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Sorry for the delay and missing Christmas. But as you can see, he is done and will be on his way soon.
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He looks so surprisingly well done! I'm not sure that I'm happy that he isn't going to fit in with everyone else, bar the Class 08's, but the fact that he got a retooled lamp, made me really happy for some reason. Maybe that's a sign for a slight update for James, Thomas, and Percy?
Oliver being in his CGI form is really no surprise to me, but I have to give credit where credit is due though as they really hit the nail with the hammer on it with that design. It will no doubt be a hit when it is released, I already have mine on preorder! I also love how the model comes with the lamp, I know that I will be adding my own custom LED light to the model so Oliver can have his lamp lit up while running.
Bachmann have once again colored me impressed! They really deserve a pat on the back for this one, especially with how long this model has been taking. Very much worth the wait!
This is wonderful news! As I've said before, Bachmann never fail to impress me. :)
I was actually expecting Oliver to represent his original model form. That's one Bachmann product I won't be getting.
Would you feel the same about Rosie? ::)
Lovely Oliver model! Thank you Bachmann! Also Looking forward to your Rosie, Troublesome Truck 5, Rheneas and Slate Wagons models as well.
Quote from: thomasj219 on November 04, 2016, 11:59:04 AM
Would you feel the same about Rosie? ::)
I still want Rosie. In fact... I want Rosie even more.
He should be out by December if Rosie doesn't even have a photo and is suppose to come out in December.
Maybe bachmann's leaving Rosie, Rheneas, Troublesome Truck 5 and the slate wagons until the trainfest in Milwaukee Wisconsin later this month at the earliest.
Quote from: ClrwtrMK2 on November 04, 2016, 11:49:50 AM
I was actually expecting Oliver to represent his original model form. That's one Bachmann product I won't be getting.
The illustration of Oliver in both 2015 and 2016 catalogs is him in his CGI design, which was what Bachmann is going to go off of when making the model. It's the current version of the character on the show, and Bachmann uses the most current and up-to-date references for the characters on the show for production. Any future models are going in the exact same direction due to the standards of Hit and Mattel. Oliver was no exception and Rosie and Rheneas will be no different.
I can't tell if his face is more model-era or more CGI era. To me, it looks like a happy medium of both.
This was definitely worth the extended wait. Oliver could very well be aesthetically Bachmann's best Thomas engine yet, and that's really saying something considering Skarloey, Duck, Donald and Douglas.
I love the headlight being added (how long has it been since a Thomas engine had a headlight?) and the detail under the chassis. That looks exceptional.
He looks absolutely fantastic! Cue LED added to the Lamp.
I think Bachmann made Oliver look extremely amazing. I'm so happy for how Bachmann Oliver turned out. The face looks a lot better than I thought it would. Actually, the whole thing looks a lot better that I thought it would. I have to admit though, the face looks very close to the Season 3 smiling face from the episode "Bulgy" except the eye brows on the model are better than the eye brows in that episode imo. That's a plus that I really like. Another plus that I like is that there is no step ladder, and no hand rail on the front of it's water tanks. That gives it another little hint of the classic series version of Oliver. A feature we all might see on this model that will make the model look even better imo when we all see it in person, is that there might be a tail lamp on the lamp iron on the back of it's coal bunker. Bachmann might have outdone themselves with Oliver even further than they did with Duck, and Bachmann Duck is my favorite model. That says a lot right there for how well Bachmann produces there models. I'm really looking forward to purchasing this model when it is available. This was well worth the tedious wait. Thank you very much Bachmann!
He looks amazing the CGI face doesn't even bother me. Bring it on Oli.
About time he's shown! Fantastic!
I think the reason they're putting off the release for 2017 is so that way, the supply can meet the demand, meaning more people can buy him at release.
Overall, kudos to Bachmann. I think the model was well worth the wait. I may have one or two slight issues with his model...but overall I think they did a good job bringing the model to life in a (mainly) CGI form, that still harks back slightly to the model era.
CGI or not, a job well done, I would say.
