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Title: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: ksivils on January 30, 2018, 12:55:17 PM
I've seen a couple of posts on On30 message boards there is a new Bachmann 2-6-0 (0-6-0 according to some) yet I have seen no photos to prove the existence of said model.

Any truth to the rumors?


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: dutchbuilder on January 30, 2018, 04:56:06 PM
What's Neat This Week Video Podcast #24.5 Special Edition January 29th 2018.
Anouncement of new 0n30 0-6-0 .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhLCak2hUjI
Ken Patterson will air a review in March.
 
Ton


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: JRT on January 31, 2018, 07:01:18 PM
When will the new 0-6-0 w/tender be available?  Is there a price yet, and if so, what is it?

-JRT



Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: dutchbuilder on February 01, 2018, 03:59:21 AM
When will the new 0-6-0 w/tender be available?  Is there a price yet, and if so, what is it?

-JRT



I think your question is premature, there is a pre production engineering model , thats it for the time being.
About the last part of your question......did you actually have a look at the link I put up?....

Ton


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: JRT on February 01, 2018, 03:07:42 PM
Yes, I did look at your posted link, but my computer doesn't have sound.  If someone said the price, I couldn't hear it.

According to another forum, the 0-6-0's have been produced and packaged -- so they should be ready to sell pretty soon?

-Jim


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: dutchbuilder on February 01, 2018, 03:35:21 PM
Ok Jim, no price mentioned only that it will be the new one from Bachmann 0n30.

Ton
 


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: hminky on February 01, 2018, 04:32:02 PM
I guess a shortened pilot with no leading wheels and a small 4-4-0 tender is new?

Really?

Harold


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: p51 on February 01, 2018, 07:58:53 PM
I must admit, it does look like a slightly modified 2-6-0 they already had with the 4-4-0s tender...
Still, anything in On30 shows that Bachmann hasn't given up on the gauge like so many people say they have.


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: Ken Clark on February 04, 2018, 10:26:37 AM
  Bachmann are also releasing freight & passenger cars lettered for the White Pass & Yukon
Railway.

  Ken C
   GWN


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: JRT on February 05, 2018, 11:55:21 AM
Sure would be nice if Bachmann released a WP&Y diesel to go with those cars.

-JRT


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: Ken Clark on February 05, 2018, 02:01:08 PM
  JRT

  Afraid the closest you will find are kits of the 90 Class and 100 Class in S scale NG,
produced by "Railmaster Exports" in New Zealand. I have 3 of there 90 Class, one was converted to a B unit with a second end casting from them. At the time I wish I had also bought the DL 535 (100 Class) the LHS had.

  Ken C
   GWN


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: p51 on February 05, 2018, 05:21:46 PM
Sure would be nice if Bachmann released a WP&Y diesel to go with those cars.
That'd be new tooling, for a prototype that hardly anyone else ever had.
Now, they could easily get an authentic WP&Y locomotive out there tomorrow if they wanted, by re-lettering one of their 4-6-0s as a WP&Y locomotive, either #10 or 14. Both came up from the ET&WNC in 1943 and worked one winter there, before being shipped back to the NP shops in Tacoma for a complete rebuild. Both were heavily damaged in a roundhouse fire at the end of the war, though.
(http://www.wpyphotos.com/late-steam/10-14/10inAK.jpg)


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: Ken Clark on February 05, 2018, 05:43:47 PM
  Actually there were Shovel nose version's operating in South America before the WP&Y got theirs and the the DL 535 operated also on NG line's in South America, rode behind a few of them.
   I would sooner see the Baldwin-Whitcomb 2&1/2 foot gauge units built for service in Chile
for Braden Copper Company.

  Ken C
   GWN


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: USAF_Andy on February 25, 2018, 09:59:30 AM
Sure would be nice if Bachmann released a WP&Y diesel to go with those cars.

-JRT

I asked a Bachmann rep at the WGH show in Charlotte about this.  The short of it is, Aint gonna happen...  You are going to be better off finding a suitable HO chassis, and 3d print a body.  He said the market wouldn't support it.  I disagree, but it is what it is...


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: p51 on February 28, 2018, 07:25:05 PM
[He said the market wouldn't support it.  I disagree...
I don't. A WP&Y diesel is a very specific piece of rolling stock, and very large (in a On30 market where many want stuff as short as possible).
Hey, I've ridden the WP&Y twice and would love to have a On30 version of one of their locomotives (though it'd never fit in the theme of my WW2-era ET&WNC layout), but I agree with the Bachmann person who told you it wouldn't sell.
"Hey, wouldn't it be cool if they made..." usually translates to, "I want one, so shouldn't a bunch of other people?"
No, there are so many other things that'd sell better than a WP&Y diesel would in On30 (or any other scale, for that matter).


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: USAF_Andy on March 18, 2018, 10:34:00 PM
[He said the market wouldn't support it.  I disagree...
I don't. A WP&Y diesel is a very specific piece of rolling stock, and very large (in a On30 market where many want stuff as short as possible).
Hey, I've ridden the WP&Y twice and would love to have a On30 version of one of their locomotives (though it'd never fit in the theme of my WW2-era ET&WNC layout), but I agree with the Bachmann person who told you it wouldn't sell.
"Hey, wouldn't it be cool if they made..." usually translates to, "I want one, so shouldn't a bunch of other people?"
No, there are so many other things that'd sell better than a WP&Y diesel would in On30 (or any other scale, for that matter).

I use as an example of the LGB version...  They have sold bajillions of them in a bunch of different variants.  Bachmann could make sets to sell them at the gift shop to all those cruise passengers...  As for one paint scheme road using them, I reply with "So?".  Far be it from Bachmann to slap a non prototype paint scheme onto one of these.  Plausible, Durango and Silverton, Cumbres and Toltec, SP and D&RGW.  A little far fetched, EBT or Tweetsie.  If it was designed with a fairly easy conversion to On3 possible, I think it could really do well.  I know it won't happen, I am fine with that.  I just think that it could really rock the market.  They have made some really random stuff over the years.


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: p51 on March 19, 2018, 02:09:38 PM
I use as an example of the LGB version...  They have sold bajillions of them in a bunch of different variants.  Bachmann could make sets to sell them at the gift shop to all those cruise passengers...  As for one paint scheme road using them, I reply with "So?".  Far be it from Bachmann to slap a non prototype paint scheme onto one of these.  Plausible, Durango and Silverton, Cumbres and Toltec, SP and D&RGW.  A little far fetched, EBT or Tweetsie.  If it was designed with a fairly easy conversion to On3 possible, I think it could really do well.  I know it won't happen, I am fine with that.  I just think that it could really rock the market.  They have made some really random stuff over the years.
Two issues with that:
1. LGB sells a bajillion of just about everything, world-wide. Bachmann's On30 has nowhere near that kind of customer base.
2. WP&Y doesn't sell everything offered to them. I've talked some vendors of RR stuff that thought they'd market their stuff through the Skagway gift shop, and even got tooling underway, then got a big, "Nah, we're not interested," in response. It happens more than you'd think for items that people like us would assume would sell.


Title: Re: Rumor has it there's a new 2-6-0?
Post by: Terry Toenges on March 19, 2018, 02:43:23 PM
I would guess that some people doing On30 have no interest in diesels at all. I don't have anything to back that up. I'm just guessing. Maybe p51's statement could work the other way, too - "If I don't want one, a bunch of other people probably don't want one either."