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Title: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: InsideTrack on July 12, 2019, 10:03:18 AM
Dear Thomas & Friends™ fans,
We are making a special announcement of new Thomas & Friends products. Please note that none of these items will be available BEFORE 2020. We will post information when available.

HO SCALE
Item No. 58820 DAISY (with moving eyes)
Item No. 77401 OIL TANKER TROUBLESOME TRUCK #6
Item No. 77402 1 PLANK WAGON with BRENDAM CARGO & FREIGHT CRATE
Item No. 77403 1 PLANK WAGON with BRENDAM BAY SHIPPING CO. CRATE
Item No. 77404 1 PLANK WAGON with SODOR STEAM WORKS CRATE

NARROW GAUGE
Item No. 56804 PETER SAM

Bachmann Trains
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: thomasj219 on July 12, 2019, 10:13:40 AM
Our prayers have been answered!!! Thank you so much!

Wow. First time I've been able to take something out of my signature in years.

Only a few left. ;)
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Chaz on July 12, 2019, 10:14:23 AM
I...... I am absolutely speechless right now.

And I will happily eat my own words on the lack of a new toolings happening anytime soon.  I am thrilled we are getting Daisy as well as Peter Sam, who happens to be my favorite Narrow gauge engine.  Not a big fan of the rolling stock choices, but all things considered the pros outweigh the cons and I am happy to see two of the most popular requests being followed up on.

Very exciting news indeed, thank you Bachmann!
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Sodor Engineer on July 12, 2019, 10:14:30 AM
WOW can't wait for them to be for sale!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;D

I'M SO HAPPY I'M JUMPING UP AND DOWN!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Chaz on July 12, 2019, 10:25:13 AM
(http://i66.tinypic.com/25ptymf.png)

Right from the NMRA pdf
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Ronniethe14xxx on July 12, 2019, 10:29:19 AM
Daisy and Ryan were the only characters I really wanted Bachmann to make, I'm so happy one of them is finally in production. I'm really excited for next year gosh
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Griffin (TheBlueSnowplow) on July 12, 2019, 10:29:30 AM
This is absolutely surreal. After years of waiting, we've finally got the announcements that the fans wanted. Bachmann, this is truly spectacular- and we didn't even have to wait till February! You guys have outdone yourselves, and earned back a customer; I will absolutely be purchasing Daisy and Peter Sam. This is spectacular.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: MeganekkoFury1126 on July 12, 2019, 10:42:28 AM
I'm elated at these announcements.

Finally, after getting very much ignored since her return in Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure and season 20 onward, Daisy will at last have some new merchandise! I'm sure she'll be a sell out. Now all we need is Ryan to go with her...

Peter Sam, I sort of expected, but nonetheless is great to see. Coming behind Duncan and Rusty, he's my favorite of the Skarloey Railway, and if Skarloey and Rheneas are examples to follow, he'll be another winner.

The rolling stock I can give or take, but the return of the short flatbed design is welcome, much like the return of the bogied flatbed with logs earlier.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: sean1994rail on July 12, 2019, 10:45:45 AM
WOW! Thiese announcements are indeed a welcome surprise. Well done Bachmann. Will be getting Daisy, Peter Sam, troublesome truck 6 and the conflats with crates.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Streak on July 12, 2019, 10:47:26 AM
I'm so shocked and excited by these new announcements! Can't wait for Daisy and Peter Sam! The rolling stock is kinda eh but the Troublesome Tanker could be good and it's nice to see the plank wagon return.

I'm wondering what the announcements in February of 2020 are gonna be, if they're gonna do any at all.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TTL on July 12, 2019, 10:52:03 AM
Now just to wait and see how much work I'll need to do to Peter Sam to get him in RWS shape 😜
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Falcon the 2nd on July 12, 2019, 10:54:20 AM
I'm proud of the Bachmann team for acknowledging their fans' wishes once again! These announcements prove that long-term persistence can pay off with requesting, at least as far as model trains go.

I most certainly cannot wait to see how Daisy and Peter Sam look, and I hope they'll be a hit among fans after years of waiting. With these two engines, a new N Scale line and UK availability in mind, 2020 is shaping up to be a delightful year for Bachmann's Thomas lineup so far. ;)
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on July 12, 2019, 10:59:09 AM
Am I dreaming right now?!?!?!?!?! This is beyond amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will definitely be getting all of these new products! Thank you very much, Bachmann! Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Large Scale Champion on July 12, 2019, 11:09:50 AM
Congratulations Bachmann, BUT please don't forget large scale 😢
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Falcon the 2nd on July 12, 2019, 11:17:49 AM
Quote from: Large Scale Champion on July 12, 2019, 11:09:50 AM
Congratulations Bachmann, BUT please don't forget large scale 😢

