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Title: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: InsideTrack on December 13, 2016, 04:03:21 PM
These DCC Sound-Equipped locomotives feature a sound system with whistle, chuff, and steam hiss plus moving eyes and international-style hook and loop couplers. Bring the sounds of Sodor to life with DCC Sound-Equipped Thomas & Friends™ engines and the separate-sale Large Scale sound module.
More good news for Large Scale modelers: Winston is now ready to roll too!

Item No. 91421 THOMAS the TANK ENGINE with DCC SOUND http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=879_756_777_779&products_id=6471

Item No. 91422 PERCY the SMALL ENGINE with DCC SOUND http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=879_756_777_779&products_id=6472

Item No. 44958 THOMAS & FRIENDS™ DCC SOUND MODULE http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=879_756_777_779&products_id=6473

Item No. 91406 WINSTON http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=255_426_429&products_id=6021


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: BobZ on December 16, 2016, 06:40:00 PM
I would like to upgrade my grandson's non-DCC versions of the entire fleet of Thomas & Friends locos using Bachmann's 44913 Decoder and later add the 44958 sound board. Do they have a schematic available for the new engines?


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: HLC Railroad on December 16, 2016, 10:39:06 PM
I would like to upgrade my grandson's non-DCC versions of the entire fleet of Thomas & Friends locos using Bachmann's 44913 Decoder and later add the 44958 sound board. Do they have a schematic available for the new engines?
Unfortunately there's no official way to decode them. However I know that with the Bachmann DCC ez track decoder you can run 1 non DCC train. If you want them to be DCC however you can search online tutorials. I'm sure one has been done for Thomas. Hope this helps.


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: SeanrailAnimations on December 24, 2016, 01:36:06 PM
Hope they do a DCC Sound module for diesel characters such as Devious Diesel, Mavis, Salty, Iron 'Arry and Iron Bert.


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: UPTODAY on December 31, 2016, 12:04:08 AM
Large scale Winston looks funny without a driver .Bachmann please make a driver for Winston!
UPTODAY


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: Metal on December 31, 2016, 01:26:15 AM
I'm pretty sure the Sir Topham Hatt figure should fit nicely in Winston.

http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1734


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: JD417 on December 31, 2016, 03:02:52 AM
It doesn't. He has to lay down, as the Sir Topham Hatt Figure doesn't have joints, and there's not enough room down into Winston's interior for him to stand up in.


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: Plow_Bender on January 02, 2017, 01:33:12 AM
Alright, time to educate you guys about production when it comes to large scale models.

To start off, Winston was made solely for the fact that he's a smaller model.  That's the only reason.  It's probably the same reason Bachmann announced their Speeder #96251 and Eggliners #96280.  Granted I quite like their speeder, but that's not the point of this post.  The point is that Winston (being a smaller model), was less costly than an actual locomotive such as Edward, Rosie, Diesel, etc.

If you haven't noticed (unlike the locomotives in the range), Winston is the only motive power model that doesn't have moving eyes.  This is clearly because the model is too small.  When Bachmann designed Winston, they struggled enough just to put a motor in the model.  This is why Winston's interior is the way it is.  I know for a fact that all the large scale Thomas models use the same motor, and most likely the same can be said for Winston.  Keep in mind that I'm saying "MOTOR" and not the whole gearbox.

I don't understand why you're all complaining about Winston, while many other's are as just as disappointed that Bachmann didn't announce an actual locomotive for 2016.  Besides, we all know you're just going to go out and get the model regardless how it is.  Oh, and if fitting a Bachmann Sir Topham Hatt figure in the model is really what you want, here's my advice.  Get yourself a hacksaw, cut his legs off, and then he'll be able to sit up in Winston.  Problem solved...

-Rusty


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: UPTODAY on January 09, 2017, 06:53:18 PM
Rusty,I bet you have a great layout,how about some pics????

UPTODAY


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: Plow_Bender on January 10, 2017, 10:50:31 PM
Rusty,I bet you have a great layout,how about some pics????

UPTODAY

I will carry this over to another thread Mr. UPTODAY.  I really don't want to clutter up this one with photos not related to the topic at hand.

-Rusty


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: HLC Railroad on March 11, 2017, 12:18:58 PM
Has anyone installed the sound module into Toby, James, or Emily yet, it says the sounds are installed on the chip. Also, how do you change the preloaded sounds? It says it's automatically set to Thomas but that others are available.


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: Titanic5972 on March 11, 2017, 01:28:45 PM
You will be able to change the sounds by adjusting certain CV values. Is there an instruction sheet included with the decoder? This should list CV values and say which to adjust for which character you want.


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: HLC Railroad on March 11, 2017, 07:04:27 PM
I wanted to know BEFORE I buy this.


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: ACD134 on March 12, 2017, 05:40:46 PM
You will be able to change the sounds by adjusting certain CV values. Is there an instruction sheet included with the decoder? This should list CV values and say which to adjust for which character you want.

CV 115 is character selection.  0 is for Thomas (Factory Default), 1 is for Percy, 2 is for Edward, 3 is for James, 4 is for Henry, 5 is for Gordon, 6 is for Toby, 7 is for Spencer and 8 is for Emily.

