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Title: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on February 15, 2007, 07:33:43 PM
I just can't stop buying engines! I bought numbers 49, 50, 51 at the GSMTS (VHTF IHC 4-8-2 in B&O $60 LLP2K 0-6-0 B&O $130 and a B&O 4-6-2 $40) and today I got numbers 52 and 53! (Rivarossi 2-8-4 RF&P $49.99(was gonna repaint it but it looks too nice in RFP) and a 0-8-0 C&O $150).

And lookin through the Bachmann Cataloge i found even more I want to get....the B&O 4-4-0 Royal Blue....hey bach-man any word on coaches for it since you guys use to make that era coach?....B&O Doodlebug and trailer...and the AFT GS4...somebody help me!!! haha
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: LD303 on February 15, 2007, 07:40:54 PM
i suffer from the same affliction :(.....i have 42 powered locos and 37 unpowered...and more on the way [dang those closeout sales!!]  but thats the fun of this hobby.....some people collect dolls...some collect fancy cars....some collect stamps.....we collect locos and rolling stock.....nuthin' wrong with that!!................is that a clearance sale over there!???????? ;)
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on February 15, 2007, 08:33:48 PM
Failed to menchon that the Rivarossi 2-8-4 was As Is and was in need of repair, which was already done(2 things wrong with it but they were fixed within 20 minutes)...I also failed to menchon I work at M B Kleins one of the largest train stores in the US.
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: SteamGene on February 15, 2007, 10:27:58 PM
Such a deal I have for you.  Not one, but two Bachmann USRA 0-6-0s, both kitbashed with Life Like 0-8-0 ponys, so you'd have operating front couplers (supplied).  In addition, each locomotive comes with not one, but two tenders, one a standard rectangular and the other a slope back tender.  Both locomotives are of recent vintage and run smoothly and pull several cars.  (I can test to see how many 40' boxcars each will pull on straight, flat track.)  You will need to at least reletter them as they are both lettered for the VT&P or the CB&W.
Why would I make such an offer?  Switcher abundance (three Life Like USRA 0-8-0's, one IHC USRA 0-8-0, a Proto 2000 SW-9, and a Con-Cor SW-9.)  And, of course, I'm trying to be helpful.   ;D
Gene
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on February 16, 2007, 07:18:32 PM
Well today i picked up two GP7's in C&O by LLP2K at 71.99 each. thats #'s 54 and 55 and I'm $25.51 away from teh $5,000 Mark on engines alone.
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: Jim Banner on February 16, 2007, 07:55:12 PM
Ah the slippery slope from model railroader to locomotive collector.  Sooner or later we all take the slide.  The downward spiral starts off with "just one more" and it's all down hill from there.  But man, what a ride!
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: chucknlead on February 16, 2007, 08:04:02 PM
I know what you mean. I spent over a thousand bucks in one month on motive power. But I did get a good deal. Two of the engines alone retailed at over seven hundred, I paid less than three. Just picked up an IHC B&O "Big six."

BTW- I'm also a B&O RR fan. The old main line passes my house here in Brunswick, MD. The origional tracks were laid here over 170 years ago.

"Big Six" Brunswick, MD. 1941:

(http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bo6179s.jpg)
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: jesse on February 16, 2007, 08:38:50 PM
I guess I had better read and heed.  I am a one month newbie into model railroading.  My vices were all toward Radio Controlled model aircraft since I am a retired USAF birdman.  So far all I have bougt are three F7A Santa Fe Super Chief engines and two B units.  I have picked up 12 passenger cars in various stages of disrepair.  Most of my work right now is just getting rid of all the horn and hook couplers, and I'm driving Sam nuts at kadee with questions about replacement knuckles ;D

BTW, I am also a B&O fan.  I lived in Owings Mills, Md for 20 years while I was working for NASA at Goddard Space Flight  Center.  The old Western Marlyland tracks ran right behind my apartment.  As for Brunswick, I spent a lot of time roaming around that pretty little town on weekends. If you have not been to the old B&O museum in Balimer you have really missed a great adventure.  Ooooops, I forgot to mention that my only steam loco is a Bachmann 2-6-0, and I think it is a Forney but I'm not sure. It is a part of the John Wayne Duke Express set.

(http://home.inu.net/jcallahan/John_Wayne_Express.jpg)

Jesse
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on February 16, 2007, 08:45:55 PM
chucknlead,

   I've got three of the IHJC 2-10-2's 2 in B&O and 1 in C&O....1 of the B&O i have i put the Rivarossi Shell on and changed the tender. Looks good.
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: chucknlead on February 16, 2007, 09:05:15 PM
Quote from: BaltoOhioRRfan on February 16, 2007, 08:45:55 PM
chucknlead,

   I've got three of the IHJC 2-10-2's 2 in B&O and 1 in C&O....1 of the B&O i have i put the Rivarossi Shell on and changed the tender. Looks good.

Funny you said that. I don't like the headlight in the center of the firebox door and the funny looking vanderbilt tender. Will a Bachman tender match up? How hard was it to swap shells?