There's always hope for this coming February. Personally, I'd be down for seeing Mavis announced in Large Scale even though a new character hasn't seemed likely for a while. But since the team has been able to defy fans' expectations by integrating an eye mechanism for Daisy, acknowledging Large Scale via characters like Mavis feels plausible. As long as requesting is maintained in that category, she may eventually be confirmed.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: DucktheGWREngine08 on July 12, 2019, 11:24:32 AM
Hopefully the shops will have them for pre-order soon.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Sodor Engineer on July 12, 2019, 12:12:33 PM
just wondering could Cranky lift the crates in the 1 plank wagons. ???
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Rodimus Supreme on July 12, 2019, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: InsideTrack on July 12, 2019, 10:03:18 AM
Dear Thomas & Friends™ fans,
We are making a special announcement of new Thomas & Friends products. Please note that none of these items will be available BEFORE 2020. We will post information when available.

HO SCALE
Item No. 58820 DAISY (with moving eyes)
Item No. 77401 OIL TANKER TROUBLESOME TRUCK #6
Item No. 77402 1 PLANK WAGON with BRENDAM CARGO & FREIGHT CRATE
Item No. 77403 1 PLANK WAGON with BRENDAM BAY SHIPPING CO. CRATE
Item No. 77404 1 PLANK WAGON with SODOR STEAM WORKS CRATE

NARROW GAUGE
Item No. 56804 PETER SAM

Bachmann Trains

DJEHHOSDHAOIFWHSOSU?!?!?!?!?!?!

*Ahem*...now that I got that out of my system...

WHAT?!?! This is amazing!!!! I am SHOCKED for several reasons. First, this is an unprecedented announcement because it's July and Bachmann NEVER (as far as I know at least) announces new Thomas and Friends products any time other than Toy Fair in February. Second, ALL THESE ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE AMAZING!!!!! A Troublesome Tanker, reintroduced (or new?) rolling stock tooling, a highly anticipated Narrow Gauge character, AND DAISY!!!!!! Third, and I highlighted this part in the quote, DAISY HAS MOVING EYES!!!!!! I have no idea how Bachmann will pull that off, but I'm sure they've got the engineering figured out. This...this is just amazing.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Anthony P2 on July 12, 2019, 01:34:27 PM
I might have to get Daisy now! I'm actually really excited for the rolling stock too! It's nice that there's going to be more wagons with loads in the range. Peter Sam is definitely going to be a must have too! I'm pretty excited to see that Bachmann is starting a regular HOn3 line too!
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TrainFan97 on July 12, 2019, 02:09:38 PM
Wow! Bachmann doesn't usually post special announcements halfway through the year! We usually have to wait until February, but man! At long last! DAISY IS OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED FOR HO SCALE!!! Peter Sam is also confirmed for HOn30 Scale, so now we're finally getting a fourth Narrow Gauge engine.

Daisy was the most exciting announcement since Oliver in 2015. The third new tooling in HO Scale since Mattel's takeover. Red Rosie will be available soon, and hopefully, at the earliest, Daisy will be in stock next summer.

Now that Daisy is confirmed, we could expect engines like LBSC Thomas, Black James, or Sidney announced in February 2020.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Cheeky_ULP on July 12, 2019, 02:17:19 PM
This might be the most bizarre and unexpected news I've woken up to yet. Nonetheless, wow! Daisy is finally coming to the Bachmann range. I don't think I've been this excited for a Bachmann product since Skarloey. Daisy is one of the few characters to benefit and improve in her CGI form over her model form, so this is a model I'm gonna be waiting at the front of the line to get, for sure!

As for Peter Sam, I was iffy on Rusty, but I was excited for Rheneas and Skarloey for sure, so I'll gladly be adding Peter Sam to the collection.

Overall, it's like Christmas in July! I welcome it.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Titanic5972 on July 12, 2019, 02:30:34 PM
Absolutely fantastic to see Daisy announced. And the troublesome tanker too. Awesome news!
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TrainFan97 on July 12, 2019, 03:04:31 PM
We might see Daisy's image in the 2020 catalog when that comes next February.

At the earliest, we could expect her getting released next summer.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TrainshockeylifE on July 12, 2019, 03:20:14 PM
Wow! When I first saw a pic of the catalog I thought it was fake and that someone made it until I saw it on the forum! Maybe since next year is the 75th anniversary Bachmann did the announcement now and will have another one in February as a double announcement for the anniversary.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Angelob6660 on July 12, 2019, 11:29:57 PM
I know that I'm getting Daisy, Peter Sam and a few plank wagons.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Chaz on July 13, 2019, 01:43:29 AM
Looking back at all the responses on here, as well as the responses I've seen on social media, I don't think I've ever seen a lot of people in the fandom so... happy, which is a rarity especially with what Mattel has been doing with the brand as of late.  But to be fair, Mattel did have to approve these models and in some ways I'm still shocked that Mattel approved a model of Daisy, but clearly its a decision that's going to pay off.  Even a broken clock is right twice a day. :P

But in all seriousness, I do like seeing these positive responses as I feel that Daisy and Peter Sam's announcements have really restored a lot of faith some fans may have lost over the years over some arguably lackluster choices we have seen in the past.  Even the rolling stock that got announced at the NMRA is a lot better than the wagons that got announced at the Toy Fair this year.  It's nice to see that Bachmann managed to surprise us just like I had hoped like I mentioned earlier.  Something I will happily eat my own words with.

