looks like I think depends whether I want it, or not!
More of my thoughts, and aimed at nobody in particular:
I guess the GWR Cattle Wagon is to join Duck, Oliver and Toad in the range, which is a nice touch.
I hope the Troublesome Truck #5 will be a Tanker!
I hope that the Sodor Salt Wagon will be identical to the previous release, but I am interested in why it is called a "Sodor Salt Wagon". Does mean it will be covered in some strange livery, with banners or something?
I am really excited for Rosie though. I cannot wait to get her! I am happy she is getting released, and I am happy are also getting Rheneas, but I knew he was coming, since Skarloey's announcement last year!
Well, at least I know what's been announced for this year. The announced range that I am most excited for this year is I would have to say is the Narrow Gauge range. I love the Narrow Gauge range. I'm glad Bachmann started the Narrow Gauge range. I like the HO scale range, but this year it's only okay for me. I'm not that excited for the HO scale range this year, but at least we are getting something. As for the large scale range, I've never really cared for the large scale range. I don't collect the large scale range. It's only a matter of time when this year's catalog is posted on this site. I'm going to have to say the catalog will be posted between tomorrow to as late as next Saturday I believe.
All I have to say to is thank you Bachmann!
Keep up the good work.
I'm excited abouth the HO scale wagons being announced, and super excited about the narrow gauge announcements. Hopefully next year we get Sir Handel and some coaches, maybe a set. I need to make an n gauge layout made soon.
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #14 By DucktheGWREngine08: Nice to have you back on the Forum, DucktheGWREngine08.
I agree with you! I am hoping and guessing that Sir Handel will be released next year, and we need Coaches and Brake Van's next year.
I suspect the lobster refrigerator wagon will likely look like the ice cream wagon with different graphics denoting lobsters. It could also be a repainted salt wagon, too. I would prefer it to be a newly tooled body with vertical planks and no visible external bracing, since a true refrigerator car would likely have insulation around the wall framing which would be covered by an additional layer of sheathing on the outside. In the USA, reefer doors are hinged rather than sliding, and are recessed flush into the sides. Also, both the doors and sides are quite thick due to their double sheathing and insulation. It should be interesting to see.
This brings to mind another question, if the current ice cream wagon isn't a refrigerator car, what keeps the ice cream from melting? Or, is it just used for shipping the empty ice cream cones to the ice cream factory?
Here in the USA, lobsters are frequently shipped live to better preserve freshness.
Bill in FtL
So Bachmann has finally decided to make an HO Rosie? Thank you Bachmann for answering my prayers! ;D
Another chapter for the NG range.
As for HO/OO, while my views on Rosie are......"average." It's quite the surprise , but slightly disappointed, I don't hate her, but when you compare her to some particular ones outside the classic era like Paxton, or even Hiro, they would of been a better choice than Rosie.
At least few of the classic characters are left anyway.
Rosie is..random :P but I'm sure with her pink paint she will sell quite well and it is a new tooling which is nice. I am so excited to see new rolling stock- finally! Not really chuffed by Rheneas (I mean, who else were you guys expecting?) or the slate wagons, as I am still trying to establish my HO/OO engines so not really interested in narrow gauge at all, especially since Bachmann hasn't given us folks who can't blow hundreds establishing a layout to run their trains on. I'm more excited for Rosie and the rolling stock, very honestly. Sorry if you don't agree, but it's not what we were expecting and I really like that. Narrow Gauge is much too predictable, for the time being, in my opinion. Ooh, and what the heck, Bachmann? You've had a year for Oliver and still nothing on when he is going to ship? :-\ I can keep waiting, I guess.
Seriously?! Rosie?! Stepney was obviously the better choice!
Well i am going to guess Oliver maybe released between march-June time we might get some of the new rolling stock August time, probably ng rolling stock around November, rhenaes Christmas time, Rosie beginning of next year. Be nice if it is all out before the 2017 announcements. Always getting stuff from the previous year carried over. Wondering also which new items of rolling stock will be green ;D
What is wrong with Rosie? I like Rosie. She is a fun and energetic engine. She has been on my wanted list since she first arrived on Sodor in the TV Series.
All I hope is, that Bachmann get her pink livery correct and do fit her rosey cheeks and freckles onto her face in the right places!
^ Above 1 Reply - @#21 By mully: I hope none of the Wagon's in the HO range are green! We have had too many Green Wagon's over the year's. Troublesome Truck #3 and Troublesome Truck #4 are both green. I don't want another green Troublesome Truck! I am hoping that Troublesome Truck #5 will be a tanker, or one of James' New Trucks (A Blue Open Wagon with black edges with a face on one end).
I hope we don't have to wait to get Rosie until 2017, like we are having to wait for Oliver. I want Rosie now as soon as possible and I can't until the middle of 2017 to get her. That is just wrong and too long to wait! I hope she gets released before Christmas this year.
Now it is my turn to talk about the new release in the Large Scale range:
I think the release of a DCC Sound Thomas and Percy is a bit pointless with the expense of the Large Scale range, and the face that this is the third version of a Large Scale Thomas and the second version of a Large Scale Percy. I think Edward have been released, instead of Bachmann adding a DCC Sound system to the range, which as we know is at astronomical prices in the OO/HO range, so I dread to think what the prices will be of a Large Scale Thomas and Percy.
The Box Van's are nice idea, but sadly I do not buy Large Scale products due to space I do not have, so I cannot get the Sodor Fruit & Vegetable Co., Explosives and Great Western Box Van's. These would have been great additions to the HO range, and I am sad they are not being released in it. I would rather have these than the Refrigerator Car. I don't even know what a Refrigerator Car is! It sounds a like foreign vegetable to me (A link-in joke to Bachmann's new announcement of the the Large Scale Sodor Fruit & Vegetable Co. Box Van)! Besides, Live Lobsters is not even a prototypical Thomas & Friends load. I cannot remembers we seeing a Refrigerator Car the carries lobsters! A Live Lobsters load sounds like so,me thing Chuggington to me, not Thomas & Friends. Bachmann must have made it up, which is a shame, because I would love to have the three new Large Scale Box Van's to be in the HO/OO Gauge range.
Anyway, rant over!
Do you think that they will ever make henrietta being made in large scale?
Also, I cannot wait to get Rosie and rheneas! :)
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #23 By JLK2707: Bachmann should release a Large Scale Henrietta, but with how long ago now since they released the Large Scale Toby, they probably will not release Henrietta, which is odd. Maybe Bachmann cannot get the license to produce a Large Scale Henrietta or creating a new tooling for Henrietta might be too expensive in Large Scale. Who know's the reason? It could as basic as Bachmann could be thinking as selling point of view, that a Large Scale Henrietta might not be a good seller!
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #24 By JK2707: I cannot wait to get Rosie and Rheneas either, but my big super excitement release is Rosie this year. I know that Rheneas is the second Thomas & Friends Narrow Gauge Locomotive, but I think we all knew that he was coming this year, and Rosie having her announcement is a surprise to everybody, and I am really excited by it! ;D
Rosie's announcement is more a disappointment than anything. She is such a minor character compared to the likes of Daisy, Boco, Stepney etc. Like I said I am looking forward to the rolling stock but Rosie will never be on my purchase list.
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #26 By Tiranic5972: I think Rosie is little more then a minor character. She has appeared in more Episodes than you think. Check out her Thomas & Friends Wikia page: http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Rosie. Murdoch and Arthur are more minor characters, as they have hardly ever been shown. Rosie has been shown more than Murdoch and Arthur has, and she is a newer character than these two.
