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Title: rumor has it
Post by: choochoopapa on May 24, 2018, 12:52:03 PM
I hope I am wrong, internet rumor is bachmann to drop on30 line. or maybe sell off the line.
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: ebtnut on May 24, 2018, 02:21:59 PM
With Lee Riley gone, I would not be shocked if that were the case. 
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: Hunt on May 24, 2018, 02:34:28 PM

Post the link(s) to the source of your info.


Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: jkemp on May 24, 2018, 04:01:43 PM
I'm curious to see the source also.

Mostly, I'm curious if it is something actually new, or the same old stuff that has been floating around the last couple of years.

You're probably aware, Bachmann just released a new-to-us 0-6-0 and several new cars.  I always appreciate more, but I'm happy for what ever attention, and new product releases.

I'm not following the HOn3 world as closely as I used to, but its been some time since I've seen anything new from BlackStone.
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: Terry Toenges on May 24, 2018, 04:06:07 PM
So now we have a rumor started from another rumor. ;D
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: jkemp on May 24, 2018, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: Terry Toenges on May 24, 2018, 04:06:07 PM
So now we have a rumor started from another rumor. ;D

Hello Terry,

Not sure if this was pointed at my comment or not.

It wasn't my intent to start a Blackstone rumor.  My only intent was to state that Bachmann has, at least recently, been taking better care of us than Blackstone has been taking care of the HOn3 community, and for that I was thankful.

Nothing else is implied, or meant to be "read between the lines".  Just stating that I was happy that Bachmann has pushed a few new products out the door for us to purchase.

Back to the OP, I would still be interested in seeing the source of this "new rumor".
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: choochoopapa on May 24, 2018, 08:38:04 PM
i was in facebook, i was reading about revel usa going out of business and that revel of Germany is still in business but had been sold for 3 mil  and it also said that Bachmann on30 would go the same way. it went on to say they would not say anymore and let Bachmann break the news. so i was just wondering if it might be possibly be true. i hope not.
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: the Bach-man on May 24, 2018, 10:40:21 PM
WRONG.
the Bach-man
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: Terry Toenges on May 24, 2018, 11:13:26 PM
I was just making light of the rumor thing. One rumor begats another rumor begats another rumor and so on it goes. It was not my intent to offend anyone.
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: choochoopapa on May 25, 2018, 08:22:02 AM
thank you mr Bachmann for the good news
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: 2foot6 on May 26, 2018, 04:28:55 AM
As I have wrote before.....One should not always believe what they see or read on the internet...Signed  Abraham Lincoln.  ...Peter ;D
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: p51 on June 05, 2018, 10:55:33 AM
Quote from: the Bach-man on May 24, 2018, 10:40:21 PM
WRONG.
the Bach-man
Sounds like all I need to know.
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: Bucksco on June 05, 2018, 11:33:01 AM
The sky is not falling....it is adjusting itself.
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: p51 on June 05, 2018, 03:38:05 PM
Quote from: Yardmaster on June 05, 2018, 11:33:01 AM
The sky is not falling....it is adjusting itself.
I always had the impression that Bachmann essentially flooded the market in On30. It took a long time for the rolling stock to dry up as cheap items in hobby shops and online.
Nothing made by Bachmann can be found for fractions of the retail price anymore. To me, that supports that the deluge has subsided and people aren't selling cheaply anymore. That would support to me that the market can handle Bachmann coming back with increased production. But it could also mean the market has absorbed almost all it can.
Let's face it, the market for On30 has never been huge, nor will it ever be so.
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: Len on June 05, 2018, 04:12:20 PM
At the LHS my repair shop was in, many people expressed and interest in On30 sets, until they saw the price.

They really liked the size, especially for 'Christmas Villages', but couldn't understand why it was priced like Lionel or MTH, yett ran on the same track as lower priced HO. I believe if the price point had been a bit lower, a lot more people would have gotten into On30.

Len
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: p51 on June 06, 2018, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: Len on June 05, 2018, 04:12:20 PM
At the LHS my repair shop was in, many people expressed and interest in On30 sets, until they saw the price.

They really liked the size, especially for 'Christmas Villages', but couldn't understand why it was priced like Lionel or MTH, yett ran on the same track as lower priced HO. I believe if the price point had been a bit lower, a lot more people would have gotten into On30.
I get your point, Len, but in all fairness I think enough people got into On30 anyway.
I've talked with one of the Bachmann people working on On30 at two model train shows and I would have liked to ask him how the company reacted to sales and if they'd been surprised by how many people embraced On30 from the start, but I assumed he'd not be able to give a honest answer in his role.
I'd really like to know if the popularity of On30 came as a surprised for Bachmann or not. But for all I know, Bachmann might have had higher hopes for On30 and it might have been a disappointment.
My understanding was that Bachmann made On30 for the 'tow train set' public for Christmas villages, and somewhat-serious model railroaders embracing it soon afterward as much as they have wasn't part of the original plan. I don't know if that's the case at all, though.
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: Geoff12765 on June 06, 2018, 03:06:50 PM
FWIW, my take is that putting DCC into the locomotives, and upping the price, firmly moves On30 away from the Christmas train and into the realm of the serious model train enthusiast, and I don't think they would continue to upgrade the fleet and introduce new locomotives if it wasn't selling.  (Although maybe the high price is a reflection of low sales  :D )
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: p51 on June 08, 2018, 11:12:43 AM
Quote from: Geoff12765 on June 06, 2018, 03:06:50 PM
FWIW, my take is that putting DCC into the locomotives, and upping the price, firmly moves On30 away from the Christmas train and into the realm of the serious model train enthusiast, and I don't think they would continue to upgrade the fleet and introduce new locomotives if it wasn't selling.  (Although maybe the high price is a reflection of low sales  :D )
Good point, but it's clear that Bachmann has slowed down production overall and stopped production of several items (like the gas mechanical 'diesel' critter). I don't know if they're placing themselves into a position where the previous stuff has dried up and they can later re-introduce these things, or if it's an overall issue of sale slowing.
Beats me which it is. I just hope they continue to make this stuff.
But in all fairness, On30 is so much more due to Bachmann, even if Bachmann dropped On30 entirely, there's too many people in it now to just walk away and another company would likely fill the gap in the market that would surely come if Bachmann walked away from On30 later.
Title: Re: rumor has it
Post by: Terry Toenges on June 08, 2018, 11:22:06 PM
If Bachmann did drop On30 then look how many peole would walk away from Bachmann since all they would have left to offer the On30 crowd would be maybe control systems, track and couplers but others make those items too.