The Bachmann Daisy is going to make a very huge impact in sales for Bachmann, in the exact same way Donald and Douglas did as Hornby never produced a model of her prior before dropping the license.  So clearly there is that extra bit of collectors value that's following her moreso than Duck and Oliver.  A lot of people even like her CG render a lot more than Oliver's too, so more power to Bachmann on that one.  There is no doubt that this is the model that I think everyone is excited for the most and I think that is because of how much people wanted this character and how much of a surprise it was when she got announced yesterday.

Peter Sam seems to be making quite the positive reaction as well.  I'm really glad that they went with him instead of Duncan or any of the newer Narrow gauge characters.  Of course now we all know that the consistent demand for the next narrow gauge engine is Sir Handel.  But after how Peter Sam just happened to get announced not too long after Rusty arrived at dealers two years since he was announced, I have a feeling the next engine announcement will be a while.  Nothing wrong with at least having hopes up for brake vans once the coaches get released in the meantime. ;)

Either way, these "special announcements" really did do their justice and it certainly gives me some more hope for the future, all while making me anticipate these exciting new models as I'm sure it did for many others.  It goes without saying, Bachmann truly outdid themselves today in more ways than one.  Well done Bachmann.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: JLK2707 on July 13, 2019, 04:56:58 AM
Excellent news! I am so just going to be getting all of them! :)
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: DucktheGWREngine08 on July 13, 2019, 10:59:11 AM
Quote from: Chaz on July 13, 2019, 01:43:29 AM
Looking back at all the responses on here, as well as the responses I've seen on social media, I don't think I've ever seen a lot of people in the fandom so... happy, which is a rarity especially with what Mattel has been doing with the brand as of late.  But to be fair, Mattel did have to approve these models and in some ways I'm still shocked that Mattel approved a model of Daisy, but clearly its a decision that's going to pay off.  Even a broken clock is right twice a day. :P

But in all seriousness, I do like seeing these positive responses as I feel that Daisy and Peter Sam's announcements have really restored a lot of faith some fans may have lost over the years over some arguably lackluster choices we have seen in the past.  Even the rolling stock that got announced at the NMRA is a lot better than the wagons that got announced at the Toy Fair this year.  It's nice to see that Bachmann managed to surprise us just like I had hoped like I mentioned earlier.  Something I will happily eat my own words with.

The Bachmann Daisy is going to make a very huge impact in sales for Bachmann, in the exact same way Donald and Douglas did as Hornby never produced a model of her prior before dropping the license.  So clearly there is that extra bit of collectors value that's following her moreso than Duck and Oliver.  A lot of people even like her CG render a lot more than Oliver's too, so more power to Bachmann on that one.  There is no doubt that this is the model that I think everyone is excited for the most and I think that is because of how much people wanted this character and how much of a surprise it was when she got announced yesterday.

Peter Sam seems to be making quite the positive reaction as well.  I'm really glad that they went with him instead of Duncan or any of the newer Narrow gauge characters.  Of course now we all know that the consistent demand for the next narrow gauge engine is Sir Handel.  But after how Peter Sam just happened to get announced not too long after Rusty arrived at dealers two years since he was announced, I have a feeling the next engine announcement will be a while.  Nothing wrong with at least having hopes up for brake vans once the coaches get released in the meantime. ;)

Either way, these "special announcements" really did do their justice and it certainly gives me some more hope for the future, all while making me anticipate these exciting new models as I'm sure it did for many others.  It goes without saying, Bachmann truly outdid themselves today in more ways than one.  Well done Bachmann.
Daisy got approved due to a mix of she is in the cgi series and was highly demanded, not just cause of the high demand from fans.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: ShadowMonk on July 13, 2019, 12:06:57 PM
Fantastic, just need Boco and Trevor and I believe that completes the season 1 and 2 characters, which are the ones I most enjoy!
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: DucktheGWREngine08 on July 13, 2019, 11:19:28 PM
Quote from: ShadowMonk on July 13, 2019, 12:06:57 PM
Fantastic, just need Boco and Trevor and I believe that completes the season 1 and 2 characters, which are the ones I most enjoy!

Trever will happen but until Boco is in the CGI he will not be modelled cause Mattel has it that only cgi series characters are allowed to be made.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Rodimus Supreme on July 13, 2019, 11:36:15 PM
Quote from: DucktheGWREngine08 on July 13, 2019, 11:19:28 PM
Quote from: ShadowMonk on July 13, 2019, 12:06:57 PM
Fantastic, just need Boco and Trevor and I believe that completes the season 1 and 2 characters, which are the ones I most enjoy!

