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Title: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Dr TaNaKa on November 23, 2018, 06:49:02 PM
Is there information on how to combine HO EZ Track in combinations to go from 2 tracks to 3 tracks to 4 tracks to 2 tracks or any other combinations. Trying to run similar NYC MTA Subways.


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Terry Toenges on November 23, 2018, 08:46:54 PM
This might help you a little in figuring out some geometry with standard turnouts. I'm not sure if this is what you are looking. I don't have any specs or pics with larger turnouts.
http://www.sarget.com/trains/traintips/bach/traintip-eztrack.html (http://www.sarget.com/trains/traintips/bach/traintip-eztrack.html)


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: bbmiroku on November 23, 2018, 11:39:58 PM
If you're looking to run tracks close to each other like on a subway, your best bet would be to use track without attached roadbed so you can cut and splice them yourself.


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Dr TaNaKa on November 24, 2018, 02:16:12 PM
I would LOVE to use benchwork and flex track for this if it was going to be permanent. But alas it must be temporary, reason for using
EZ-Track.


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Dr TaNaKa on November 24, 2018, 02:20:20 PM
Terry, Thank You, this helps and gives me a few ideas I already have and can convert with what is shown on the siding tips.


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Len on November 24, 2018, 08:51:04 PM
Here are a couple of ideas using EZ-Track #5 Wyes and turnouts:

(https://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/Pickanotherid/Bachmann/EZ_Ladder_Layouts_zpslgcsavcz.jpg)

Len


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Terry Toenges on November 25, 2018, 01:29:48 AM
Here are some other off the wall configurations I had forgotten about.
I was working on this site many years ago and it fell by the wayside.
http://www.sarget.com/trains/traintips/bach/eztrack/traintip-eztrack2.html (http://www.sarget.com/trains/traintips/bach/eztrack/traintip-eztrack2.html)


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Len on November 25, 2018, 08:18:44 AM
Forgot to mention, the 9" straights between the Wye and Left/Right turnouts in the lower diagram are to minimize the 'S' curve effect on long passenger cars tranistioning from the single track to one of the outter turnout tracks. A shorter straight can be used if you'll only be running shorter cars.

Len


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Dr TaNaKa on November 25, 2018, 06:41:45 PM
Len

   Thank you, this info helps.  We only plan to run MTH NYC subway trains so these ideas are great, Pass on any more you may find

Thank You

Donald


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Dr TaNaKa on November 25, 2018, 06:46:24 PM
Terry

    This is what I needed.  You and Len will make me look great for the grandchildren this holiday season.

The best of the season to you both and your loved ones

Donald


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Terry Toenges on November 25, 2018, 07:48:04 PM
I know about pleasing those grandchildren. That's one of the reasons I do mine every year. :)


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Dr TaNaKa on November 26, 2018, 04:52:24 PM
Len

    In your 2-3-4 example, is there a way to connect a #6 crosssover to the "2 track" end of the two 44511?

Thanks

Donald


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Len on November 26, 2018, 06:45:02 PM
It can be done, but it introduces a couple of shallow 'S' curves into the mix. I'm having problems getting Photobucket to take uploads right now, so I can't do a pic yet.

Basically what you do is add a 44508 curve to each side of the crossover that will be facing the '2' end of the ladder. You want them to flair outward from the crossover. Then add a 1-1/4" straight (44592) to the end of those curves and another pair of 44508 curves coming back in to connect to the '2' end of the ladder.

If Photobucket starts working again, I'll see about posting a pic. It's actually easier, and doesn't have the 'S' curve issue because only short straights are needed, to add crossovers to the right end of the 1-2-4 ladder.

Len


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Len on November 27, 2018, 12:07:54 AM
Photobucket finally decided to start working again, so here's the diagrams revised to include the #6 Crossovers:

(https://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l529/Pickanotherid/EZ-Track/EZ_Ladder_Layouts_zpsqtllphq7.jpg)

Because of screen size limitations I had to remove some of the straights between the #5 turnouts and the #6 crossovers in the 'Alternate 1-2-4 Ladder' diagram to get it to fit the page. You could use whatever additional straights will fit your layout space in that area.

Len


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Dr TaNaKa on November 27, 2018, 06:48:32 PM
Len, Thank You, that is exactly the info I need.

Donald


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Dr TaNaKa on November 27, 2018, 07:27:17 PM
Ok, guess I should explain, my grandchildren would like to mimic the NYC Subway System.  Oldest one presented the idea to make station stops for each configuration of station stops in the system in a giant loop layout. 

I said there are 472 stations, that is a lot of different configurations.  He laughed and said no grandpa
that would be crazy.  We could make 2 tracks stations, 3 track stations and 4 track stations without all the extra curves and misaligned station configurations.

Once I thought about it, I understood the concept of what they wanted.  Basically, there are 2 types of 2 track stations in
NYC Subways IRT Division, 2 type of 3 track stations and 3 types of 4 track stations on the lines they wish made into this layout.

So one weekend soon we will AnyRail a layout and make sure we have what we need to make this come to life.

Once configured in Anyrail I hope I am allowed to Post here in the forums if that is possible.


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Dr TaNaKa on November 27, 2018, 09:54:52 PM
So Terry and Len, here is the deal

Grandchildren like Grandfather love NYC Subways. They want to build a layout based on it.

Oldest grandson says we could built one with configurations of the many 2 track, 3 track and
And 4 track stations. He wants it based on the IRT (A-Division) stations.

He suggested either a point to point or his really big idea a circular system with the different
Station configurations placed around the layout.

So one of these weekends we will load Anyrail on the computer and see what we come with.


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Terry Toenges on November 28, 2018, 12:43:25 AM
I lived in NY from 9/70 - 12/74. When I first moved up there (Before I got a car), I took the IRT from Van Cortlandt Park to Broadway and 34th Street. I was a store detective at EJ Korvette's in Herald Square for a few months before I went to work at the UN.


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Dr TaNaKa on November 28, 2018, 01:42:54 PM
I lived 125th and Broadway and watched the #1 pass by all the time.  My mother worked EJ Korvette during the time you were there until she moved on to NY Telephone.  I loved watching the #1 pass thru the Elevated station.

That image from our 17th floor apartment is what I now want to add to
my grandsons layout.  


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Terry Toenges on November 29, 2018, 10:33:02 AM
I lived on Cornell in Yonkers. I would take a bus to Van Cortland Park to catch the IRT. I might have known your Mom but I really don't remember many people from there.


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Dr TaNaKa on December 09, 2018, 02:44:35 PM
Len, Question, AnyRail labels short tracks sections as:
44592-1 3/4"
44592-2 1"
44592-3 1 1/4"
44592-4 1 1/2"
44592-5 2"

In your image 1-2-4 ladder with crossovers, I see them lettered A-E.
Should I take for granted E = 3/4" and B 1 1/2"?


Title: Re: Using HO EZ Track to make 2 to 3, 3 to 4 and 2 to 4 track runs
Post by: Len on December 09, 2018, 07:32:42 PM
Yes. I used RR-Track, and it labels the straight assortment pieces from A - E:

A - 0.75"
B - 1.00"
C - 1.25"
D - 1.50"
E - 2.00"

I've never had to use the assortment and, since they all have the same package number, figured that's how the pieces were labeled underneath.

Len