I believe that the lobster wagon will look similar too one of these http://thomas-and-friends-cgi-series.wikia.com/wiki/%22The_Flying_Kipper%22. Perfect for the kipper. Also i don't know why people are moaning about Rosie. Seen for years people asking for her. We should be a bit more grateful for what we have. Lastly i have a theory the standard cattle wagon my be discontinued this year to make room for the great western cattle wagon. I can't see Bachmann selling 3 types of cattle wagon.
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on February 13, 2016, 05:42:34 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #26 By Tiranic5972: I think Rosie is little more then a minor character. She has appeared in more Episodes than you think. Check out her Thomas & Friends Wikia page: http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Rosie. Murdoch and Arthur are more minor characters, as they have hardly ever been shown. Rosie has been shown more than Murdoch and Arthur has, and she is a newer character than these two.
Yes, you are correct, she has shown up more than those two, but no one's exactly calling Murdoch or Arthur main characters either, and looking through the list of episodes she appeared in, lot's of them are just cameos, so I'd barely call her a fleshed out character, it also doesn't help that in a lot of those episodes (notably her first appearance too), her personality is very "one note" and bland, I went over this about her and Stanley not all that long ago actually. However I do now find myself
eating my own words, something I really hate doing, guess like perhaps other members here I need to think more before I post.
Quote from: AJW98Productions on February 07, 2016, 12:38:10 AM
The obsession with these two characters, from my perspective is that the obsession can only created out of their unique designs and liveries, Stanley I guess had an interesting enough introduction (despite my personal thoughts on "The Great Discovery", I can't deny that it was interesting). Personally, I don't care about Rosie as a character, but I would like a model, so I guess the marketing team has struck again. But I recognise that as a model, she'll never be released by Bachmann for the foreseeable future, because [...] they [Rosie and Stanley] are just blank slates of characters with little to no personality, but endlessly marketable designs and unique liveries.
So there we have it, my thoughts on Rosie, are however, less negative than they may seem. She is very much a stock standard Season 9-16 character, as she has little to no personality, and should probably be more fleshed out, but is most interesting for the fact that she has a unique livery and interesting basis, one of the few reasons why I probably would get a model of her at some point if I could, so I recognise the marketing team has struck again!
Anyway, my thoughts on the actual range for this year:
Narrow Gauge:Rheneas really was a given, almost everyone called it, but I think next years engine may be a little more of a surprise, as people seem to have more mixed opinions on the next release, but I'm thinking Peter Sam might be next.
I'm glad to see the Slate Wagons, and I'm a little surprised that we're getting three variants of them (twins philosophy I guess), but I stand by the idea that I would've liked to see a brakevan this year, I probably would've rather had coaches as well, but I don't mind Slate Wagons in the slightest, I do hope next year we get some coaches and two brake vans (twins philosophy, one tooling but two colour variations, like with the Box Vans released last year), so as ever, this was what I was hoping for, but I am more than happy with what was released, maybe next year but I know it's too soon to start calling 2017 announcements, so I leave you with these images:
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/Model%20series%20brakevan%20brown_zpssob6oubr.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/Model%20series%20brakevan%20brown_zpssob6oubr.png.html)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/NG%20Coaches%20-%20Blue%20and%20White%20%20Duke_zpsm0j3ayfu.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/NG%20Coaches%20-%20Blue%20and%20White%20%20Duke_zpsm0j3ayfu.png.html)
HO Gauge:Rosie...well since I already ate my own words I won't dig the hole any deeper, I think there were smarter choices, definitely Engines I'd rather see, but I guess they could've done worse, and hey, since we only have two female engines in the HO range, I suppose a third is rather nice in that regard, and she is at least a unique design and has made more starring and background roles than most other characters that were made to sell merchandise, I know a lot of people are thinking "could've been better", but for now I'm going to just say "hey, could've been worse" and to me Rosie is at least a very...marketable character. Even with everything she's got going against her, she's got enough going for her to warrant a model apparently, so there's something I guess.
I'm glad to hear the Salt Van is making a comeback, I think I'll try and get my hands on a few more quick this time, as I only got one before it was discontinued previously, I'd like to say fan demand brought it back, but by that logic Gordon's Express Coaches should've returned a while ago, I've seen more demand for them since they've been discontinued, but I guess the Salt Van is cheaper to produce, so can be sold at lower prices, which I guess increases likelihood of sales.
I imagine the GWR Cattle Van is being released to compliment Duck, Oliver and Toad, I don't actually know if it'll be that different to the tooling that already exists, or if it'll be the same tooling with a "GW" label on it. Whatever the case may be, I look forward to seeing it.
Troublesome Truck #5, there is a lot of potential with the Troublesome Trucks, so I don't know what to expect. Another product I'm going to keep an eye out for.
Finally, the Refrigerator Van. I really think I'm repeating myself, but I don't entirely know what to expect the tooling to look like, if it'll have lobsters on it or whatnot, I suspect this could be something previously seen in the CGI series perhaps, in which case that could give us better indication of to what it would look like. Personally I recognise I've done a terrible job of keeping up with the CGI series, so I could be equally wrong.
Large Scale:I'm honestly surprised we're seeing DCC sound equipped Thomas and Percy in G Gauge before an analogue sound Percy is released in HO, I'm even more surprised that a chip is being sold separately as well, but since Large Scale is such a price-y (for lack of a better word) range, I imagine it has more mature modelers in it, so I guess that could be part of why.
What interests me is that Box Vans are being released into Large Scale before HO too, I look forward to seeing the final products, and hope they eventually migrate into HO scale, I would've thought they would be good sellers in HO too.
Unfortunately Henrietta is still not being announced, quite disappointing in all honesty, but hey! This just proves that the range is far from being discontinued, as I remember seeing speculation about last year, and considering there are again, more interesting releases this year, I'm honestly just happy the range isn't in a bad place, and I don't even collect it.
But moving on now, I think it's time for...
Final thoughts:This year's announcements, to me at least are far from disappointing. Am I surprised? Yes. Is that a bad thing? Not really. Honestly I'm just glad this year's range is as big as it is, I really didn't expect the range this year to be so large with Oliver and Winston still on the back-burner, perhaps a bit disappointing here and there, but ultimately there were a lot of people who didn't think we'd get as much as we did get this year, so I can hardly call it a disappointment at all. This year's range seems to be the most divisive I've seen yet, but ultimately, I'm looking forward to it...with great anticipation actually. I'm very curious to how things will turn out.
Ultimately, I'm glad to see this year was far from the year I expected in a few ways at least, I expected a much quieter year in all honesty. So overall, I'm happy enough, more to anticipate for later, I suppose, but plenty to look forward to in the meantime,
~Alex ;D
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #28 By mully: I didn't think the Refrigerator Car is going to be one those. What you are talking about is a Utility Wagon which is the same as the Red and Green Mail Wagon's. These are not refrigerated, so it can't be a Utility Wagon.
The standard Cattle Wagon (77030) was discontinued a few year's ago. The only Cattle Wagon that Bachmann have in production is Troublesome Truck #3. I doubt this will get discontinued, as it part of the Troublesome Truck's!
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #29 By AJW98Productions: No, I do not count Murdoch, Arthur or Rosie as main characters. I do think though that calling Rosie a 'minor character' is a bit harsh though. She is something on a level more then minor. I call a minor character as Murdoch and Arthur, as well as Molly and Neville.
I would say Rosie has been released due to the look of her of being quite different ad interesting with her livery. She will have a pen place on my layout though, and she is very welcome onto my Island of Sodor. I welcomed her to it, the minute I saw this thread last night!