~Alex
Beautiful model. Exceptional, absolutely gorgeous. Well done Bachmann, you never stop amazing me. This makes me even more excited for Rosie. Will most definitely be getting this one. I think he'll go perfectly with Toad and S.C.Ruffy. Hope he's in hand at Milwaukee.
Can't please everyone and bachmann said it themselves they go for most up to date rendition of the engine/character/rolling stock. I think the did good job and as for matching CGI series hit it dead on can't really moan myself like. Will be buy him for sure when he is released can't think of a better engine to restart my collection. Love every little detail they put In here. This shows that time and effort pays off big time. (Little side note there to all the moaners saying took too long)
I think he looks great, and I bet he will look even better in our hands, but it looks like he's misses some details on his side. http://i66.tinypic.com/10fbc7o.jpg
Still looking great thou
Quote from: Duke on November 06, 2016, 10:46:08 AM
I think he looks great, and I bet he will look even better in our hands, but it looks like he's misses some details on his side. http://i66.tinypic.com/10fbc7o.jpg
Still looking great thou
noticeably the hand rail on his side tank. The little step mould didn't appear on his model series guise though. Don't worry, maybe a fuse wire will fix the hand rail problem. Still, love the model and I have mine on pre order.
I think Oliver will be as big as Mavis.
Looks great to me except for the skinny funnel and boiler, but that looks like Bachmann was just going from Arc's design mistakes, which is fine, really.
Am I the only person that's actually put off by the CGI design?
I love Oliver!!! I will defiantly be getting him when he comes out. I don't mind that he is CGI, i just hope that he is at least in scale with Duck. I remember when Duck's prototype picture came out and he had the black running board but when he came out he had a white one. I do hope this is the case with Oliver, but it may not look good with the CGI look.
Quote from: ClrwtrMK2 on November 06, 2016, 08:59:57 PM
Am I the only person that's actually put off by the CGI design?
Does it honestly matter if some people don't mind the CGI design but you do? Just let the excited consumers enjoy their prototype picture of the model, it may be CGI styled but at least it's accurate to a time frame within the TV series continuity. It honestly isn't a big deal, and considering Skarloey was clearly CGI based for his design, and the fact that the early illustrations shown of Oliver matched his CGI design, it should've been rather clear that Bachmann probably weren't going to go for a "model era" look on Oliver.
I honestly think we should just be happy they chose to release Oliver, they probably could've announced him two years from now, and just released a character/characters like Paxton, until Oliver was released, possibly 3 years from now. Also, whilst the CGI design may not be everyone's favourite, I must add that again, it's better than nothing. At least it wasn't an engine like Stanley getting released after all...
~Alex
And besides the model era ended 8 years ago, I would've thought everyone could figure any kind of merchandise would be based on the current CGI incarnations.
Quote from: AJW98Productions on November 07, 2016, 01:56:53 AM
Quote from: ClrwtrMK2 on November 06, 2016, 08:59:57 PM
Am I the only person that's actually put off by the CGI design?
Does it honestly matter if some people don't mind the CGI design but you do? Just let the excited consumers enjoy their prototype picture of the model, it may be CGI styled but at least it's accurate to a time frame within the TV series continuity. It honestly isn't a big deal, and considering Skarloey was clearly CGI based for his design, and the fact that the early illustrations shown of Oliver matched his CGI design, it should've been rather clear that Bachmann probably weren't going to go for a "model era" look on Oliver.
I honestly think we should just be happy they chose to release Oliver, they probably could've announced him two years from now, and just released a character/characters like Paxton, until Oliver was released, possibly 3 years from now. Also, whilst the CGI design may not be everyone's favourite, I must add that again, it's better than nothing. At least it wasn't an engine like Stanley getting released after all...
~Alex
What do you mean by "An engine like Stanley getting released after all"? I happen to like Stanley! >:(
One off characters with little to no development, such as the logging locos, Hank, Flora, Billy, ECT.
