I do not know much about Trains, my husband has Lionels, the O gauge? I was thinking it would be nice to get our 6 year old something else, I was thinking of this G gauge, but know nothing about them at all. I am seeking advice on what is Best for children, and train sets. I didn't know if these Bachmanns are metal or plastic, how durable they are, are these considered "LGB" or is that another manuacturer? As you can see, I need to learn a little here. Help ! All advice greatly appreciated, Thanks ???
As a general rule, the younger the child, the bigger the gauge is a good rule of thumb. Your husband's Lionel would be good for a six year old. I had Lionels at that age. Two suggestions would be the Lionel Polar Express or their Hogwart's Express, though I have no idea the cost of either set.
LGB is a brand name - it's the initials of the German words for "Very Big Trains," but it's also used as a catch all for any large scale model trains.
Current Bachmann trains are of first rate quality.
Gene
Thank you for your reply...Why do you think Lionels are more popular than G gauge? OK another question, what makes this LGB brand so much more expensive than Bachmanns? MY husband and 6 yr old have about 4 Lionel engines already, I just think instead of buying another set like that, we should get him a G gauge set, just my opionon of coarse. HUsband prefers Metal engines, does Bachman make Metal engines, or is everythign plastic these days? You say "Current" Bachmans are 1st rate quality. Generally, what is metal on thier newer train sets? If you know off hand? I seen some on Ebay for Buy it nows at $155 , $20 shipping, I was considering one of those. Thanks for all your help
I just emailed a Ebay seller about a Bachmann Train set, he answered me like this ......"These are not suitable. They are rated for eight and up, but I think that's too young. They have MANY small parts and delicate details. these are mostly used by adults."... So I guess not everyone thinks G gauge is Ok for kids. I wonder if this is the same recommendation for O gauge trains-Lionels.
For younger kids, I'd stick with Lionel. The set I got for Christmas in '58, I still have. The loco is still going strong.
I am a big time Bachmann fan, but, as previously mentioned, they have a lot of small detail parts. This is great for older kids and adults who can appreciate the detail. Younger folks just want to run them fast and furious.
Maybe Bachmann's Thomas line would be good for younger kids.
With our kids, our experience is that most any detail that can break will break. So part of the decision could be cost. In that you will not want to regret spending all that money on something, that you will be unhappy with after it has been really played with. It is amazing what will break. Maybe our kids were just rougher on things than other people's kids.
But I think you definitely should get some trains. All of us in my family have enjoyed electric model trains.
All the best,
Charles
Large scale trains would be a good choice, particularly if you have room outside for a possible garden layout in the future. Marklin makes metal trains that run on G-gauge track so a garden layout would let Dad run some highly detailed (but relatively fragile) Bachmann or other plastic trains outdoors too. The Marklin trains use a smaller scale (1/32 full size) compared to Bachmann's 1/20 full size trains, but the track is the same. Indoors, the slightly smaller Marklin trains take up less space or, putting it the other way around, you can put more trains in the same space. Clicking on the link below will take you to the Marklin large scale website.
http://www.eurorailhobbies.com/erh/eurorailhobbies.asp?PageID=53 (http://www.eurorailhobbies.com/erh/eurorailhobbies.asp?PageID=53)
Thank you for all of your advice, we are still deciding ! But nice to hear about these Marklins, they sound like just what I was hoping to find. Metal, bigger than Lionels, I know he wants smoke for whatever I get, and I personally want the lights and sounds too. ANy more advice, please reply, I will keep checking here.
http://trainworld.com/lgb/newlgbsets&startersets.htm
Actually, LGB are very robust IMHO. My first large scale set I got when I was 8(14 now), with a German steamer and 2 coaches, and I don't think anything has broken to date. The set came with smoke and sound as well.
Dear Friends,
A big Thank You! and Merry Christmas! to Bachmann and our dear Mr. Bach-Man for allowing this thread. Just another testimony to their good intentions and dediction to the sport of model rail roading!! Three Cheers!
Best Wishes!
Jack
Agreed -- if money isn't a concern, DEFINITELY go with G-scale (1:24 scale), G-Gauge equipment, preferably LGB.
LGB equipment is not only the best quality (plastic or metal) but it's very attractive and well worth the price. Some will hate me for saying this, but Lionel is overpriced, ugly (awkward preportions), and has that ugly non-authentic third rail.
Bachmann makes excellent G-Scale trains, too.