I think we where all expecting Rheneas this year, as he is the 'Percy' of the Skarloey Railway. Next year, I think we are going to get Sir Handel.
I certainly hope we get Coaches and Brake Van's next year. I am excited for the Slate Wagon's as they are monument to the Narrow Gauge Railway, but I am still disappointed there are no Coaches or Brake Van's.
All I hope is that the Salt Wagon, is an exact re-release of the 77034 Salt Wagon. I am defiantly getting this before it gets discontinued, as I got none of the previous release, sadly.
I think the GWR Cattle Wagon will be the same as the 77030 Cattle Wagon, just with a 'GW' graphic on the sides. It has clearly been released for Duck, Oliver and Toad.
I cannot comment much of what the Refrigerator Car is. I want to see what the prototype image is, then I will decide if I will buy it or not.
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on February 13, 2016, 07:25:41 AM
No, I do not count Murdoch, Arthur or Rosie as main characters. I do think though that calling Rosie a 'minor character' is a bit harsh though. She is something on a level more then minor. I call a minor character as Murdoch and Arthur, as well as Molly and Neville.
There really isn't much of a level between main and minor though, and considering her amount of appearances throughout the show's entire run, I'd say she's on the level of a minor character, especially since a bulk of those appearances were either as a background character or a character with limited dialogue, honestly, outside of the "core characters" and with some very limited exceptions, the other characters are comparatively quite minor, I'd say Rosie is on the level of a minor character as well, she may have more appearances to her name than the likes of Arthur and Murdoch, but when it comes to the stories she actually has an overall importance to, and was not just a background character for, she's about on par with Murdoch and Arthur really. But this has strayed from the idea of the actual announcements.
Back On Topic: I enjoy the anticipation that comes with every new release, especially with some of the announcements released this year, as there seems to be more room for speculation when compared to other years, for example: this year's Refrigerator Van vs. last year's Green Mail Coach, don't know about the rest of you but I found the title Green Mail Coach left little to the imagination. This year's Refrigerator Van seems to leave a little more to the imagination, as I don't even know what tooling to expect it to be. I do like Mully's idea though, that the Refigerator Van may look like the vans seen here: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/thomas-and-friends-cgi-series/images/b/b4/CalmDownCaitlin56.png/revision/latest?cb=20140517071217
~Alex
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #31 By AJW98Productions: I count Rosie as in-between a main and minor character.
The link to the picture you posted there Alex is the Cream Utility Wagon. Hornby released this back in 2006. I understand it that a Refrigerator Wagon and a Utility Wagon are two different things. I doubt this Live Lobsters Refrigerator Wagon will be a Utility Wagon.
UPDATE: I have found this on Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator_car. This is probably what will be used for the Refrigerator Wagon, with a Live Lobsters logo on the sides.
I am not sure why Bachmann are releasing it though. I have seen that type of Wagon on the TV Series, or a train of lobsters before.
Here are my predictions on how the new line will look.
Rosie
I believe that they will model her from her season 18 look as seen below, with her lamp and a tail lamp behind.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/mulfred100/SamsonatYourService24_zps9juiqqa7.png~original) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/mulfred100/media/SamsonatYourService24_zps9juiqqa7.png.html)
I think she will be a nice addition to the range, yes she hasn't had many speaking roles but she is a good engine for a layout, will look nice in a yard as seen here or pulling the red coaches.
TT5
I have a few ideas how I want this too look. I hope like this
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/mulfred100/ACloseShave9_zpsk5aq7xip.png~original) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/mulfred100/media/ACloseShave9_zpsk5aq7xip.png.html)
or this (Jacob)
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/mulfred100/ToadStandsBy75_zps9swbqi9v.png~original) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/mulfred100/media/ToadStandsBy75_zps9swbqi9v.png.html)
however I think it will probably be modelled after the cgi series like this
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/mulfred100/WhosGeoffrey15_zpsk5asw3as.png~original) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/mulfred100/media/WhosGeoffrey15_zpsk5asw3as.png.html)
Great Western cattle wagon
Very simple either they will give it a classic look which I kinda what they have now or possibly this
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/mulfred100/VeryImportantSheep24_zps2c8ekqxf.png~original) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/mulfred100/media/VeryImportantSheep24_zps2c8ekqxf.png.html)
Salt wagon
Exactly the same as the one we had maybe with a logo on the side.
Refrigeration van with lobsters
Only thing that makes sense based on the show is a utility wagon like this. Seen many times attached to the flying kipper and I does sort of make sense in my head or it could be like the vent van behind the utility wagon. That's my ideas
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/mulfred100/CalmDownCaitlin56_zps1zcn3kzi.png~original) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/mulfred100/media/CalmDownCaitlin56_zps1zcn3kzi.png.html)
Rheneas
Much like I think with Rosie he will be modelled off his CGI model from season 18 as I know Bachmann use the most up to date information they have on the models
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/mulfred100/DuncanandtheGrumpyPassenger10_zpsmxuqxgzr.png~original) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/mulfred100/media/DuncanandtheGrumpyPassenger10_zpsmxuqxgzr.png.html)
Slate trucks
Probably the same truck with different loads or different colours/weathering the trucks them selves I hope will be based on the slate trucks used in the classic and CGI series like ones seen pulled by luke here
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/mulfred100/TheSwitch10_zpsut5n6wad.png~original) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/mulfred100/media/TheSwitch10_zpsut5n6wad.png.html)
Large scale
Obviously Thomas and Percy will look the same just more updated I guess. the box vans probably the same tooling as the ice cream van with different logos on them like fruit and explosives.
Does anyone know when they will put the products on the online store?
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #33 By mully: No, I hope Bachmann do not fit Rosie with that lamp above her face and smokebox, in front of her funnel. Rosie does not look good with it. She looks better without the lamp and that is how I want Bachmann's Rosie to be.
Nice touch about adding my name there in brackets for the Troublesome Truck Tanker! I hope either Troublesome Truck #5 is the Tanker or the Closed Van. I don't want it to be another Open Wagon, as we already have three of those!
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #34 By Thomasfan39: Hopefully soon, with prototype images!
@mully: With all due respect, I'm frankly guessing that TT#5 will be an open wagon, mostly because of how common they are in the show, and that we haven't seen a Troublesome Truck that wasn't an open wagon since Season 7, I think. But please, don't get me wrong, I would love to see a vent van or a tanker be used for TT#5. :) After all, Bachmann does pull lots of surprises on us ;)
I see some problems in this thread already, and it hasn't even been up for 24 hours. One of them is how one user in particular feels that he has to reply obsessively to every single post on this thread making this thread already go up to its third page... ::)
The other and the more important issue in hand is the lack of understanding since some people on this forum can't understand why I along with some other users are not thrilled with Rosie's announcement in the range. Just as I would have expected it seems that Rosie got a very mixed response, albeit mostly negative from what I've heard. This plays a part with how little demand she had for her at the time compared to some of the other characters. Don't get me wrong, she actually had some kind of demand compared to some of the other products in this years announcements, particularly the large scale range this year. I'm also not against the idea of Bachmann moving onto newer characters either, I think characters like Hiro, Porter, Paxton, and even Timothy to be good ideas worth discussing in the future. It just seems very odd for me and plenty of other fans Bachmann would pick her over someone like Paxton who not only had a stronger demand but he was also a repaint of the Diesel tooling which would make him a lot easier and cheaper to make than Rosie. I feel that the more likely reason that Bachmann did this is because Mattel insisted that they start on newer characters and aiming for one who has a color contrast obviously came to mind for this. Some of the other announcements have Mattel's name written all over them too, the lobster car in particular. But Bachmann are at the very least doing something that will make older fans happy which is Rheneas and some slate wagons. So I can't say that this years announcements was a total loss, but the faults that are there are extremely glaring which is why I still stand by my viewpoint that this years announcements fall flat for me. But that's just my opinion, until I see the HO stock which I have a feeling will all be repaints from Mainline.