Thank you Sean1994rail, that is precisely what I meant. Also thank you DTST, I can't believe I didn't mention that...it's almost hard to think that it's already been 8 years.
But this topic has drifted off course, what I will say about Oliver's model is the lamp surprises me. I was never a fan of the lamps supplied with Thomas, Percy or James. I may end up buying some spare footplates just for the new lamp. It looks fantastic, and it's a massive improvement over the old one! :)
~Alex
Why doesn't bachmann make the rods on the side of the engines built off of the shell and not on it?
Quote from: Trains111 on November 07, 2016, 09:25:00 PM
Why doesn't bachmann make the rods on the side of the engines built off of the shell and not on it?
If you're referring to the handrails on the sides of the locomotives, it's a simple answer. Bachmann doesn't like to apply fine details that could easily be broken off, to their Thomas models. This is simply because they are mainly marketed towards children, who could easily break off separately fitted details like handrails. So having their handrails moulded onto the engine's bodyshell prevents that chance.
~Alex
Found this on FB.
(https://scontent.fsnc1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15055890_1307847042590319_3998986644070742293_n.jpg?oh=d21030dd2fe225b6d649ec9a6a006ecd&oe=58D1ED9B)
It's official...I'll have to 3D print my own Oliver that actually represent his original model form. Besides that, Are there any other images from Bachmann's display at Train fest.
I don't get you man. He looks near perfect, the only difference is his black running board. It just looks more and more like you want something to complain about to get back people not liking Rosie. I personally don't mind her. And my question to you before not was are you still looking forward to her, but rather would you have a problem if she's based (as she will be) on her CGI model?
I completely agree with Thomasj219. We get it, you don't like Oliver being in his CGI design, but you don't need to keep spreading constant negativity just to get your point out there. It's getting tiring, and comes off as attention-seeking. You hated it when people were upset over Rosie, which makes your behavior in this thread all the more hypocritical. ::)
Thank you for sharing the photo with us Metal. Personally I think the model looks great, even in the new photo. Again, I can't deny that Bachmann has done a great job of capturing Oliver in his current design for the model. The new photo just posted of Oliver makes me all the more excited for him, and clearly a lot of people on here think the model was worth the wait. Can't wait to see Rheneas and the slate wagons next!
I think there is a picture of one of the Bachmann Narrow Gauge Slate Wagons w/ Load on facebook on the page "Bachmann Thomas and Friends". Just from looking at the picture of Bachmann Oliver, does anybody think that Bachmann Oliver is as big as Bachmann Mavis?
Oliver looks really wonderful! And who knows? What if his running board is painted white for his final model, like Duck? And let's not forget that Diesel has a CGI face and silver side rods as per his appearances pre-Season 6.
Even if it's not then it shouldn't be too hard to paint. As long as you're careful then it should turn out fine. Everything else is fine. They have to make it CGI because they are intended for kids and kids are familiar with the CGI series. They'd be confused and it'd cost more money if the made the running board white. You have to think about everyone. Or if you really are so lazy you want to complain about a product not being YOUR preferred style then you should look at Hornby. It's up to you. The rest of us would really appreciate it if you took your negativity elsewhere.
There's always one isn't there? The black running board was actually taken from the Railway Series for the CGI incarnation plus the CGI face looks not much different from the model version. And also as I've said before it will be easily modifiable even for someone without any scale modelling skills
Quote from: TTTEfan1992 on November 12, 2016, 02:06:45 PM
I think there is a picture of one of the Bachmann Narrow Gauge Slate Wagons w/ Load on facebook on the page "Bachmann Thomas and Friends".
I just looked up that group on Facebook and found that post, that is not the Bachmann slate car, that's the Peco one. Bachmann have not officially revealed a photo of the slate wagons yet, and if they did they would reveal all three at once and they would each come with a different slate load. It's also confirmed they won't be reusing the Peco tooling, like the previous narrow gauge stock like last years, hence the cheaper retail price. :)
Also looks like someone has a video of him running:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCGpK1Q_HD4
Other pictures and videos have been posted too
A huge thank you to the person who was generous enough to share pictures and videos of this model!