Trever will happen but until Boco is in the CGI he will not be modelled cause Mattel has it that only cgi series characters are allowed to be made.
Then explain The Spiteful Brakevan.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: JLK2707 on July 14, 2019, 03:29:43 AM
Do you think that BoCo will be modelled in CGI?
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: MoarCrossovers on July 14, 2019, 08:18:49 AM
Quote from: JLK2707 on July 14, 2019, 03:29:43 AM
Do you think that BoCo will be modelled in CGI?
Considering that Thomas and Friends seems to be moving away from reintroducing classic characters with Andrew Brenner's departure, unlikely.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TrainFan97 on July 14, 2019, 02:26:27 PM
With Andrew Brenner stepping down, we may never see BoCo in full CGI; same for Stepney. I've also noticed that in recent years, they've been turning away from reintroducing classic characters to the show, since they'd rather put out their resources to more international characters. As much as I'd love for Bachmann to make BoCo, the fact that he hasn't appeared since Season 5, which was two decades ago, makes his chances slim. Kids of this generation wouldn't even know who he is.

Stepney has been on high demand, but he also has yet to appear in full CGI. I wonder if that's going to hold Bachmann back from making him, especially if Mattel insists that Bachmann must only make engines that have been in the CGI series. Stepney had some starring roles and character development in the classic series. He also had a Hornby model, but is really hard to find for a price that isn't insane. BoCo, on the other hand, never got a Hornby model. Looking back, BoCo wasn't really that well-developed of a character. The closest he's ever had to a starring role was his debut, The Diseasel.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: metal4life on July 14, 2019, 02:57:52 PM
It really has been quite a long while since an announcement as roused the customer base as much as these- which is excellent! I think with Bachmann's acquisition of the UK distribution rights they have their eyes set on a much larger customer base and this certainly shows it.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Cheeky_ULP on July 14, 2019, 03:36:52 PM
The fact that the Hornby Stepney sells for a lot of money on eBay, even in recent months, should be enough of an incentive for Bachmann to consider making him. I mean, they do like money, right?
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TrainFan97 on July 14, 2019, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: Cheeky_ULP on July 14, 2019, 03:36:52 PM
The fact that the Hornby Stepney sells for a lot of money on eBay, even in recent months, should be enough of an incentive for Bachmann to consider making him. I mean, they do like money, right?

Hopefully, if Bachmann gets to Stepney, Mattel would make an exception for him, as he's one of the top requests for Bachmann at this point in time. People really want Stepney, since his Hornby model costs a ridiculous amount of money on eBay. Now that Daisy has been announced, Stepney is the next engine for everyone to keep asking for in HO Scale.

Now that Peter Sam was announced for Narrow Gauge, Sir Handel is the next engine for everyone to ask for in HOn30 Scale. Let's face it. We know Duncan's CGI render is one of the worst. There's no way he's going to have good sales if he's made based on his CGI model. At least Peter Sam actually has a good CGI render; same for Sir Handel. Rusty was made based on his CGI render, but at least it's not nearly as bad as Duncan's. After the Coaches, the next Narrow Gauge rolling stock needs to be Brake Vans.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on July 14, 2019, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: TrainFan97 on July 14, 2019, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: Cheeky_ULP on July 14, 2019, 03:36:52 PM
The fact that the Hornby Stepney sells for a lot of money on eBay, even in recent months, should be enough of an incentive for Bachmann to consider making him. I mean, they do like money, right?
Hopefully, if Bachmann gets to Stepney, Mattel would make an exception for him, as he's one of the top requests for Bachmann at this point in time. People really want Stepney, since his Hornby model costs a ridiculous amount of money on eBay. Now that Daisy has been announced, Stepney is the next engine for everyone to keep asking for in HO Scale.

I agree. Stepney should definitely be Bachmann's next HO locomotive due to his popularity. I see that Ryan has a pretty good following too, but not at the level of Stepney. While it is unlikely, it would be a miracle if Stepney got announced in February 2020, but I think that we may need to wait a little longer.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TrainFan97 on July 14, 2019, 05:04:03 PM
If we can't get Stepney, then Ryan would be the next best thing. Ryan isn't nearly as popular of a request as Stepney, but he would definitely sell better than another recolor like Sidney.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on July 14, 2019, 10:44:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTdTPKd2NLI

I just uploaded a video on YouTube on my thoughts of the new announcement, as well as expressing my gratitude for this new announcement! For those who would prefer to not sit through all 15 minutes, one question I would like to ask is: how does everyone feel about introducing another non-rail character in February 2020? The last non-rail character we got was Jeremy, which was back in 2013-2014.

