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Title: Sound Value 4-6-2 CV Chuff Rate Settings
Post by: CArailroader on September 27, 2019, 04:04:07 PM
Hi all,

I just recently purchased an HO Sound Value USRA 4-6-2. I read the thread at https://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,35808.0.html and I saw no mention of the Chuff exhaust rate. I was wondering if anyone else had this engine and had changed and fine tuned the Chuff Rate.

Thanks
Title: Re: Sound Value 4-6-2 CV Chuff Rate Settings
Post by: Trainman203 on September 27, 2019, 06:13:33 PM
See https://soundtraxx.com/content/Bachmann/SoundValue/HOScaleSteam/bachmann_ho_462_sv.pdf

The default value of cv 131 is 75.  Steam engines had 4 chuffs per driver revolution.  The sound Value decoder will never be chuff-count perfect at all speeds so what you are looking for is to be minimally off that number at the most number of speeds below 4 or 5 steps on a 28-step system or 10 or so out of 128 steps on other systems like NCE such as I have.  Above these speeds the engine is going too fast to count the chuffs anyway.

Put your engine on the track and run at either 4 or 10 steps depending on your system.  If the chuff count is less than 4 at the cv default value of 75, most likely, adjust upward in increments of 10 until near 4 per turn,  then fine tune.  Historically over time, tuning cv's on over 50 engines, I've found that a cv 131 value around 150 often works, though I've had some as low as 125 and others sometimes around 175.  Try this process and these numbers and report back.
Title: Re: Sound Value 4-6-2 CV Chuff Rate Settings
Post by: Irbricksceo on October 16, 2019, 09:45:14 PM
its been a while since i did mine, but as i recall it was roughly 85 to match closely at "road speed". its a tad fast at crawl but really close at speed.

Title: Re: Sound Value 4-6-2 CV Chuff Rate Settings
Post by: ebtnut on October 17, 2019, 11:44:10 AM
FWIW, I try to match the 4 chuffs per revolution at fairly low speeds.  Once you get up to "road speed" you can't really see whether the rate is exactly 4 per rev, whereas at low speeds you can see if the chuffs and revs are in sync.
Title: Re: Sound Value 4-6-2 CV Chuff Rate Settings
Post by: Irbricksceo on October 18, 2019, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: ebtnut on October 17, 2019, 11:44:10 AM
FWIW, I try to match the 4 chuffs per revolution at fairly low speeds.  Once you get up to "road speed" you can't really see whether the rate is exactly 4 per rev, whereas at low speeds you can see if the chuffs and revs are in sync.

I think it depends on how you run it. i very rarely have the pacific crawling, it spends 90% of its runtime at speed step 50/128, stock motor CVs, so thats where i matched it, and i can definitely tell that its in sync. for a switcher, if i HAD any with sound, i'd match lower.