The functions offered are F1 Bell (Toby Only), F2 Long Whistle (except Toby), F3 Short Whistle (Except Toby),  F4 Blowdown.  F8 Mute.

F0 can be used for lights if you fit them (I have).


Even if you do not have a DCC layout the sound card will work as it will automatically sound the Whistle on start up and the blow the whistle at regular intervals whilst running along with a synchronised chuff when running and automatically sounds the blowdown on stopping.

Have just fitted a card in Thomas and have still to fit out Percy and James. If others are interested I'll post some photographs later showing the conversion.
You do need to provide your own 8 Ohm, 3 Watt Loudspeaker.


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: Chaz on March 12, 2017, 06:11:30 PM
Pictures would be welcome, but is there a chance you could please show us a video showing each of the different functions?  I've seen videos of Thomas and Percy with DCC and sound but I would be interested to hear James as well as well as the other functions for the other characters (if that's doable on your end).  I'm surprised no one else has done so already.

Looking back at this years announcements, kind of a shame that Diesel won't have DCC/sound available in that module yet all these other characters who won't be made in large scale do.  Maybe worth suggesting for next year? 


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: ACD134 on March 12, 2017, 08:23:38 PM
Yes I will post some photos, and I will do a video, but it won't be before next weekend as working away!

I know it will look odd, but I will demonstrate all the sounds available, however they will all be on "Thomas" with just the CV changed.

I will also show the front and rear lamps on "Thomas" change from white to red depending on direction of travel.  I know the red shouldn't really be showing when "Thomas has a train behind but in the TV Series he does appear with a red on the bunker and a train behind, so I have used "Modeller's Licence" ;D


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: InsideTrack on March 13, 2017, 03:31:01 PM
The Instructions Sheet and Quick Start Guide that come with the separate-sale DCC Sound Module has been posted to the Product Reference page, Large Scale section.

Bachmann Trains


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: DrTechDaddy on May 25, 2017, 02:39:12 PM
If I install the 44958, (or some other decoder or PWM motor driver) do I need to remove the circuit board attached to the motor, or to the polarity switch?  I'm guessing this is a capacitive circuit that might possibly short-circuit a DCC signal.

If I do disconnect the circuit board and wire power directly to the motor,
what are the consequences?

BTW, ACD134, how are photos and video coming along?


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: InsideTrack on May 31, 2017, 09:10:27 AM
A new video of the Large Scale DCC Sound-Equipped Thomas and Percy has been uploaded to our YouTube channel. The video also includes instructions on installing the separate-sale Sound Module. Enjoy. https://youtu.be/-cde3bAiNrc


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: JD417 on June 01, 2017, 01:31:09 AM
I have two questions to anyone who has bought the sound chip as a separate item. (Now forgive me if it's already been said, I haven't read through all the previous messages)

-Does the separate sale include a speaker with the chip, or would you have to buy one, as I can't seem to find any pictures of the backside of the sound chip still in the bag.
-Also, if anyone has added the sound chip to Toby, can you confirm if he has his classic series bell, or CGI bell?
Thanks :P


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: GregoryB on June 04, 2017, 11:18:11 AM
I have installed the Bachmann Thomas and Friends DCC Sound Module (44958) in Toby, James and Emily. I used the E-Z Command Dynamis IR DCC System (36505) to change their CVs (CV 115) to get the correct sounds on each including the bell on Toby. I also installed lights, front and back on Toby and forward on James, and they work well (F10 on the E-Z Command). Note that you can't program CVs with the E-Z Command Digital Control System (44932) - you need the Dynamis to change CVs. Also note that you need to supply the speakers and LEDs separately. I also changed Toby's direction by changing CV 29 from 6 to 7 because I apparently wired the direction backwards and didn't want to re-open and the polarity switch does not function in DCC. They all work well in analog mode also with all the correct sounds and lights. My only remaining problem is that on Toby both the forward and reverse lights come on together instead of based on travel direction. I'm looking for a CV that can correct this.


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: Titanic5972 on June 04, 2017, 11:15:53 PM
Would be great to see a video showing all the different sounds Greg. Be interesting to compare them.


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: andyb on June 14, 2018, 04:53:35 PM
It seems strange to me that sound-enabled Thomas comes with a factory fitted speaker, but when I enquired with Bachmann Uk about purchasing for the after-market sound module, I'm told you have to source your own...

Can anyone recommend something suitable? I have large scale Thomas, Percy and James

Cheers

Andy


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: thomasgleek444 on June 19, 2018, 01:04:40 AM
I have installed the Bachmann Thomas and Friends DCC Sound Module (44958) in Toby, James and Emily. I used the E-Z Command Dynamis IR DCC System (36505) to change their CVs (CV 115) to get the correct sounds on each including the bell on Toby. I also installed lights, front and back on Toby and forward on James, and they work well (F10 on the E-Z Command). Note that you can't program CVs with the E-Z Command Digital Control System (44932) - you need the Dynamis to change CVs. Also note that you need to supply the speakers and LEDs separately. I also changed Toby's direction by changing CV 29 from 6 to 7 because I apparently wired the direction backwards and didn't want to re-open and the polarity switch does not function in DCC. They all work well in analog mode also with all the correct sounds and lights. My only remaining problem is that on Toby both the forward and reverse lights come on together instead of based on travel direction. I'm looking for a CV that can correct this.
i know this post is a bit old, but would you mind making a video of all the sounds, i been wanting to hear what they all sound like


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: Chaz on July 21, 2018, 03:09:11 AM
Well, although not a video made by the earlier poster, someone finally uploaded a video showcasing the sound from James Toby and Emily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB-4xBWMXX4

Honestly, I am blown away by the sound quality that is offered to these engines, it's a shame that they are not available with DCC and sound already installed.