I'm thinking of Trevor or Bulgy. Both are similar to Daisy because although they are classic characters, they have made many appearances in the CGI era too. Thus, both would sell much better than Jeremy, who was not a classic character. And unlike Oliver and Duncan, both of them have nice CGI designs as well. They would require new toolings, but since they are non-rail characters, they would not need motors. Do you think that they would sell as well as Stepney or Daisy?
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Sodor Engineer on July 15, 2019, 09:41:13 AM
It would be nice to see Bachmann make a non-rail character but I really don't think they will make one,but only time will tell.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: JLK2707 on July 16, 2019, 12:04:29 AM
Would max and Monty make good non-rail characters?
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on July 16, 2019, 01:15:26 PM
Hard to say, but I do think that if Bachmann chooses to make a character from the pack, Jack would be the one they choose due to fact that he's the main member of the pack. Yet, I personally still think that Trevor or Bulgy would be the best choices as they are classic characters and their CGI renders look great.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Sodor Engineer on July 16, 2019, 05:31:16 PM
I think that if Bachmann were to make a non-rail character it would be Jack cuz the new Thomas and friends movie is having Jack as a main character.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Angelob6660 on July 16, 2019, 06:03:30 PM
Quote from: thomas fan on July 16, 2019, 05:31:16 PM
I think that if Bachmann were to make a non-rail character it would be Jack cuz the new Thomas and friends movie is having Jack as a main character.

Or they could make Ace the sports car.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Trainboy 48 on July 16, 2019, 07:43:06 PM
How bout Butch
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Sodor Engineer on July 17, 2019, 09:39:06 AM
Quote from: angelob6660 on July 16, 2019, 06:03:30 PM
Quote from: thomas fan on July 16, 2019, 05:31:16 PM
I think that if Bachmann were to make a non-rail character it would be Jack cuz the new Thomas and friends movie is having Jack as a main character.

Or they could make Ace the sports car.
that's a good idea [but I don't really like ace] and Jack is a classic character.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Angelob6660 on July 17, 2019, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: thomas fan on July 17, 2019, 09:39:06 AM
Quote from: angelob6660 on July 16, 2019, 06:03:30 PM
Quote from: thomas fan on July 16, 2019, 05:31:16 PM
I think that if Bachmann were to make a non-rail character it would be Jack cuz the new Thomas and friends movie is having Jack as a main character.

Or they could make Ace the sports car.
that's a good idea [but I don't really like ace] and Jack is a classic character.

I'm not into Ace or Jack. I latter have Sir Topham Hatt's blue car. Since he had two different vehicles that looked the same I wouldn't care which one they make.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Chaz on July 17, 2019, 02:19:33 PM
I think like the resin buildings, Bachmann hasn't made another road character due to the fact that the market for that probably isn't very high.  Especially when the average person would use a Bandai or ERTL if they really wanted either Trevor or Bulgy on their layout.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TrainFan97 on July 19, 2019, 11:15:28 AM
I also thought the market for non-rail characters just isn't high enough. If Bachmann ever does make another one, it should be Trevor or Bulgy. ERTL and Bandai TECS models are hard to come by these days.

Daisy was the first new tooling announced for HO Scale in three years. More engines with popular demand are a higher priority than road vehicles, due to having the greater market. Stepney and BoCo are two classic characters that have yet to appear in full CGI, but Stepney is the one with the most popular demand. BoCo's demand isn't as high as Stepney's, but now that Bachmann is making their first large diesel in the Thomas range, BoCo might have a better chance than before, even though he hasn't appeared in the show for two decades. Unlike Stepney, Hornby never made BoCo. Both would be very popular sellers. The only problem with Diesel 10 is his claw "Pinchy" which has been stated numerous times would breech the NMRA standards, which would be problematic for Bachmann. Daisy still remains the only large diesel from the classic series (other than Diesel 10) to appear in the CGI series.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on July 19, 2019, 02:10:06 PM
Looking closely at comments and messages I have received through social media, I think that you guys are right that a road character would not sell as well as Stepney, or even BoCo for that matter. Some fans are interested, but it's not near the amount of fans who are interested in seeing Stepney.

Once more, I am hoping that the 75th Anniversary is a good reason to give Mattel on making Stepney, as they generally want Bachmann to produce characters from the CGI era. Thus, I think that announcing him in February 2020 would be a wise move even if he would have to be delayed like Oliver.

At the end of the day, I want Bachmann to make models that would not only make the majority of Thomas fans happy, but also give them the best profit :).

Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TrainFan97 on July 19, 2019, 05:58:43 PM
Mattel has allowed Bachmann to make rolling stock from the classic series, like the Spiteful Brake Van. Hopefully in the near future, Mattel would let Bachmann make engines from the classic series like Stepney and/or BoCo, which have yet to appear in full CGI, but are still loved by classic fans to this day. Bachmann knows classic sells. One can only hope Mattel approves those characters, if they ever loosen up to the idea.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Sodor Engineer on July 19, 2019, 06:13:26 PM
hopefully one day MATTEL >:( (if they get there act together)will start bringing back THE CLASSIC CHARACTERS and then Bachmann would have more characters to chose from.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Cheeky_ULP on July 19, 2019, 06:15:35 PM
The CGI redesigns would make them lose their appeal, in my opinion. I'd rather the remaining classics stay classics, at this point.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Rodimus Supreme on July 19, 2019, 06:22:46 PM
I'm also a comic book nerd, so I also keep up with Mattel's DC Comics offerings (which will change come next spring as Mattel lost most of their DC licenses and they'll no longer be making anything I care about once that change occurs), and I'm telling you right now, the only way we'll get this ideal future for the brand is if Mattel loses the Thomas and Friends franchise entirely to someone else who actually knows what they're doing.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on July 19, 2019, 06:32:20 PM
While I see where everyone is coming from, I think that we should try to keep the forum in positive spirits after seeing that Daisy, Peter Sam, and Troublesome Truck #6 are getting made.

That doesn't mean that we can't still hope that Stepney will get announced in February ;)
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Sodor Engineer on July 19, 2019, 07:20:00 PM
Right you are
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Metal on July 19, 2019, 07:33:04 PM
Quote from: Cheeky_ULP on July 19, 2019, 06:15:35 PM
The CGI redesigns would make them lose their appeal, in my opinion. I'd rather the remaining classics stay classics, at this point.

It's really a double-edged sword, some have benefited with added detail and proportions, such as The First 5 NG Engines and Daisy, while some have diminished like Oliver and Duncan.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on July 19, 2019, 08:59:26 PM
That's a good point. I could see Mattel doing a good job on CGI designs of BoCo and Duke, but I think that Stepney would not turn out well from the face to new details that would be added.

That's why Stepney is the one exception that should be made for the Bachmann line. The classic model series design has so much charm to it and the face is one of my favorites: https://ttte.fandom.com/wiki/Bowled_Out/Gallery?file=File%3ABowledOut4.png
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Chaz on July 20, 2019, 01:44:01 AM
Looking back on Daisy's announcement, it's clear Bachmann really had to choose one of the "Big two" demands from fans since they clearly wanted to go for a character that was going to be sell extremely well like Oliver or a narrow gauge engine which is something Rosie or Paxton could never do since there is nowhere near as much nostalgia for these characters as there are classic characters.  Clearly, Daisy's CGI appearances made her that much more of an iconic/appealing character and thus made her the more desirable choice from Bachmann and Mattel over Stepney.  Despite this, I say Stepney still has a pretty reasonable shot all things considered once Daisy is released so there's that much more hope on my end going for him.

In the meantime, I am honestly more than happy getting nothing but recolors (with the exception of narrow gauge brake vans) while Daisy and Peter Sam are in production.  Just knowing that we are getting models of one of the most popularly requested engines in HO as well as the most popularly requested narrow gauge engine in the process is more than enough to have me convinced that we are in good hands with Bachmann for the time being.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: sean1994rail on July 22, 2019, 06:15:19 PM
I am thrilled too! Thanks Bachmann! Will indeed be getting Daisy, Peter Sam and Troublesome Truck 6.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Chaz on August 05, 2019, 01:02:17 AM
So I gotta ask since it's been almost a month since the announcements but which engine are you more excited for?  Daisy or Peter Sam?
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Kemptown Branch on August 05, 2019, 08:24:07 AM
I am definitely more excited for Peter Sam. I love the HO range, but the Narrow Gauge range is such high quality it beats anything the HO range produces.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on August 05, 2019, 09:15:11 AM
I'm very excited for both engines, but I would say that I am slightly more excited about Daisy, as she's the first large, bogied diesel that is getting made for the Thomas line. I cannot wait to see how they will pull off the moving eye mechanism, and see if she will have "see-through" windows just like the engine from the classic model series.

However, there is another engine that I would be even more excited for if he gets announced in February 2020: https://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,35991.0.html  ;)

How amazing that would be if it happens!
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TrainFan97 on August 05, 2019, 05:39:58 PM
I'm more excited for Daisy. I don't actually collect Narrow Gauge, mainly because of how expensive it is.

I highly doubt Daisy would have transparent windows. All the other diesels in the HO range have opaque silver windows. Daisy will most likely have the same. It would be to hide the motors and eye mechanism. That certainly won't be a dealbreaker.