Quote from: Chaz on November 12, 2016, 03:14:59 PM
Quote from: TTTEfan1992 on November 12, 2016, 02:06:45 PM
I think there is a picture of one of the Bachmann Narrow Gauge Slate Wagons w/ Load on facebook on the page "Bachmann Thomas and Friends".
I just looked up that group on Facebook and found that post, that is not the Bachmann slate car, that's the Peco one. Bachmann have not officially revealed a photo of the slate wagons yet, and if they did they would reveal all three at once and they would each come with a different slate load. It's also confirmed they won't be reusing the Peco tooling, like the previous narrow gauge stock like last years, hence the cheaper retail price. :)
Also looks like someone has a video of him running:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCGpK1Q_HD4
Other pictures and videos have been posted too
A huge thank you to the person who was generous enough to share pictures and videos of this model!
cracking video! Oliver's even got a tail lamp! Kudos to you, Bachmann.
they've also got Troublesome Truck 5 at the show as well!
To all who want to get a glimpse of his scaling.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxFceRvXcAAXrvQ.jpg)
It comparisons with his Model and CGI, I'd say it's in the middle.
http://youtu.be/5IYrrFDr61I (http://youtu.be/5IYrrFDr61I)
Immaculate
Looks fast. Cant wait for him to show up at my doorstep, or local hobby shop, whichever comes first. Also since we now know what Oliver is going to look like, but he's supposed to come after Rosie, who doesn't, anybody know if that release date has changed?
Rosie is not coming out before Oliver, Oliver was announced first. If she was coming out in December we would have seen a photo of her by now, or on display at Trainfest with Oliver. It pretty much confirms she's coming in 2017 and the release date in the NMRA PDF was wrong. The large scale Thomas and Percy models with DCC/sound never made it either and they were due in September according to the PDF. :P
When I see him next to Duck I wonder, is it just the picture or does it looks like he is looking upwards?
Have no problems with how he looks thou, but I would like if his running board would have been white/gray to lighten him up a bit. Looks very dark next to Duck, but still fantastic.
I knew it! I was right, he was going to have a taillamp on his lamp iron on his coal bunker. I like that Bachmann added a taillamp on Oliver. I think that makes the model even better. I have no complaints with this model. This model is perfect. I can't wait to get him. Thank you very much Bachmann! ;D
Quote from: Metal on November 12, 2016, 12:07:51 PM
Found this on FB.
(https://scontent.fsnc1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15055890_1307847042590319_3998986644070742293_n.jpg?oh=d21030dd2fe225b6d649ec9a6a006ecd&oe=58D1ED9B)
Where is this?
It was the Milwaukee train fest that ran this weekend
He may mean where on Facebook, I tried reverse searching it but it didn't work unfortunately. Kinda curious about it myself now.
Oh, if he meant on Facebook, it was from one of the many Bachmann Thomas groups that people make. I'm sure it's been shared in everyone of them by now. :P
Very happy with Oliver, looking forward to seeing him finally released.
Seems like early 2017 means late March:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFCDU&P=7
Late March is the beginning of Spring, so no surprise there.
I known the not about Oliver, but I found a website called TrainWorld / TrainLand the other night abd on the Bachmann Thomas & Friends page it that has Rosie for pre-order / backordering and it said shipping date for her is on the 30/04/2017 at 10:32:00am. I must say that it is very prescie, but I would like to know if that's true or not, or is it just made up?
It all depends on Bachmann's production schedule with Rosie and how often it changes.
^ I guess so. In all honesty though, I am struggling to believe Rosie will get released before Oliver. How is that possible? Besides, this date is way after Bachamnn's estimated date of December 2016!
Oliver was announced first, he has been in production longer, his brake van is already out, he has had a photo revealed, and he was actually on display at public train shows... I don't think it could be any more obvious who is coming out first.
Considering how long we've been waiting for Oliver and how Bachmann promoted Oliver once his photo was revealed, I have a feeling this release date is a lot more serious.