Putting someone like Rosie who clearly is one of Hits marketing tools in the toy department into model train production is a very risky gamble as it is, and I hope that sales would be decent for their sake. Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt that people will buy this model, there's enough people who stated that here already. But long term, this really doesn't look like a model I can see sticking around on the shelves once the model is out for very long. The younger generation of fans who seem to appreciate Rosie are mostly girls which is a smaller number compared to boys. Ultimately, Bachmann has to find some way to appeal to the younger generation in one way or another but I feel like this really wasn't the best way to do so, but again, that's just my opinion.
Not going to give any further thoughts until I see the 2016 catalog.
Nothing...at all...for the resin line? :o
Quote from: Chaz on February 13, 2016, 12:03:54 PM
I see some problems in this thread already, and it hasn't even been up for 24 hours. One of them is how one user in particular feels that he has to reply obsessively to every single post on this thread making this thread already go up to its third page... ::)
I absolutely agree, I only put the top portion of the quote so it wouldn't run too long, but to say it straight out there, is absolutely NO need to reply to everyone's comments. Like I've said in the past if you really need to talk about it that badly carry it over into the DMs.
And I agree with Chaz again, I could easily see Mattel having a big part in this. There are SO many other choices they could have gone with, with that being said I'm sure it will be absolute quality like usual, but I will not be picking this model up. Now I'm not a large scale collector so I don't know if this is exciting news for that range or not, but they do seem to be getting a lot of rolling stock. Now Rehneas we all saw coming or at least hoped and I am definitely glad to see this being made. I'm a little disappointed coaches weren't announced, but at least slate trucks are coming! Hopefully Rheneas will actually release this year like Skarloey was able to release in 2015. If Rosie is pushed back to 2017 by no means will I care, because at least we are getting Oliver, Toad, and Rhenaes.
So when it comes to the 2016 announcements? I'm honestly more excited for the delayed 2015 announcements. (the only exception being Rheneas)
Guys, I hate to be the rain on your parade, but the large van from A Close Shave will not happen.
One, its huge. Tall as it is wide, it will violate the NMRA standards. If you want it, go get the PECO O-16.5 kit and put a TT face on it. :P
Its most likely going to be the Salt Truck or a CGI troublesome truck.
Also, Rosie was bound to come sooner or later. She is one of the iconic female characters in Thomas, despite her lack of star roles. She's made it onto ever toy line. She must be obviously selling well for the brand if she's put on merchandising lines again and again. The only thing is the writers don't know how to utilize her.
My two cents: and before I begin, know that I am not demeaning Chaz at all, we are becoming good friends (I hope! :P) but I heartily disagree with his thoughts:
To say that Rosie being made rather than Stepney, Daisy, or the likes is a huge tragedy and makes the 2016 announcements fall flat is simply unfair. Sure, maybe Rosie wasn't everyone's first choice, but at the end of the day Bachmann is a COMPANY. They can't make Olivers and Ducks every year to satisfy the older fan's needs. They need to make smarter business choices that will benefit them and the Thomas brand as a whole, and unfortunately this means that sometimes our wants are not always met. This means that a pink, female-esque model made more sense to the range than a character kids won't even remember the name of. I think that Bachmann made all the extra rolling stock to try and say sorry for the lack of a more classic character (as my suspicion is they didn't have a choice) and expanding the narrow gauge range with not one, not two, but three new rolling stock options and the most requested engine. So instead of complaining, appreciate what we have for this year and know that Bachmann is trying, in more ways than one.
That previous post is speculation lol i do clearly state it probably will be a cgi style truck. I for one am happy with this years releases. I feel there is something for every kind of fan. As for Rosie i will buy her. Yes might not be the most popular choice but i like her model. Can not wait too see the product images. Lastly i want to add that Bachmann put money and a lot of time and effort into these products. Can not just aim to please us older fans. ::)
I hate to be rude James and mully, but both of you missed my point entirely. I very clearly said in my post that there were other faults in the lineup alone that were glaring, it is not just Rosie alone that is what made the annoucements fall flat for me. I will share later once I get a more clear idea of what's going on in the catalog, whenever that gets posted.
I also stated that I am not against newer characters being made either and I have a good idea why Rosie was picked, both of these I also explained in my post too.
That being said, I do agree that it's nice that we are getting so much rolling stock this year in HO. It's rare we get more than 1-2 pieces of rolling stock per lineup. But some I'm a little unsure of and others I think sound interesting but that will come down to how some of them turn out.
You also mentioned another problem with this years range too, no resin buildings. Hopefully just a mistake on the mods part for forgetting them. But if not I can't get that upset considering how much they have done in recent years so a break from resin buildings isn't a bad thing when there is a good variety to choose from already in such a short amount of time.
Quote from: mully on February 13, 2016, 01:23:34 PM
That previous post is speculation lol i do clearly state it probably will be a cgi style truck. I for one am happy with this years releases. I feel there is something for every kind of fan. As for Rosie i will buy her. Yes might not be the most popular choice but i like her model. Can not wait too see the product images. Lastly i want to add that Bachmann put money and a lot of time and effort into these products. Can not just aim to please us older fans. ::)
Mully, that wasn't a jab at you and I should have made it clear.
It was for those hoping for it and how we get threads year after year stating why we should get it.
For anyone curious about how the O-16.5 kits for China Clay and Old Vans are, here's a pic:
(http://i.imgur.com/1zNU4da.jpg)
They're both as wide as Bill and Ben but the van is pretty tall.
Lovely models, sparks.
I'm going to take the centre ground on this...
I think Chaz is probably right with his speculation. Mattel have obviously had a hand in this year's product choices. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing though and rolling stock wise, there is arguably not much that hasn't been explored already - bar perhaps hoppers and brake van variety
I remember the last time we had this much rolling stock announced... It was the year that included the well, 6ton and br wagons. The difference was these were based from TV pieces. They are now discontinued, including other iconic pieces, like the coaches. I don't think this is a coincidence.
Us guys that take time to post here are just a fraction of the consumers of the Thomas range. Parents whose kids probably experienced Thomas from season 8 or 13 onwards are the main client. Therefore it's no surprise we have gimmicky releases. They sell well in other Thomas toy ranges, so it's no surprise Bachmann are taking a punt on them.
The lobster car can be seen in Take and Play:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjD1oCVwPXKAhXIJJoKHYO-D1oQjhwIBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FThomas-Friends-Trains-Metal-live-lobster-Jet-Fuel-Tanker-Kid-Toy-%2F252157774818&psig=AFQjCNFwnyL2AjOlQ82cHN6H234QBtC-mQ&ust=1455479059165001&rct=j
I would rather the Bachmann version a van than a tanker.
The fruit and veg van can be seen in Trackmaster:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjD1oCVwPXKAhXIJJoKHYO-D1oQjhwIBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FThomas-Friends-Trains-Metal-live-lobster-Jet-Fuel-Tanker-Kid-Toy-%2F252157774818&psig=AFQjCNFwnyL2AjOlQ82cHN6H234QBtC-mQ&ust=1455479059165001&rct=j
I presume they will use the ice cream wagon tooling for this and for the other LS vans too. Shape wise not much variety, but at least Bachmann are exhausting the design options in one year, rather than drip feeding over the next 3, like they did with the tankers and wagons.
