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Title: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: TrainFan97 on May 12, 2017, 05:17:35 AM
Now that the first trailer is out, here is the official thread to discuss your thoughts on Journey Beyond Sodor!

However, there is a rumor that BoCo is supposed to return in this special, when there's no actual proof of it happening. I'll believe it when I see it. If that doesn't happen, then maybe someone was trolling us. There is always Season 21 though. We haven't seen returnee characters reintroduced in a season since Season 18, excluding Daisy's minor cameo in Thomas the Babysitter from Season 19.

This is the first time we see tankers with faces since Season 4, excluding Philip's fantasy of a tanker with Gordon's face in the last special.

Oliver and Duck appear to be in there for the fanservice, once again... which is really getting old...

Looks like the engines now move their bodies around when talking, like from Chuggington.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: MeganekkoFury1126 on May 12, 2017, 11:48:14 AM
Considering it's been 3-4 years since Duck and Oliver have returned, I'm now just used to seeing them. It's not really different from how they were used in seasons 3-7.

As far as BoCo, I'm not counting on him returning in this movie, but maybe they'll do what they did with Daisy in Lost Treasure and have him pop up at the end.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on May 12, 2017, 11:07:55 PM
The trailer of this special is rather impressive. I do like the overall animation with the exception of the engines bouncing around while communicating. Two things I do want to touch upon are in regards to Boco and Sixteen. I personally believe that Boco will not play a major role in the special. Instead, he'll most likely have the role that Daisy had in SLOTLT. However, the one I am very interested in is Sixteen. I'm not 100% sure that he is going to be in this special as I am trusting the words of someone on Twitter. Nevertheless, I do have a crazy prediction. Once Thomas and/or James reaches the Steelworks, and meets Hurricane and Frankie, wouldn't be interesting if Hurricane and/or Frankie told Thomas and/or James about the history of Sixteen at the Steelworks? It would be as if they are retelling the story "Cab Over Wheels" which could somehow be the reason why Hurricane and Frankie are not letting Thomas and James leave the Steelworks. Again, I am aware that this is a crazy prediction. As a result, please do not "roast" me about this. However, I am looking forward to hearing what you guys think.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: TrainFan97 on May 13, 2017, 01:19:20 AM
Trivia:
Frankie is the first female diesel to be introduced in the TV Series since Mavis in the third season.

That can go in Frankie's page in the Wikia.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: MeganekkoFury1126 on May 13, 2017, 08:25:15 AM
I'm not sure how there's a rumor that Sixteen will appear...that feels a little too far fetched.

If he does appear, however, it means he'll be the first Christopher Awdry character to be rendered into CGI.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: JLK2707 on May 13, 2017, 09:48:32 AM
I think it looks just so cool! I love how they now have an assortment of troublesome trucks rather than just the open wagons!  :) Also, does anybody else here think that they will bring the TAR tanker wagons into CGI?
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: donaldthescottishtwin on May 13, 2017, 09:53:49 AM
If Sixteen turns out to be in this special than i'll interested.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: Titanic5972 on May 13, 2017, 01:19:49 PM
Rumours come from anywhere, no matter how unlikely they may be. Just takes one person to say "hey I heard such and such will happen" and then it flashes around like you wouldn't believe.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: Metal on July 28, 2017, 12:50:49 PM
Sneak peek for the Journey Beyond Sodor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w056a2GQ5MQ

This seems more promising than the trailer. The animation and cinematography is really impressive in the beginning.
Thoughts??
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: Titanic5972 on July 28, 2017, 04:22:28 PM
Might watch the English version when it's released but I'm not gonna be in a rush to see it. There was a point that the series was getting back to its traditional roots, but seems now to be going wildly wrong again.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: MeganekkoFury1126 on July 28, 2017, 11:18:38 PM
I still need to get used to that rather uncanny rocking motion animation, which fortunately isn't overused on the characters minus the troublesome trucks and the experimental engines. The trucks especially doing that feels REALLY uncanny.

I'm not sure if anyone realized that is Commissioner Loeb from Batman Begins/The Dark Knight as Beresford. But about Beresford himself, I actually like him. He's definitely a lot more interesting than I was expecting, and Colin McFarlane does a great job as him.

I do think Andrew Brenner has got a better grasp on what this special's story should focus on compared to last year's The Great Race.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: sean1994rail on July 29, 2017, 11:50:07 AM
I think the rocking animation suits the troublesome trucks very well IMO, especially in the song 'Who's Thomas?'.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: JLK2707 on July 31, 2017, 08:56:32 AM
Hey, does anybody know that the CGI salt vans suck as they are just modified versions of the ventilated vans but with pointy roofs and faces?
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: MeganekkoFury1126 on July 31, 2017, 03:33:24 PM
Is that a fact or just an opinion?...
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: Cheeky_ULP on July 31, 2017, 09:08:51 PM
Quote from: JLK2707 on July 31, 2017, 08:56:32 AM
Hey, does anybody know that the CGI salt vans suck as they are just modified versions of the ventilated vans but with pointy roofs and faces?
They are incorrect and inaccurate to the model salt vans, but "sucks" is just a poor mans word for nonconstructive criticism.

