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Boston & Maine P2-b
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd264/Guilford_Guy/bm-s3664abn.jpg)
Southern Railway PS-4
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd264/Guilford_Guy/nmah_train.jpg)
Baltimore & Ohio P7
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd264/Guilford_Guy/bo-s5306amm.jpg)
New York Central K-11
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd264/Guilford_Guy/nyc-s3022wka.jpg)
Nickel Plate K-1
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd264/Guilford_Guy/nkp-s164ark.jpg)
Any one of them as long as its a Harriman based Pacific ;D
lanny
SR PS-4 ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!
PS-4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) ;D :) :) ;D ;D :) ;D 8)
BLI claims it will produce the P7. You left out the prom queen - the C&O F-teen.
Gene
G'Day,
I would love a swag of US pacifics. USRAs, P7, PS-4, SP Southwind, ATSF 3400, and others.
Many of the Pacifics wheelbase had Driver centres of between 6'6" to 7'.
When it's all scaled down, it really isn't that noticeable.
So if you had a running chassis with Driver centres of 6'9", you would have a good starting point for quite a few different pacifics and reduce some of the production costs with a shared running chassis.
The question to the buying public is, would you critically accept a loco with a 'total driver wheelbase' that may be up to 6" too long, or too short?
If it meant getting more pacifics, I would!
How about a PRR K-4? That's much more in line with past manufacturer's thinking as to what is needed in the marketplace.
RETCH !
Quote from: Virginian on December 20, 2007, 09:47:09 PM
How about a PRR K-4? That's much more in line with past manufacturer's thinking as to what is needed in the marketplace.
RETCH !
No! Enough of PRR engines, or anything else that's easily identifiable as belonging to a particular road.
Quote from: rogertra on December 20, 2007, 11:28:16 PM
Quote from: Virginian on December 20, 2007, 09:47:09 PM
How about a PRR K-4? That's much more in line with past manufacturer's thinking as to what is needed in the marketplace.
RETCH !
No! Enough of PRR engines, or anything else that's easily identifiable as belonging to a particular road.
Well, that's kind of the problem. That kind of leaves out anything other than USRA engines as built to USRA plans (and not later copies).
The visual differences between steam locomotive built to the same design can be quite dramatic once time and the road's backshop did their work.
Compare a C&O J-2 to an N&W K-2 (especially after the K-2 was streamlined)
A Central of Georgia K 4-8-4 beat with the heart of a Southern Pacific GS-6, but looked radically different right out of the factory.
For that matter, check out the visual differences of the Van Sweringen Berks.
Chicago & Alton, UP and SP had heavy Harriman 4-6-2's built. They all ended up looking rather different.
It's kind of asking a bit of the manufacturers, although Bachmann did a nice job with the Spectrum 2-8-0.
Andre
B&O or C&O variants! Stephen
Pacifics are handsome engines due to their proportions. While there were larger engines Pacifics were well thought of and liked by the crews. They fit branch line operations well after being bumped down from better assignments by newer locomotives though the SP commuter pool really used these engines all the way until the extreme end on steam.
WHile I like the Lima-built B&M Pacifics, the USRA based locomotives make a lot of sense.
The Ps4 please.
My vote would be for the USRA Pacific engine in the Spectrum line. I would note that the new Standard Berkshire comes in a few variants, hence the USRA Pacific could also come with a few differences as well.
What is to decide? The Ps-4 wins hands down (although the Beano P-7 is really nice.)
Bowser makes a K-11 and there are a plethora of Pennsy K-4 engines. The old Mantua-TYco pacific was based on the Beano P-7 engines.
Bachmann might do well to make a Harriman engine - lots of SP and UP fans out there (as well as IC).
Your poll's rather limited.
It didn't include any of these:
http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/SP2402.JPG
Andre
I sure agree that we need a Pacific and not PRR!
They were great locos. The CPR had plans to build 600 of them in the 1940's which shows what they thougth of them. Only a little over 100 were built and these were probably the last Pacifics built in North America with the last being delivered in 1948.
Now I doubt we will ever see a Bachamann model of one but I would be happy with any Spectrum Pacific.
Andre,
That's a nice shot of an SP P4 (originally P1) on the original Transcontinental line through Altamont Pass. Grew up nearby. My vote on the SP would be a later Pacific. This one was built in 1906. As rebuilt in the picture it lasted into the 50s. so it could be set in pretty modern times with early Diesels
The votes are in and the consensus from this, and other postings, is that Bachmann would do well to market some Harriman road engines.
You've got to admit that the Ps-4 in green is quite an impressive locomotive.
I'm still waiting for a small mogul (such as Wabash #573) in HO.
It would be really great if Bachmann made things like the sandbox and steam dome removable without leaving a great big hole in the boiler or worst still, a casting for the base of the dome or sandbox. Both the dome and the sandbox could be held in position by a screw up through the boiler so that if they are moved, all you need to fill is the small screw hole and not have to file the bases to remove them.
Andre,
That's a nice shot of an SP P4 (originally P1) on the original Transcontinental line through Altamont Pass. Grew up nearby. My vote on the SP would be a later Pacific. This one was built in 1906. As rebuilt in the picture it lasted into the 50s. so it could be set in pretty modern times with early Diesels
That's fine with me. Let 'em do a Harriman Heavy instead of a light. I could use a P-6 or two or three (but not more, since three of the six P-6's went to the T&NO to be tarted up and made into P-14's).
Andre
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Harriamn Pacifics would be fine here. I still like the B&M as it has a look in keeping wtih the Lima Superpower heritage.
In the case of the most appealing, the USRA heavy Pacific covers a lot of territory as it was adapted by many lines.