An added bonus is that Toby has his model era bell included as opposed to his bell that came in the CG era that was originally Flora's bell.  Little details like this are always nice and welcomed.

It's a shame that we do not have sound available for all the other engines besides Thomas in HO, or DCC in the HO range as a whole.  Personally, I would welcome it with loving arms if we get decent sound quality such as this.


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: thomasgleek444 on August 06, 2018, 08:28:02 PM
I just came here to post that same video XD since I am the one who recorded it lol


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: Chaz on August 06, 2018, 11:59:14 PM
Oh wow, small world!  Definitely appreciated you taking the time to put the video together.  I showed this to a handful of other Thomas fans on a Facebook group and they really enjoyed it.


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: Plow_Bender on August 07, 2018, 01:09:37 PM
I just came here to post that same video XD since I am the one who recorded it lol

Really impressed with your work as well.  I've been wanting to hear the James, Emily, and Toby's sounds ever since I watched Bachmann's video on the DCC sound Thomas equipped engines.  What really impressed me was that Toby was actually given a bell as I was afraid he would have just been given a random whistle.  Considering not many people have done this modification (or at least done it and posted a video), it's nice to see someone has finally made this available to the public so we can see and/or hear the sounds offered.

Out of curiosity, how much did you have on average into installing DCC sound into each model?  I looked into prices on that myself, but I was looking at almost $150-$200 each, and that was just if I were to do it myself without paying my hobby shop to install everything.  I actually found it cheaper just to sell off my existing Thomas and Percy and put that money towards buying the DCC sound models instead.  I'm hoping Bachmann announces the other characters with DCC sound in 2019, but if they don't I'll probably end up installing it myself.

One last thing I'm curious about is if you have any plans on installing lights on your models?  I know the sound module does offer the option to do so and I think it would really make the models stand out that much more.  I know Chaz had this done with his HO models of Thomas, Percy, James, and Toby years back.  I'd probably be tempted to do the same with my Large Scale models when I get around to having DCC sound on them, but I'm not completely sure yet.  Anyways, thanks again for the video and keep up the good work. ;)

-Rusty


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: thomasgleek444 on August 14, 2018, 07:51:09 PM
I just came here to post that same video XD since I am the one who recorded it lol

Really impressed with your work as well.  I've been wanting to hear the James, Emily, and Toby's sounds ever since I watched Bachmann's video on the DCC sound Thomas equipped engines.  What really impressed me was that Toby was actually given a bell as I was afraid he would have just been given a random whistle.  Considering not many people have done this modification (or at least done it and posted a video), it's nice to see someone has finally made this available to the public so we can see and/or hear the sounds offered.

Out of curiosity, how much did you have on average into installing DCC sound into each model?  I looked into prices on that myself, but I was looking at almost $150-$200 each, and that was just if I were to do it myself without paying my hobby shop to install everything.  I actually found it cheaper just to sell off my existing Thomas and Percy and put that money towards buying the DCC sound models instead.  I'm hoping Bachmann announces the other characters with DCC sound in 2019, but if they don't I'll probably end up installing it myself.

One last thing I'm curious about is if you have any plans on installing lights on your models?  I know the sound module does offer the option to do so and I think it would really make the models stand out that much more.  I know Chaz had this done with his HO models of Thomas, Percy, James, and Toby years back.  I'd probably be tempted to do the same with my Large Scale models when I get around to having DCC sound on them, but I'm not completely sure yet.  Anyways, thanks again for the video and keep up the good work. ;)

-Rusty
I was able to find the decoders all over the place like eBay and random online hobby shops, not really ever more than $100 each (excluding the shipping) you just need to make sure that you have all the right tools to do this.
for the speakers, I just got some off of Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078KXQG17/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and one day I might install lighting, it would just take a lot of drilling into the "lights" that are on each engine now, and then maybe I would also put some lamps in places where they should be

however, right now I'm trying to find the tools, time, and money, to make a custom Edward, Gordon, and Henry. (because their sounds are on the sound module as well)


Title: Re: LARGE SCALE DCC SOUND-EQUIPPED THOMAS & FRIENDS LOCOS ARE HERE!
Post by: Chaz on August 14, 2018, 10:20:18 PM
I could definitely picture Edward being an easier one to pull off compared to Gordon and Henry, especially when the parts for James are readily available online, which is similar to what N scale modelers in Japan have done when making Edward.  Only instead of buying two James models, with Bachmann, you can easily buy the parts online.