I would still love Henrietta, the mail and the red coaches in the LS future.
I imagine the LS explosive van to be this design from the HiT era;
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/ttte/images/2/22/ThomasAndTheFireworkDisplay15.png/revision/latest?cb=20150419171602
Last year, it was the 70th anniversary... I take the release of Skarloey and Oliver as a love letter to the fans. This year, it's business as usual. Though do remember we have Rheneas!
Rosie, from a design point of view, is an interesting character choice. Yes, her personality isn't fleshed out, but she does have a presence in the CGI era. At ThomasLand UK, she is branded EVERYWHERE next to Thomas. She obviously has sales power - I will buy one!
On a last general note, I've been a member of the Bachmann forum for nearly a decade. Both the behaviour of posters AND the reactors is putting me off visiting... I hope the atmosphere can change. We should all think before we post... Let's not be unnecessary and also not unnecessarily cruel.
^^^^ Above 4 Replies - @Reply #45 By Sparks: Which manufacturer are those Open Wagon's and Closed Van made by, Sparks?
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #47 By sodorlad: Yes, that is a good point about Thomas Land. Thomas Land in the UK is part of Drayton Manor Theme Park, and there everything is pretty much themed as Thomas and Rosie. Thomas obviously because he the main Engine and he is a boy, and Rosie because she has been selected to be used as the main girl Engine.
Rosie is popular and I like her and I am really happy Bachmann are releasing her. This the 10the year now since Rosie's introduction into the Series, and we are at least 9 - 8 year's late of her release into model railway's. Better late than never though!
Has Oliver been revealed at the toy fair yet?
Does anybody know when the Bachmann Trains 2016 Catalogue will be released? I am interested in knowing the RPP's and seeing the prototype images for: Rosie, Sodor Salt Wagon, Troublesome Truck #5, GWR Cattle Wagon, Refrigerator Car - Live Lobsters, Rheneas and the three Slate Wagon with Load's.
This was really quick, the body shells are done for the 3 new Large Scale pieces!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbIX8wXUkAAdc5a.jpg
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #51 By JD417: Flipping heck! That was quick, being that the Sodor Fruit & Vegetable Co. Box Van, Explosives Box Van and the Great Western Box Van where announced yesterday! I really want these Box Van's, especially the Sodor Fruit & Vegetable Co. one. I wish these where being released in the HO/OO Gauge range as well.
I would love them in HO as well. I'd much rather prefer those over the plain blue one we have now.
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #53 By JD417: I agree. The plain blue Ventilated Van is nice, but I want Bachmann to release more plain ones in different colours and in liveries to carry specific goods. It would great if Bachmann release a Mr. Jolly's Chocolate Factory Ventilated Van, a Sodor Fruit & Vegetable Co. Ventilated Van and a Fireworks Ventilated Van in HO/OO Gauge. These would be amazing to own!
Sounds like a good lineup, mostly for Rheneas. Obviously not as impressive as last year's, but lets face it, when you release classics like Oliver, Skarloey and Toad in the same lineup, not to mention great rolling stock and resin, it's hard to follow it up. Either way, its Bachmann so expect quality stuff as always.
Looking forward very much to the sound versions of the 'G' Scale Thomas and Percy for my collection...
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #55 By LittleWesternAdventures: Last years releases was for the 70th Anniversary of Thomas, but this year is a good release as well. I think this year's is as good as 2015.
Well here is a video showing the 2016 catalog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2iVKlRwfK8
I think the large scale vans look all right and I figured that they were going to be repaints of the same van tooling as the ice cream wagon, which isn't bad but nothing that I see myself screaming over. It was also great seeing the display too in the photo shown earlier too. I can see the Great Western one in particular being popular, but I'm not so sure on the other two.
The HO rolling stock though... Wow!
Troublesome Truck #5 is literally the same salt wagon we had before but it has a classic model face on it! That by itself is incredible and I am definitely going to pick one or two of them up. A HUGE improvement over trucks #3 and #4, well done Bachmann! :)
The GW cattle van looks pretty nice too, I don't think it's anything spectacular but it was a lot better than what I expected even though I'm probably going to pass on this one. I'll be passing on the Sodor Salt Wagon too. I'll admit now that I saw this and Troublesome Truck #5 I can't see this one being popular since the current salt wagon technically came back to the range (with a classic face on it as an added bonus) and I imagine that will do a lot better than the Sodor salt wagon, but that's just my own assumption. I am also passing on the lobster car too. As I said earlier, that one has Mattel's name written all over it.
Also the slate car image from season 6 was a nice touch but it's a shame there is no reference photo for the time being showing the actual stock, but my money is on the Peco slate cars with slate load(s).
Honestly I don't think that this years announcements were as bad as I thought before now that I at least got to see the rolling stock but I do think that as a whole there were some things that I wasn't impressed with besides Rosie such as the idea of doing DCC in large scale and some of the rolling stock choices in HO and large scale. I am definitely most excited for Rheneas, I am really looking forward to him! :)
So I guess my views at best is basically "hit and miss" for this years announcements. I think that some of the stuff that got announced this year (and that also includes some of the stuff I won't be getting) will pay off really well and will do great for Bachmann, others I'm very indifferent to but to each his own. I'll only be getting Rheneas and Troublesome Truck #5, otherwise that's about it. Now I can at the very least say that this years announcements were a little better than I thought which is also a nice plus. While I do think that some of the other products that got announced this year do look nice most of it isn't really something I'm interested in picking up personally but that's just me. It's a shame that Oliver and Winston had no photos in the catalog yet but hopefully we will be able to see them soon in the not too distant future.
I will definitely be getting a whole heap of troublesome truck 5 and the gwr cattle van! I will also get the lobster van and rheneas and rosie! I will also get the narrow gauge rolling stock and the sodor salt wagon in lots! WOW! :D
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #58 By Chaz: Where did that person get the Catalogue from?! At least is shows what it will look like.
I am disappointed that the Sodor Salt Wagon is brown. I wanted it to be white like the orginial. Maybe the advantage is of Troublesome Truck #5 which is the same as the old Salt Wagon, which has a face. I wished that Troublesome Truck #5 is a Closed Van or Tanker though.
I do not like the livery of the GWR Cattle Wagon it looks odd.
It also appears that the Refrigerator Car - Live Lobsters is a Utility Wagon in white. It looks nice, but it still not a Thomas product, however, I will still bet one or two of them.
No, images of the products of Rosie, Rheneas or the Slate Wagon's, but I am still looking forward to getting them. I hope these will be good!
I am over the moon with these. I knew that the refrigerator wagon would look that way. What a surprise tt5 was. That's amazing. I can not wait. Sadly i see Oliver being released later in the year now that there's no photo. But brilliant
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #61 By mully: Yes, they are brilliant. I have seen the Sodor Salt Wagon, and it say's 'Sodor Salt' on it, so I under that this Wagon, actually carries salt, and not fish, like the 77034 Salt Wagon would carry, or the new Troublesome Truck #5.
Interesting! Kudos to Bachmann for TT#5!
Also I see Rheneas has a retail price! Thats good news! Seems they already know how much he'll cost to make and produce!
Interested in seeing what loads the slate wagons will have.