Unfortunately, I see Bachmann making the salt vans in the large scale range, and using these for a reference.  ::)
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: JLK2707 on August 01, 2017, 03:15:42 AM
Yeah, but I wonder why they would. Also, why do you think that Jam filled productions chose to modify the vent vans into inaccurate salt wagons rather than basing them off the proper model salt vans?
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: AJW98Productions on August 01, 2017, 09:20:15 AM
Quote from: JLK2707 on August 01, 2017, 03:15:42 AM
Also, why do you think that Jam filled productions chose to modify the vent vans into inaccurate salt wagons rather than basing them off the proper model salt vans?
I would assume modifying a pre-existing Vent Van render, would cost less money than building an accurate Salt Van render from scratch. I also imagine this modification would take significantly less time than building an entirely new render from scratch.

As much as it's unfortunate about that...I must add that the Thomas franchise isn't new to poorly scaled wagons. Anyone remember the "laughing van" in "A Close Shave"? :D

~Alex
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: JLK2707 on August 01, 2017, 09:30:17 PM
Yes. I do. That was just cool.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: Titanic5972 on August 09, 2017, 05:08:34 AM
Well I've just watched Journey Beyond Sodor. The engines look ridiculous bouncing all over the place while they talk and sing. Absolutely stupid.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: donaldthescottishtwin on August 09, 2017, 07:44:39 AM
Quote from: Titanic5972 on August 09, 2017, 05:08:34 AM
Well I've just watched Journey Beyond Sodor. The engines look ridiculous bouncing all over the place while they talk and sing. Absolutely stupid.

All this. Soon as I saw James bouncing while singing I switched off. This is ridiculous this ain't Chuggington.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: JLK2707 on August 09, 2017, 09:01:35 AM
Yeah. The salt vans were poorly designed! :o
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: MeganekkoFury1126 on August 09, 2017, 10:34:46 AM
Gotta love how all these complaints don't affect the special's overall quality at all.  ::)
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: Cheeky_ULP on August 09, 2017, 10:38:43 AM
Quote from: MeganekkoFury1126 on August 09, 2017, 10:34:46 AM
Gotta love how all these complaints don't affect the special's overall quality at all.  ::)
Visuals are very much a part of the quality of a movie.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on August 09, 2017, 10:51:51 AM
Hi all. I wanted to apologize for posting those crazy predictions regarding Boco and Sixteen that were clearly not true. I feel guilty as it may gotten many of you excited. After all, it would have been nice to see Sixteen in this special as the Steelworks played a major role. However, there ended up being no sign of him. With that said, I do want to share my overall opinion of the special. The overall plot was intriguing as it felt a lot shorter than 70 minutes. The Troublesome Trucks were hilarious and the songs were catchy. The only two things that bothered me were the excessive bouncing (which has already been mentioned a thousand times), and the amount of times there were "sudden point switches". This is one aspect of the CGI Series in general that bothers me and it has been seen way too many times. Overall, I think that this special was better than The Great Race. However, Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure still stands at the top of my list.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: MeganekkoFury1126 on August 09, 2017, 10:54:26 AM
Quote from: Sparks on August 09, 2017, 10:38:43 AM
Quote from: MeganekkoFury1126 on August 09, 2017, 10:34:46 AM
Gotta love how all these complaints don't affect the special's overall quality at all.  ::)
Visuals are very much a part of the quality of a movie.
That I can understand, but it's not the absolute most important part.

I mean, the Great Race had better visuals, but a lousily executed story with too much filler and wasted potential.

Journey Beyond Sodor has a far better focused story with great characters, albeit with somewhat uncanny animation.

I agree that Lost Treasure is, in my opinion, still the overall best feature, but this is better than the Great Race by a landslide.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: TrainFan97 on August 09, 2017, 04:52:03 PM
There ended up being no sign of BoCo in this special, which was disappointing, but I never believed he was returning there.

BoCo may not have returned in this special, but it's still possible in Season 21, since we know Terence is returning. The first time returnee characters are PROPERLY re-introduced in a season since Season 18. I've waited YEARS for BoCo, but there's still no sign of him.

George the steamroller would also make a great returnee. He hasn't appeared since The Great Discovery, and hasn't spoke since Season 5. BoCo hasn't appeared at all since Season 5.
Title: Re: Journey Beyond Sodor thread
Post by: thomasj219 on August 09, 2017, 10:00:18 PM
Thomas fans seem to really like to complain. I thought this special was wonderful. I honestly didn't mind them bouncing around. It added more personality to them, and it wasn't too ridiculous, they only used it a lot in the songs. Which I'm ok with.

The story was great, had great messages. The script was clever and funny, and the songs were actually good. I loved the role the trucks played and the fact that the plots are becoming more varied.

It's honestly the most I've enjoyed a Thomas film since Magic Railroad.

And not for nothing, do you remember this time back in 2010, 2011?

We would have killed for something like this. I for one have no problem accepting a few cartoony elements if the story and characters continue to move in the direction they seem to be.

Pick your battles folks. And know which ones are solely your egos.... ::)