If you're already established in O scale, however, your child is old enough for On30", that is, O scale that runs on HO scale track. But I still think it would be better to stick with large scale, G-scale and G-gauge train sets. They are attractive and flawless and will certainly last forever.
overrun,
What no one has told you is that, regardless of size, there are toy trains and then there are model trains. Some products made by all of these companies, in all of these different sizes are more basic, have less fragile detail and are intended for younger people to be able to handle without damage.
Other products are more detailed, more expensive, and really intended for more serious adult use as models, not toys.
I have been in this hobby since 1968, and worked in several hobby shops over the years, and the anticdotal comments of some not withstanding, HO trains, or On30 trains, are not for 6 year olds unless they will always be closely supervised.
O gauge items from Lionel and other companies that are aimed at the train set market are you best bet. Next would be the G gauge items aimed at the Christmas/set market.
I would expect some "accidents" in any case unless they are closely supervised or you have already trained them to be neurotic little property owners.
It is usually about age 12 when boys develope the dexterity and patience for HO scale or other more detailed "model" trains. Not to mention the fact that that is also the age at which any true interest in trains as a life long hobby is likely to become apparent.
A good hobby shop is the best place to sort out these differences, but they are becoming few and far between these days.
Sheldon
I tend to agree with Sheldon ... but I have never worked with anything larger than Lionel 'O' scale.
Setting aside 'realism' as in prototypical model railroading, I really believe that for a 6 year old, something that can take lots and lots of 'bangs' and 'hard usage' and still get 'back on track and run' is the ideal.
Since I don't know about anything above 'O' scale I defer to other who do know ... but this is for a 6 year old boy, and I personally can think of nothing more discouraging that a beautifully detailed and expensive large model that slowly (or quickly) looses parts and perhaps breaks down from 'six year old' hard usage.
I also can think of nothing more discouraging to a 6 year old then constantly being told 'don't play so rough with that train!'
While I am not a Lionel fan, they do make a large variety of engines and equipment that, though not prototyical scale, are rugged. I would seriously consider the 'rugged' aspect more than anything else.
Have a wonderful and happy holiday whatever your choice may be!
lann
When I was six I managed to wreck(have accidentswith) just about every train I got.
I managed to wreck a real nice American Flyer Santa Fe Passenger train set. Ruined the motor, got scratches and dents all over it, broke the couplers, bent the track, and lord only knows what else. At eight my brother and I blew up a boxcar with firecrackers! We really caught heck over that one.
When my grandson turned four, we got him some Thomas trains with the wooden track. three years later he still enjoys it and loves to get new pieces. He makes all kinds of track plans and switches cars, and now has some of the motorized engines. It seems to me that it has had a great play value, is hard to break, and stands up to heavy use, but most of all is very educational.
Hmmmm, maybe I'll blow up another boxcar for my 68th birthday next year!!
Have a Great Christmas everyone and stay young at heart!!!!
My personal recommendation for a train set for the six year old would be a Bachmann G gauge. When I ran a train store in a local mall, we had a play area for wooden Thomas and Brio trains. Nearby the play area, we had a Christmas tree set up with a Bachmann G gauge train set running around it. I was amazed at how rugged the set was. Several times I looked over and saw a toddler trying to sit on the engine! While it knocked the train off track, the only damage done was to cars whose trucks were broken by the weight of the toddlers... but the engines made it through. (I am specifically referring to the little tank engine.)
Actually, the best recommendation I'd make is to buy two sets. The price point (on the street) is so much better with Bachmann that you can buy two for about what one LGB costs. And the lifetime guarantee and great service policy leaves you with an operating engine, even if the other is off getting repaired. And if the train breaks from real abuse, the replacement cost is much more reasonable with Bachmann. Also, as far as the cars go, there is very little difference in the cars form LGB ad Bachmann, except that the LGB ones are much more expensive.
While I don't expect to see my earliest Bachmann products (70's and 80's) get passed down to generations, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see my grandkids (maybe someday!!) playing with most any of my current stuff.
- Mike S.
You can find plenty of 6 year-old friendly g gauge sets. They have plastic tracks (no risk of electric shock) and a battery powered engine controlled by a simple forward, reverse remote. Lionel makes a Polar Express set that has plastic track and I assume it works the same way. Its not very expensive too!(For a train anyway.) Look for it on Target.com or at target it self, they have it cheap.