So, the lobster refrigerator car looks like a repainted version of the mail car (a reefer with Windows in the sides?), the troublesome truck #5 and the Sodor salt wagons look like repaints of the old plain salt wagon, and the cattle wagon appears to be a repaint of the previous cattle car. Not that there's anything wrong with having more variety in paint schemes, but I had hoped the refrigerator car would have included some new tooling to be more plausible as a reefer. As it is, with it's windows, it seems more believable to believe it really represents a box car fitted out with tanks inside for the transport of live lobsters and fish, rather than an actual reefer. Such cars did exist in the USA for restocking fish in this countries lakes and streams. Ah well, no foul, since the Thomas line is really all fantasy anyway, and it's great for introducing kids (both young and old) to the hobby of model trains.
Bill in FtL
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #64 By railtwister: The new Refrigerated Car - Live Lobsters is the same as the Red and Green Mail Car's, which are Utility Wagon's.
I know if I pick up a Refrigerated Car, I'm definitely going to use it as a Flying Kipper van.
Definitely like the look of TT#5. Another face to swap around my others with.
(http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l345/ryan_scott10/image_zpsilthrlns.jpeg) (http://s328.photobucket.com/user/ryan_scott10/media/image_zpsilthrlns.jpeg.html)
Now that everything is out, here's my thoughts:
Rosie was inevitable in the range eventually, I figured they were going to make Paxton first though as he'd be easier to make. Maybe they're saving him for down the road when they need a cheaper engine. Anyway, like Arry and Bert, I won't have much of an interest in Rosie, but good for the people that will. I already have one of the upcoming Bachmann USA tanks on pre-order.
Curious to see how Rosie will turn out financially, since in the past, marketing model trains towards little girls doesn't seem to go over so well.
Rheneas isn't a surprise, but nonetheless, glad to know the narrow gauge range is going to be continued. Fingers crossed that Sir Handel and Peter Sam will follow next year (and considering Skarloeys sales, is a no-brainer). Gonna guess Peco or Bachmann is going to announce Talyllyn and Dolgoch models soon.
Pretty indifferent to the Salt Vans since I already have four, but I really like the decal on the "Sodor Salt" van, and it's good to see a classic face (although not a laughing face sadly) on Troublesome Truck 5. Surprised it's not a different color though. GWR Cattle Wagon is a curious item, since it appears to be a re-paint of the mainline LMS cattle van. Surprised it took this long for Bachmann to make the refridgerator van, I can see it selling better than the Green Mail Car.
Slate wagons were expected, but I'm curious what loads they'll have.
Really digging the decals on the large scale vent vans, wouldn't mind having those in OO scale.
^^^ Above 3 Replies - @Reply #66 By DinoNTrains: But Live Lobsters Utility Wagon is for carrying lobsters. I do believe that The Flying Kipper is a train of fish. Have lobsters ever been part of The Flying Kipper?
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #67 By Titanic5972: I like the look of Troublesome Truck #5 as well. I wish Bachmann would have re-released the Salt Wagon with out the face though. It would suit The Flying Kipper better.
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #68 By Sparks: Which USA Tank Engine have you pre-ordered?
I would like Paxton, but I am happy with Bachmann's choice of releasing Rosie instead. I can't wait for her! :)
I am really curious about the GWR Cattle Wagon. It looks really odd. I haven't seen anything like it at all. I don't think it will be a good seller. After seeing the prototype, I am not sure if I want to be honest with you. I guess I have to though, as I am a Collector!
I am also interested in what the Load's will be in the Slate Wagon's. I am glad there are 3 different Wagon's, as once I get my 3 of each, I will have 9 Slate Wagon's! I have always wanted more than three of these, but only three of each. I am glad I can still only get three of the Slate Wagon's, to have a train of 9 Wagon's all together, which will be a decent sized train.
For everybody to answer:
Also, have this Live Lobsters Utility Wagon's ever been seen in the TV Series?
What is the Sodor Salt Wagon for, exactly? To carry fish or salt?
I'll be completely honest, from what we're seeing now-a-days, with Toad being a recolour from the Bachmann Branchline tooling, and what the Sodor Salt truck, and GW Cattle Van appears to be, I wouldn't be surprised if they started using Branchline toolings for all the new releases, which, I would actually prefer because of the smaller, metal couplings. Plus, there's the extra detailing in them.
As much as I don't like recolours because it seems lazy, these don't feel like that. I know they're all recolours from an existing tooling and all, but maybe they released the Green Mail Car last year to lower our expectations, and then they make much better recolours the following year to make them seem better. Idk, these just have me excited :P
Jacob it is easy to remove the face. Just like I did with my other trucks. They just pop off.
I'm fine with recolors regularly as long as the designs are interesting. Nothing too colorful or gaudy, but stuff that would look normal on Sodor. Do far the OO and Large scale repaints are doing a good job of that.
^^^ Above 3 Replies - @Reply #70 By JD417: Good point! Toad looks just a Bachmann Branch-Line GWR Brake Van from the UK. Plus, the coupilings look metal, which I prefer. I do hope Bachmann use more tooling's from the UK Bachmann, range so everything has more detail looks better coupiling wise. Then the Bachmann Thomas & Friends range will suit the Hornby Thomas & Friends range better to do with the Gauge and scale difference.
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #71 By Titanic5972: If I am to take the face off, then I will buy x4 Troublesome Truck #5's and take the face's off three of them and keep one with the face on, for my fleet of Troublesome Trucks!
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #72 By Sparks: I prefer colourful Wagon's. I would rather have something more colourful than brown, like the Sodor Salt Wagon is.
Well it is the flying kipper it makes sense lobsters are part of the fish family so yes i believe that they are. As i said yesterday when i said about the design of this wagon. Tt5 is brilliant i can't wait for these to hit the shops. Rosie and little rehenaes are defo buys. Cattle wagon will have to see the final product photo. As for the catalogue question he brought it at the train show.
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #74 By mully: Maybe the Live Lobster Utility Wagon might look good in The Flying Kipper, but I will have to mix and match it up a bit, as I have 9 Ventilated Van's for it (x3 Bachmman Blue, x3 Hornby Light Grey, x3 Hornby Red Oxide), x4 Utiliy Wagon's (x3 Hornby Cream Utility Wagon and x1 Bachmann Green Utility Wagon (I plan on getting x2 more of these)) and x6 Lime Wagon's (x3 Hornby Grey and x3 Hornby Brown).
In response to the catalogue video post, I have to say I'm quite excited to see that Oliver will be $115, and I'm liking the GWR Cattle Wagon. Rheneas will be the same price as Skarloey so that's good to know. I think so far it is safe to assume that each engine for the Narrow Gauge subtheme will keep around the same $150 price range.
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on February 14, 2016, 01:14:57 PM
But Live Lobsters Utility Wagon is for carrying lobsters. I do believe that The Flying Kipper is a train of fish. Have lobsters ever been part of The Flying Kipper? [...] Also, has this Live Lobsters Utility Wagon's ever been seen in the TV Series?
[...] Which USA Tank Engine have you pre-ordered?
[...] What is the Sodor Salt Wagon for, exactly? To carry fish or salt?
1. I don't recall that it was never explicitly stated, but considering the nature of livestock trains, I wouldn't call it unrealistic, but the van has been seen in the show itself recently, so again, I wouldn't put it past them, but the name I'd say could just be for the sake of making it...distinctive. I could be wrong though.
2. Sparks would be purchasing the SR USA Dock Tank I imagine...A.K.A Rosie's basis.
3. In real life, Salt. Definitely Salt. In the show? I don't recall it ever being mentioned, so I would say they could easily be used for fish if one can stretch their imagination far enough.
On a side note, I recall reading around here that they could just be another Mail Car repaint, which wouldn't be entirely accurate, as when one looks at them closely in these pictures, you can see they have different panels at the front and rear of the vans.