RE: Jesse- My buddy works in the Maint. Deptartment at Nasa Goddard. I've done work there myself as contractor. My wife and I have been to the Museum in "Balimer"; can't get enough of it.
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: SteamGene on February 17, 2007, 07:34:34 AM
Jesse,
Your 2-6-0 is not a Forney.  The Forneys were a specific type of locomotive construction, like Heisler or Climax, not a wheel arrangement.  Yours is a standard rod steamer.
Gene
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: jesse on February 17, 2007, 09:51:58 AM
Thank you, kind sir.  I don't know where I got the idea it was a Forney.  I would not know which engine is which.  I am still in the learning phase. All I really know is....it ain't Big Boy.

Jesse
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: SteamGene on February 17, 2007, 10:07:16 AM
Welcome.  Yours is a 2-6-0 because it has one set of pony or leading wheels, three sets of drivers, and no trailing wheels.  It was called a Mogul and served from the latter part of the 19th century intil the early 20th century.  A Big Boy was a 4-8-8-4.  Long time regulars will know that I now must mention the finer 2-6-6-6 Allegheny or Blue Ridge, which unfortunately lacked the PR enjoyed by the BB.  ::)
Gene
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: Atlantic Central on February 17, 2007, 10:37:43 AM
BaltoOhioRRfan,

Do you have a layout yet? Are you planning one? There is nothing wrong with buying locos. I consider myself pretty well disciplined when it comes to buying stuff for my railroad, and I have over 70 locos total, all powered, no dummy units.

We have a saying in our local group, locomotives should be bought in groups of no less then two! It is part of the idea of keeping a prototypical look to your fleet.

But once you decide on a theme and plan for a layout you will be focused on just purchasing what you need to fit that layout. Collecting will seem less important once you get involed in operating and building a layout.

Sheldon
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on February 17, 2007, 06:40:50 PM
chucknlead, for the tender all I did was take the spectrium Vanderbuilt tender and swaped the boreds with teh IHC one. very easy to do. for the boiler it took some modifying of the Rivarossi shell. Mine is still under weight but i'm trying to fix that...

Sheldon, I am currently in the negoation phase trying to take mty dad into where i want to put it. Once i get the territory done then the planning will begin.( I feel like I'm in a court room when it comes to negotionation days)
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: LD303 on February 17, 2007, 07:03:36 PM
sheldons right...once you get an idea of what\where\when you want to model, you can start buying locos and rolling stock to fit your layout......i bought ''on sale'' stuff when i started getting back into HO scale....and ended up with a pretty diverse fleet of power....most have been re-painted and decaled into what fits my layout....but i still have a huge fleet, im sure some of the older stuff and the less than quiet lifelike power will get sold, most likely so i can buy newer locos....lol   it never ends!! ;D
   but the main thing is to have fun...lots of fun ....and share your hobby, i like to think theres a little bit of a train enthusiast in everyone.
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on February 18, 2007, 09:35:23 AM
My layout is going to be free lanced. But I want to get the motive power first so I know it will look right on the layout...Don't want to build a 4x8 and have a Big Boy on it. So I plan on building the layout around the locomotives.
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: SteamGene on February 19, 2007, 09:13:37 AM
Even freelanced, you shouldn't just grab anything for either motive power or cars.  You are wise to reject a Big Boy for a 4x8, but consider this.  What if you have a 20x20, but set in 1925?  Still going to bring out that ugly pig?  Better stick to some 2-6-6-2s and some 2-8-8-2s.  So you go with 1955 and it's a 4x8.  Hard to justify some 2-6-0s or 2-6-2s for mainline power then. 
Even if you freelance, you probably will base your pike on something.  If yours resembles the Norfolk and Western, you will have just a few types of locomotives.  The N&W ended steam with the 0-8-0, 2-8-0 (?), 4-6-2, 4-8-0, 4-8-2, 4-8-4, 2-6-6-2 (?), 2-6-6-4, and 2-8-8-2. 
The C&O, otoh had 0-8-0, 0-10-0, 2-8-0, 2-8-2, 2-8-4, 2-10-2, 2-10-4, 4-6-2, 4-6-4, 4-8-2, 4-8-4, 2-6-6-2, 2-6-6-2, and maybe a few remaining 2-8-8-2.  So which philosophy will you take?   Consider also the Pennsy, which had a N&W outlook towards variety until the very end of steam, and then went berserk!   First it had a raft of experimental steam, to avoid the diesel, and then about every variety of diesel known to man.   
So think about how you will freelance.
Gene
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: Hoople on February 19, 2007, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: BaltoOhioRRfan on February 15, 2007, 07:33:43 PM
I just can't stop buying engines! I bought numbers 49, 50, 51 at the GSMTS (VHTF IHC 4-8-2 in B&O $60 LLP2K 0-6-0 B&O $130 and a B&O 4-6-2 $40) and today I got numbers 52 and 53! (Rivarossi 2-8-4 RF&P $49.99(was gonna repaint it but it looks too nice in RFP) and a 0-8-0 C&O $150).