Well I knew that Oliver would get released before Rosie will. Oliver was announced in 2015, Rosie was this year, 2016.
Quote from: WilsonProductions2 on December 29, 2016, 01:36:48 AM
In all honesty though, I am struggling to believe Rosie will get released before Oliver.
Quote from: WilsonProductions2 on December 29, 2016, 05:24:21 AM
Well I knew that Oliver would get released before Rosie will.
Sure you did... ::)
-Rusty
Walthers web site says OLIVER will be released on FEB.14,2017.
COOL!
UPTODAY
Willing to bet it's another false date, unfortunately... :-\
Quote from: Griffin on February 02, 2017, 08:50:49 PM
Willing to bet it's another false date, unfortunately... :-\
Maybe not this time, bear in mind that last February, bachmann unexpectedly released Toad, before the 2016 toy fair announcements. Oliver maybe the same.
That's a really good point. I hadn't considered that, fingers crossed!
Quote from: UPTODAY on February 02, 2017, 04:57:11 PM
Walthers web site says OLIVER will be released on FEB.14,2017.
COOL!
UPTODAY
Again, Walthers has been very unreliable with a release date. So I would say not to believe anything unless its from Bachmann. I've learned that after what happened a month ago with my news of Oliver and Rosie.
We're coming up on two years since he's been announced...and 3 months since we saw his promo pic.. can Bachmann give us any updates? I saw a post on twitter saying that they're just waiting for the boat from China to get here, but surely they must have an ETA?
Actually, it's been 3 months yesterday since we saw Oliver's stock photo. Hope to hear more about Bachmann Oliver soon. I'm not too concerned. It's only a matter of time now till Bachmann Oliver is released.
So my dad sent an email to ModelTrainsOnly (where we ordered Oliver for my bday) to ask if they had any updates:
"Hi Christopher -
Bachmann is now saying they are expected in late-March."
Just for the record, late March is not early 2017, but :-P
I wouldn't count on Bachmann Oliver being released on February 14, 2017 (a week from tomorrow). Bachmann Oliver will most likely be released in late March. Tower Hobbies says "Late March", and Tower Hobbies is very reliable on release dates.
China has been on Holiday since mid January, most factories are closed until the 12th I believe. Hopefully is Oliver is on that ship, it left port before the holiday. It puts a damper on what I do at work as well, we cant get our products ordered until the 12th, and we are delayed and backed up because of it.
From my Twitter feed, Bachmann Oliver and Toad size comparison
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4jR3eRWQAMYBnq.jpg)
Thoughts??
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing the picture. Did your Twitter feed say where the picture was from?
Nice image Metal. Thank you for posting that. I have a feeling that maybe a factory worker in China, who samples the final product to check they are alright, may have taken this image and posted it on Twitter, because the Bachmann Online Store still has Oliver of the status as 'coming soon'. Who ever posted it, posted a good image and I like the look of Oliver a lot. :)
This is a sure sign that Oliver will be here soon, not necessarily this month, but soon for sure. It's also nice to see that Oliver isn't as small as he is on the show currently as in the show he is scarily small. He really looks nice, especially with toad.
Sadly, Griffin, you were right, the Walther release date for Oliver for February was false.
The new picture(s) of Oliver and Toad are from the Bachmann Facebook page and have been up since Feb 1. They were fro a train show in Amherst. There are other pictures if anyone wants to take a gander.
Quote from: sean1994rail on February 16, 2017, 03:52:15 PM
Sadly, Griffin, you were right, the Walther release date for Oliver for February was false.
I hate being right sometimes. We are probably getting him middle of March.
i was not saying it in a rude way, anyone could be right.
Here's a video of Oliver running.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQqyHN2hAjn/?taken-by=hobbytownva
It also shows Rheneas and Skarloey. So you can kinda compare all of them to Thomas and Mavis.
The person who posted the video also said they'd try to get a better shot of Rheneas by tomorrow. Keep your eyes peeled.