If you want a real model you can't go wrong with a Life-Like starter set (thats what I started with). They're great, they're durable, easy to run, and best of all cheap and replaceable.
-Good luck, PRR ;)
No. If your son is into trains don't bother with a Cheapo life like set or a G Gauge Polar Express. There is no risk of electric shock from the rails. Get a LGB or Bachmann G scale starter set since it will last a while and your son will learn to be careful with things he will cherish.
The Lionel Cheapo G scale set has a much greater chance of breaking than a Bachmann or LGB.
Dear Friends,
Really good replies.
My two centavos: After seeing the Williams stuff being run at a local train club, I would recommend a Williams set or engines/rolling stock. They run beautifully, are durable, easily repaired, look nice and are a great value. Too, they are well discounted, especially the last day of a train show, e.g. the York, PA area show. I intend to get a switcher for my 6 year old who has been running the Lionel Polar Express and the MTH Pennsylvania passenger sets, without a hitch, since he was 5 years old. I do not think you would be unhappy with that.
Best Wishes!
Jack
Williams O gauge equipment is an excellent choice for your son!
http://www.williamstrains.com/HTML/TL_NW2switcher.htm
http://www.williamstrains.com/HTML/TL_ALCO-FA1.htm
http://www.williamstrains.com/HTML/TL_BL-2.htm
http://www.williamstrains.com/HTML/TL_GP9.htm
http://www.williamstrains.com/HTML/TL_O-27Streamliners.htm
If you wish to continue in O Gauge I would highly recommend Williams. Williams are very robust and should run for a LONG time!
Another possibility for a youngster - especially if price is a consideration - is Ready Made toys (readymadetoys.com).
I only have one of their "Beeps" so have limited experience with them but read many favorable comments on an O gauge related website.
Ned
Ok, one more opinion.
My daughter is 5 and runs my trains all the time. I have G scale Bachmann and LGB under the Christmas tree that she plays with all the time. Although she has trouble placing the engines and cars on the track by herself she has mastered running the trains. She knows not to place anything on the track and she must stop the train before switching directions.
And I absolutely love 'playing' trains with her. I'm sure your husband would enjoy spending time with his son doing the same. He will get to play with some cool toys and build a lifetime of memories.
Regardless of what train you purchase for your son (G or O scale) he will still need some superivision. Remember that trains require electricity so you may not want your 6 year old plugging in the power pack. I beleive this is the reason for the minimum age on train sets.
Quote from: Guilford Guy on December 09, 2007, 11:10:55 AM
No. If your son is into trains don't bother with a Cheapo life like set or a G Gauge Polar Express. There is no risk of electric shock from the rails. Get a LGB or Bachmann G scale starter set since it will last a while and your son will learn to be careful with things he will cherish.
The Lionel Cheapo G scale set has a much greater chance of breaking than a Bachmann or LGB.
When they said there is no chance of electric shock they lied. I would know.
Quote from: PRRThomas11 on December 13, 2007, 05:08:30 PM
Quote from: Guilford Guy on December 09, 2007, 11:10:55 AM
No. If your son is into trains don't bother with a Cheapo life like set or a G Gauge Polar Express. There is no risk of electric shock from the rails. Get a LGB or Bachmann G scale starter set since it will last a while and your son will learn to be careful with things he will cherish.
The Lionel Cheapo G scale set has a much greater chance of breaking than a Bachmann or LGB.
When they said there is no chance of electric shock they lied. I would know.
Fine, there is little to no risk of electric shock unless you put your tongue to the rails, and even then its very minor. Voltage for HO trains is usually less than 16, voltage for G Gauge Trains are below 24, same for O.
I have never tried licking the rails, just 9 V batteries.
The electric trains have a really big advantage. It is hard for a model train to use up all the electricity from the wall outlet. It is always ready to run and my family and I have worlds more fun than with batteries or push power.
Like Hobo said, plugging things into the wall can be dangerous, but that applies to all the stuff we plug in. And the caution needed. And a damaged controller could be dangerous, which is like many other things we plug-in etc.
Have fun
Charles
Hi there. Just going to put in my two cents worth as I feel this is an interesting subject. When I was seven my parents went away for a short time and left me with what I wanted more than anything, an electric train set. After much searching and looking they chose Marklin and although I now model with other brands that train set did stirling service for many many years. It was well made, reliable and almost indestructable but you must also realise that it was something that I had wanted and even at that age I looked after it and it lasted many many years. Maybe its another brand you could look at. Cheers rob.