And lookin through the Bachmann Cataloge i found even more I want to get....the B&O 4-4-0 Royal Blue....hey bach-man any word on coaches for it since you guys use to make that era coach?....B&O Doodlebug and trailer...and the AFT GS4...somebody help me!!! haha

LOOK AT MIRCOMARKS AD! THEIR HAVING CLOSEOUTS ON BACHMANN!
$139 FOR 4-4-0 W/ DCC!
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on February 19, 2007, 05:57:50 PM
I got plenty of 4-4-0's...and i got em Cheaper then that....gotta love Employee Discount  :P

and Today i picked up two Athearn Kits...a Firestone Tank Car for 1.99 and a CP Box Car...


and my Main focus is on 1940-1955....i will have some Old Time equipment but it will be for a Musuem...and Today I won the debate on where the layout will be placed...Construction to start before or during this summer.

(and i don't stay prototypical....i have a B&O GS4, Niagra and Big Boy...along with others that the B&O never owned... I also am going to be using hte American Freedom Train T1 and GS4 on the layout on the musuem except on special occasions...then they will be pulling trains.
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: chucknlead on February 19, 2007, 08:13:31 PM
I may have redefined "freelanced". I started out with WM equipment, then B&O and Pennsy. I liked all the other stuff and wondered, do I have to model the Clinchfield to buy one of their coal hoppers? Do I have to model the New York Central System to buy their box cars and Baldwin Shark? It's my railroad and I decided to name it the Fallen Flag Railway System. I have a list of Class A roads from the late fifties, I plan to have one of everything at minimum. I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D

I Can't stop!!!!!!I don't want to!!!!!!!Need just one more....................!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: LD303 on February 22, 2007, 01:51:09 PM
you can do whatever you want...and its correct......well maybe not a 4-4-0 pulling autoracks....but definitely Clinchfield hoppers on the NYC or UP boxcars on the BN, some gp38's and baldwin sharks heading up a train of boxcars and tank cars from any railroad you want, its all right and proper, just take a look at some of the power at the head end of trains in the 60's and 70's.......pretty odd combos...thanks to mergers and power pooling, so you go right ahead and do whatever you want....if the purists and rivet counters want to complain...stop at the next station and ask them to get off!!!! ;D    above all....HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: Stephen D. Richards on February 22, 2007, 02:52:09 PM
Here I thought it was just me!  lol  I bought into an old hobby store of model HO trains and then just went nuts!!  I'm rebuilding, building, repainting and restoring.  Your all right...I love this stuff!!  lol  And I can't stop......
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: lanny on February 22, 2007, 10:52:48 PM
Jim (and others) mentioned the 'slippery slide' from running locomotives to becoming a collector of locomotives. That sure happened to me when I first got back into HO modeling!

I eventually had lots of beautiful locomotives (steam and diesel of all sorts and all kinds of railroads, types, eras and mfgs.-mostly Spectrum, P2K, BLI and Atlas). Pretty soon I ran out of room to display them all. Then I started to realize that for me, 'running' was more fun than 'looking' ... ('to each his own') ... so I began to sell off most of those beautiful locomotives to concentrate on my layout and on ICRR late steam and early diesel modeling.

Modeling ICRR steam caused me to have to learn how (or at least to 'begin to learn how') to kit-bash. It was pretty scary the first time I cut into the boiler of a beautifully detailed new 2-10-2 HO model, which, as it came from the mfg, had virtually no resemblence to an ICRR 2-10-2 other than the drivers and boiler.

Now I have plenty of steam and diesel for my ICRR era (though most of the steam needs a lot more kit bashing and detailing). But that doesn't mean I couldn't be tempted to buy more locomotives :-).

Then the "I couldn't stop" bug bit me in a different way. Rather than continuing on Jim's slippery 'collector' slide, I 'bounced' over to the just as slippery 'caftsman resin and stryene rolling stock kits' slide. Ah! the fun of building something that looks as good and as detailed as nice brass (or at least, is supposed to look that good :-)

Kit  'building' is also a very steep and slippery slope ... I've got a growing stock of 'craftsman' resin and styene kits. I'm 'building' two or three at the same time. The other day I realized that I have far more 'kits' to build than 'room' to run or store them on my layout. But that's okay because 'I'm having fun' building and I'm little by little, adding to my model building skills (which aren't yet very well developed :-).

Jim, you said it best when you said, 'what a ride'!

lanny nicolet
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: SteamGene on February 22, 2007, 11:00:45 PM
Lanny,
'tis said that you aren't a real model railroader if you don't have at least one hundred untouched/unfinished kits. 
I try to stay right at that level.  ;D
Gene
Title: Re: I just cant stop!!!
Post by: lanny on February 22, 2007, 11:13:41 PM
Wow Gene! Thanks! That means I can go buy some more kits! You truly have made my day! (but you've hurt my pocket book  :-)

Now, let's see, where are all those catalogs, eBay listings and on-line train store addresses :-) <--------- huge, happy grin

lanny nicolet