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w493/AJW98Productions/Caitlin%20and%20the%20flying%20kipper_zpsciph7k9z.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/AJW98Productions/media/Caitlin%20and%20the%20flying%20kipper_zpsciph7k9z.png.html)
And on a final note, I look forward to seeing the Brown Salt Van join the range, I also look forward to seeing how the Great Western Cattle Van turns out, the prototype picture has me curious. This whole year's range has my curious if I'm honest, I'm very curious to see how all the stock that we currently haven't see prototypes of turns out.
~Alex
^ Above 1 Reply - @Repky #77 By AJW98Productions: I will answer your answer's in order:
1. Well, I do like Utility Wagon's, so a new one in another livery does not go a miss with me! I just find obscure why we have random one that carries Live Lobsters!
2. That would be interesting to see, but not as interesting when Bachmann release Rosie, which I want now!
3. I have never noticed salt being transported on the TV Series before. It has a 'Sodor Salt' logo on it, so I have a feeling it is to carry salt not fish. I guess we could use our imaginations that they carry salt!
I look forward to see how it all turns out to, like the GWR Cattle Wagon which is very obscure looking!
The Bachmann 2016 catalog is up, feel free to look.
http://resources.bachmanntrains.com/bachmann2016/
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #79 By Metal: Thank you for posting that link. I am happy to see the images for the new releases. I am still unsure and very dubious of that GWR Cattle Wagon. No, prototype of Rosie, which is a shame!
I am going to try and get a cheap paper Catalogue if this from eBay with postage at a reasonable price (As I live in the UK), like I did with last year's Catalogue. A paper version will be even better than this PDF version!
Did anyone notice the note on the G Scale DCC module?? It says there are going to be the other engines whistles on it. Why would they include the other engines whistles on the generic DCC box. If they arnt built? Just a thought for the future maybe?
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #81 By Artist794: I would just like to welcome another new User to the Thomas & Friends Disscusion Board of the Bachmamn Trains Forum, so welcome Artist794!
Maybe Bachmann have included the whistles of the Engines they have not produced, is because Bachmann may release them, or plan to release them in the future. Releasing the DCC Sound Module now with the whistles of these Engines is a lot more cost-affected way of doing it, rather than Bachmann spending more money, by re-designing the DCC Sound Module and re-releasing it, every time they bring a new Locomotive out. Bachmann are clearly thinking ahead for the future, which is a sensible thing to do.
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on February 18, 2016, 07:45:26 PM
No, prototype of Rosie, which is a shame!
She was just announced, of course there isn't going to be a prototype. Usually the prototypes aren't ready until roughly halfway between the official release and announcement, usually favouring the side closer to the release too.
Quote from: Metal on February 18, 2016, 07:37:07 PM
The Bachmann 2016 catalog is up, feel free to look.
http://resources.bachmanntrains.com/bachmann2016/
Thank you for sharing, Metal :)
~Alex
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #83 By AJW98Productions: I know that prototype's generally are not released this early released this early. The announcements where only made a week ago today! It's just that I can't wait to get Rosie, and it would be nice to have like a computer drawn prototype of Rosie, like Bachmann have done with the Sodor Salt Wagon and the GWR Cattle Wagon. Hornby always do this with their new announcements of Locomotives, in their Thomas & Friends range.
Remember how soon we got pictures of Bill and Ben?
I recall that it was early, not sure how early, but I remember it caught everyone by surprise, as it wasn't normal for the range at the time. I could be wrong, but as we don't even have photos of Oliver yet, I suspect Rosie's won't come out for a little while either, I certainly do not expect her photos to be out in a hurry, but that's just my thoughts. I could be entirely wrong.
~Alex
So since there was very little update to Oliver in Bachmann's current catalog and with no prototype photo of Oliver out after Toyfair, based on releases of the past, how far would a release period (i.e. around what months) be more likely to happen for him? I'm only saying estimates based on the past, like with Duck's release, etc.
While on that train of thought, does anyone know how long on average it takes for Bachmann items to show up on Amazon after they are first released?
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on February 19, 2016, 07:14:09 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #83 By AJW98Productions: I know that prototype's generally are not released this early released this early. The announcements where only made a week ago today! It's just that I can't wait to get Rosie, and it would be nice to have like a computer drawn prototype of Rosie, like Bachmann have done with the Sodor Salt Wagon and the GWR Cattle Wagon. Hornby always do this with their new announcements of Locomotives, in their Thomas & Friends range.
Hornby and Bachmann are two completely separate companies. You really need to stop comparing one to the other. It's not gonna help anything by doing it. As for prototypes locos, patience is a virtue and you will just have to be until it is ready. Wanting it really badly isn't going to make it come out any quicker.
^^^^ Above 4 Replies - @Reply #85 By thomasj219: No, I do not remember that with Bill and Ben, as they got released in 2010. I only knew and start buying Bachmann Thomas & Friends HO/OO Gauge products a year later in 2011!
^^^ Above 3 Replies - @Reply #86 By AJW98Productions: Let's just hope that if Rosie is delayed until 2017, like Oliver has been delayed from last year until this year (Fingers crossed that Rosie will not be delayed until 2017), I hope that she will be amazing and be worth the wait.
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #87 By LittleWesternAdventures: I do not thing there is a set release date. New products are released when they arrive at Bachmann Trains. All new products have a different time they take to release, as for example, Oliver, Rosie and Rheneas have to have tooling's made for them.
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #88 By Titanic5972: I am not comparing Bachmann and Hornby. I was stating what Hornby do, not comparing.
I do know that wanting Rosie really bad is not going to bring her out any more quickly. It's just that I have waited 10 year's for a Model Railway Locomotive of her to be released, and I am really excited Bachmann are releasing her. :) ;D
The engines usually hits the shelves on an average of 10-18 months after their announcements.
Well based on knowledge and experience, I would have to say Bachmann Oliver probably won't be revealed till April of this year, and won't be released till July, or August of this year. Oliver might be in the same situation as the red coaches were last year. The red coaches were announced in the catalog in February 2014. Then, they still didn't have stock photos in the catalog in February 2015, but then they were revealed in April 2015. They weren't released till August 2015. So far, this has happened with Oliver. Oliver might be in that same situation as the red coaches.
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #91 By TTTEfan1992: This jolly well could be the case that Oliver gets released in the Summer, seeing that Bachmann have not provided a release date or a prototype of Oliver in the Bachmann Trains 2016 Catalogue!
@TTTEfan1992 Reply #91 That would make sense! It seems like that is the pattern. They have the price now, $115, so with that in mind it is only a matter of time. I also wonder if it could also end up in the same case as Toad, in which we had no images for his model until his actual release.
Either way, I'm guessing August at the latest with him.
@Jacob Wilson Thank you for the welcome!!! I had posted that my observation about the DCC module to pose the question about why the other engines whistles would be included. I hope it does mean that someday we get the others in g scale. I know id be first in line for a G scale Gordon and Henry!!
http://www.trainsetsonly.com/page/TSO/PROD/160-58815
While its only on one site, you have a window of what to expect.
I don't understand what you mean BassTbone?
Quote from: TTTEfan1992 on February 19, 2016, 11:40:43 PM
I don't understand what you mean BassTbone?
Probably means the timeframe for release. That website says May for Oliver's release
I don't think it says May, I think it says April.
^^^^^ Above 5 Replies - @Reply #94 By Artist794: It is alright Artist794. If those Engine's included in the DCC Sound Module, which they are, then it must mean that the Engine's will get released in the future.