Because Daisy's CGI render has raised bufferbeams, she can easily have hook-and-loop couplers on both ends without a gaping hole.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: JLK2707 on August 05, 2019, 11:05:24 PM
Yeah. It should just look great! :)
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Sodor Engineer on August 07, 2019, 09:27:48 AM
Honestly I like the narrow gauge range but Peter Sam really needs Sir Handel with him but I will still buy Peter Sam but the same thing could be said with  Daisy and Ryan.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Anthony P2 on August 07, 2019, 09:17:10 PM
There's always next year for Sir Handel and Ryan
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TrainFan97 on August 07, 2019, 10:00:41 PM
Ever since Daisy was announced, the demand for Ryan has spiked up, especially because they both share the same branch line. If Ryan gets made in the near future, that would complete the Harwick duo.

I can imagine if Salty is eventually brought back, the same could happen to Porter getting a spike in demand, since they're the Brendam Docks duo.

And if Bachmann ever does announce Den someday in the future, Dart would be inevitable, but the only issue holding them back is Dart's small size. Because even Percy towers over him, Dart would have to be scaled up, like Porter. The Dieselworks duo really doesn't have enough popular demand to be announced anytime soon.

With Daisy, being one of the top requests coming in 2020, the top requests for the HO range are now Ryan and Stepney.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on August 08, 2019, 12:27:30 AM
Once again, I completely agree that Ryan should be made, as Ryan is Daisy's main companion in the CGI series, and I have confidence that Bachmann will make him at some point. However, I still firmly believe that Stepney should be made first. For those who haven't seen the thread I made on Stepney and Ryan already, please check it out and leave a comment: https://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,35991.0.html  :) I, as well as other Bachmann Thomas fans, have stated multiple reasons as to why Stepney should be made before Ryan.

As for other new HO engines after Stepney, I would suggest only three others. Ryan (of course), BoCo, and Sidney. Reasons for Ryan and Sidney have been stated many times. As for BoCo, I'll explain why he would be a great addition at a much later date ;).

For now, I think that it would make the most sense to focus on the two engines with the most demand after Daisy, which are Stepney and Ryan. Really hoping that the licencor will let Bachmann announce Stepney in February 2020 for the 75th Anniversary!

Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TrainFan97 on August 08, 2019, 01:38:12 AM
I do agree that Stepney should be made first, to celebrate the 75th Anniversary. Mattel better let Bachmann make him for this occasion.

If Stepney gets announced next Toy Fair, that would open the door to possibilities like BoCo, another character who hasn't appeared in the show for quite some time. Daisy is the first large diesel in the Bachmann Thomas range. Since Diesel 10's claw would breech the NMRA standards, as stated numerous times, the only other possibility for the second large diesel is BoCo.

Some say BoCo would benefit from a CGI render like Daisy did, but, since we haven't seen a returning Awdry character since Season 21, and given the show's current direction, with Andrew Brenner stepping down, it's not likely BoCo would return to the show anytime soon. However, it's not like BoCo had anything wrong with his classic series model, like Daisy did by having low bufferbeams. I'm sure if BoCo gets made in his model series design, he would sell like hot cakes.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: DucktheGWREngine08 on August 08, 2019, 06:53:01 AM
I still doubt Mattel would let Bachmann do something like that, they care about money more than the fans.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on August 08, 2019, 08:32:56 AM
Quote from: TrainFan97 on August 08, 2019, 01:38:12 AM
I do agree that Stepney should be made first, to celebrate the 75th Anniversary. Mattel better let Bachmann make him for this occasion.

If Stepney gets announced next Toy Fair, that would open the door to possibilities like BoCo, another character who hasn't appeared in the show for quite some time. Daisy is the first large diesel in the Bachmann Thomas range. Since Diesel 10's claw would breech the NMRA standards, as stated numerous times, the only other possibility for the second large diesel is BoCo.

Some say BoCo would benefit from a CGI render like Daisy did, but, since we haven't seen a returning Awdry character since Season 21, and given the show's current direction, with Andrew Brenner stepping down, it's not likely BoCo would return to the show anytime soon. However, it's not like BoCo had anything wrong with his classic series model, like Daisy did by having low bufferbeams. I'm sure if BoCo gets made in his model series design, he would sell like hot cakes.

Already, you've stated some good points as to why BoCo would be a great candidate. I have more discuss with him, but I'll save that for a later date, as Bachmann really should focus on the two engines fans want most: Stepney and Ryan

Quote from: DucktheGWREngine08 on August 08, 2019, 06:53:01 AM
I still doubt Mattel would let Bachmann do something like that, they care about money more than the fans.

The irony with that comment is that in terms of new toolings, it would cost less for Bachmann to make classic engines like Stepney and BoCo than any of the popular CGI engines such as Ryan, Nia, Rebecca, and Hiro, due to their simpler designs, and yet there is much more demand for classic engines throughout the fandom, especially with Stepney.

If the licensor really cared about money, they would allow at least allow Bachmann to make this one exception for the 75th Anniversary. More is explained in the Stepney or Ryan thread.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Rodimus Supreme on August 08, 2019, 02:19:38 PM
Quote from: TerencetheTractor525 on August 08, 2019, 08:32:56 AM
Quote from: TrainFan97 on August 08, 2019, 01:38:12 AM
I do agree that Stepney should be made first, to celebrate the 75th Anniversary. Mattel better let Bachmann make him for this occasion.