^^^^ Above 4 Replies - @Reply #95 By BassTbone: That website does not have an expected shipping date for Oliver. I am confused why you posted that link.
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #98 By TTTEfan1992: It says May. April is the 4th month of the year. May is the 5th month of the year.
Actually, the website does have an expected shipping date, it says:
Est. Ship Date: 4/5/2016
Unfortunately, because of the way numerals are arranged in the date in the US or other countries, it could mean April or May, as some countries put the day before the month, others put the month before the day. As this site is American (or at least, I think it is, based on the currency being US Dollars), I would assume they have put the month before the day, as this is a more common practice in the USA than other countries, but then again, I expect a May release to be more likely than April, but the site is all I have to go from, I guess I'll just take it as April for now, but I won't be disappointed if it isn't.
Thank you for sharing BassTBone, it's nice to have a good estimate of the release date :)
~Alex
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #100 By AJW98Productions: Thank you for finding that date Alex. I must have been tired, so I couldn't find it, earlier this morning!
Maybe that is their estimated shipping date when they will get Oliver in stock, so Oliver in general at Bachmann Trains may come in to stock earlier, than that date.
Quote from: AJW98Productions on February 20, 2016, 03:28:49 AM
Actually, the website does have an expected shipping date, it says:
Est. Ship Date: 4/5/2016
Unfortunately, because of the way numerals are arranged in the date in the US or other countries, it could mean April or May, as some countries put the day before the month, others put the month before the day. As this site is American (or at least, I think it is, based on the currency being US Dollars), I would assume they have put the month before the day, as this is a more common practice in the USA than other countries, but then again, I expect a May release to be more likely than April, but the site is all I have to go from, I guess I'll just take it as April for now, but I won't be disappointed if it isn't.
Thank you for sharing BassTBone, it's nice to have a good estimate of the release date :)
~Alex
Why can't Americans just follow the rest of the world and do things properly? Like day/month/year, spelling words correctly ie Colour not color, Honour not honor, and drive on the correct side of the road too( which happens to be the left side, not the right!
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #102 By Titanic5972: You are making me laugh now. That is funny! :D you do a perfectly reasonable point though. This stuff does get annoying, but I am British, so it obviously to do with a different culture!
On that website www.trainsetsonly.com the estimated shipping date does say April, 5 2016 because back in August of last year, I looked at that website and it had a shipping date that said 11/5/2015 which means November 5, 2015. Then I looked at that website at the end of September of last year and it changed to 12/5/2015 which meant December 5, 2015. It couldn't have been May of 2015, because it was already past May of 2015. That was the way the dates were written. The way it is written right now 4/5/2016 it means April 5, 2016 on that website.
Quote from: Jacob Wilson on February 20, 2016, 07:46:11 AM
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #102 By Titanic5972: You are making me laugh now. That is funny! :D you do a perfectly reasonable point though. This stuff does get annoying, but I am British, so it obviously to do with a different culture!
I'm British too so know the proper way things should be done lol
I am British too but i understand the American ways with mm/dd/yy format and American way of wording some things like color and stuff. Plus this is an American form so try not to upset fokes ;)
Quote from: BassTbone on February 19, 2016, 11:32:02 PM
http://www.trainsetsonly.com/page/TSO/PROD/160-58815
While its only on one site, you have a window of what to expect.
Oh yes! I was looking for this website. It was spot on with Skarloey, the engine shed and the Red Coaches. Seeing that it says the discount is about $74, I expect something slightly the same when Oliver hits Amazon about 2-3 months after his release.
^^^^ Above 4 Replies - @Reply #104 By TTTEfan1992: I forgot the American's write it the other way around it gets confusing! My head is all over the place now!
^^^ Above 3 Replies - @Reply #105 By Titanic5972: By So you are British and you live in New Zealand?
^^ Above 2 Replies - @Reply #106 By mully: I do not get upset. It just takes me longer sometimes to work out what members are saying to do with the different wording.
All of you BRITS make this forum very interesting.Jacob,this is a complement.
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #105 By UPTODAY: Thank you.
Quote from: Titanic5972 on February 20, 2016, 06:18:06 AM
Why can't Americans just follow the rest of the world and do things properly? Like day/month/year, spelling words correctly ie Colour not color, Honour not honor, and drive on the correct side of the road too( which happens to be the left side, not the right!
The US is one of the "few" countries that drives on the "right" side?.......Uh-huh....Sure.
Alright lets knock the whole culture thing on the head before someone actually ends up offending someone yeah :)
Especially as I originally said it in jest, yes I completely agree.
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #113 By Titanic5972: I knew you where joking and jest about it!
Replying to reply #107 posted by LittleWesternAdventures:
Really? Was that website accurate with shipping dates too?
Before this discussion on culture gets carried on, I have some news for everyone regarding this years announcements. Doug Blaine was generous enough to provide some information regarding the large scale DCC sound module as well as the characters who got mentioned in the module:
"DCC Sound Module is listed for LS because:
1)It is too large for HO products.
2)It is rated for higher track voltage more commonly used in LS.
3)Other characters are listed because it was easy to include them. It will be less expensive to include them now rather than changing the board later if we ever expanded the LS line with other locos. Let me be clear, the included locos should NOT be taken as a roadmap as to if and when new LS Thomas locos may be produced."
This should hopefully clarify any confusion as well as confirming that it is not best to expect said locomotives in the product description to be made.
One also interesting piece of news I have particularly for narrow gauge fans is he also confirmed that the slate wagons won't be Peco recolors, they will be an all new tooling. :)
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #116 By Chaz: I am hoping that it is good news, that Bachmann are making the tooling for the Slate Wagon's, because the cost of the last year's Wagon's is to much due to them being tooling form PECO. I hope for now on that Bachmann will create all the toolings for the future Wagon's to keep the cost of them down.
Bachmann has always succeeded in replicated Thomas & Friends rolling stock without mainline toolings. Look at the mail coach and the paint flat car.
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #118 By BassTbone: But how could the Flatbed with Paint Drums be a successor, if Bachmann have discontinued them?
what he means is, by the looks. Bachmann have really captured how they really look like.
^ Above 1 Reply - @Reply #120 By Anthony P2: I understand now what BassTbone meant.
Been looking over the 2016 catalog and all the new stuff,including the narrow gauge,looks real good,except for that lobster car.Turning a mail car into a refrigerator car seems a little
bit LAME to me.My own opinion.
JUST SAYING
UPTODAY
PS;no reply needed,thanks!!!!
How could the Narrow Gauge Slate wagon w/ load be out of stock when it hasn't even been released yet? All the other products that have just been announced this year including the one that I just mentioned says "Coming Soon" next to them. Shouldn't the product that I just mentioned say "Coming Soon" just like the other products instead of it saying "Out of Stock"?
Quote from: TTTEfan1992 on May 22, 2016, 01:07:34 PM
How could the Narrow Gauge Slate wagon w/ load be out of stock when it hasn't even been released yet? All the other products that have just been announced this year including the one that I just mentioned says "Coming Soon" next to them. Shouldn't the product that I just mentioned say "Coming Soon" just like the other products instead of it saying "Out of Stock"?
Maybe the first order of the production batch is already sold out to pre-orders, or maybe it's just a simple bug on the page, or an issue that hasn't been rectified.
A little while ago, not all that long actually, (a few weeks if memory serves me correctly) Skarloey's listing was completely removed on the online store, but Skarloey's listing is now back up in the online store.
Whatever the case may be, I don't think it's anything worth stressing over, I'm sure it's all okay, and that the slate wagons will be fantastic!
~Alex