If Stepney gets announced next Toy Fair, that would open the door to possibilities like BoCo, another character who hasn't appeared in the show for quite some time. Daisy is the first large diesel in the Bachmann Thomas range. Since Diesel 10's claw would breech the NMRA standards, as stated numerous times, the only other possibility for the second large diesel is BoCo.

Some say BoCo would benefit from a CGI render like Daisy did, but, since we haven't seen a returning Awdry character since Season 21, and given the show's current direction, with Andrew Brenner stepping down, it's not likely BoCo would return to the show anytime soon. However, it's not like BoCo had anything wrong with his classic series model, like Daisy did by having low bufferbeams. I'm sure if BoCo gets made in his model series design, he would sell like hot cakes.

Already, you've stated some good points as to why BoCo would be a great candidate. I have more discuss with him, but I'll save that for a later date, as Bachmann really should focus on the two engines fans want most: Stepney and Ryan

Quote from: DucktheGWREngine08 on August 08, 2019, 06:53:01 AM
I still doubt Mattel would let Bachmann do something like that, they care about money more than the fans.

The irony with that comment is that in terms of new toolings, it would cost less for Bachmann to make classic engines like Stepney and BoCo than any of the popular CGI engines such as Ryan, Nia, Rebecca, and Hiro, due to their simpler designs, and yet there is much more demand for classic engines throughout the fandom, especially with Stepney.

If the licensor really cared about money, they would allow at least allow Bachmann to make this one exception for the 75th Anniversary. More is explained in the Stepney or Ryan thread.
Nia and Rebecca are not popular. Everyone hates them.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Ronniethe14xxx on August 08, 2019, 03:05:53 PM

[/quote] Nia and Rebecca are not popular. Everyone hates them.
[/quote]

Actually, most people seem to like Rebecca, Nia is more of a 50/50 split
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Cheeky_ULP on August 08, 2019, 03:12:04 PM
I wouldn't count on a big tender engine like Rebecca being made anytime soon. We'd sooner get Hiro if that option was on the table.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Sodor Engineer on August 08, 2019, 05:10:06 PM
I 100% hate Nia and Rebeca cuz they kicked Edward and Henry out of the show. >:(
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Chaz on August 08, 2019, 05:22:17 PM
Quote from: Ronniethe14xxx on August 08, 2019, 03:05:53 PM
Actually, most people seem to like Rebecca, Nia is more of a 50/50 split

We've been over this before, Nia and Rebecca are both not popular characters (in a good way that is) with both the older audience and even the current generation of Thomas fans because of their forced insertion and how they've been handled as "characters".  Even parents I've seen at train shows or at work are still complaining about Edward and Henry being written off and how poorly Mattel handled the introduction(s) of these "characters" in place of two of the main cast. 
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Metal on August 08, 2019, 06:48:54 PM
Nia and Rebeeca are considered Mary Sues of Thomas. In short, think of them like how Rey is to Star Wars.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Sodor Engineer on August 08, 2019, 08:32:05 PM
WHY MATTEL WHY did you give up EDWARD >:( for this https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--zqH78HAy1s/W5pPz7F_a6I/AAAAAAAARd0/NuW17U0QcqMtdiYI2Lk_b025ZiKoowtBQCLcBGAs/s400/MainNiaCGI.png
  THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH EDWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the fans be like >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on August 09, 2019, 01:17:36 AM
I'm sure that Bachmann is well aware that the majority of Thomas fans despise Nia and Rebecca. As Chaz stated, it is something that we have gone through multiple times. When I stated "popular", I was not only referring to the amount of fans who want the engine to be made in the Bachmann line. I was also referring to their amount of appearances on the show today (this being the case for Nia & Rebecca, as they are main characters on the show now). I apologize for not making that more clear. Yet, even if fans wanted Bachmann to make Nia and Rebecca, both of their toolings would be very expensive to make (much more than Stepney and Ryan, both of whom fans would like to see a Bachmann model of), which is why I don't think that either would be feasible to begin with.

Hence, instead of wasting space on the forum with comments on Nia and Rebecca, let's get back on topic.
1. Are you more excited for Daisy or Peter Sam?
2. What are your thoughts on Bachmann announcing Stepney in February 2020?
Please look at this new thread if you have not done so yet: https://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,35991.0.html

Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: Sodor Engineer on August 09, 2019, 09:17:47 AM
Okay but if Bachmann ever will announce them I will never buy them.

  But lets just be happy with the announcements cuz I am so happy about them.
Title: Re: Special New Thomas & Friends Products Announcement
Post by: JLK2707 on August 10, 2019, 08:51:02 AM
It is just a great thing that bachmann has never announced these engines!