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Title: HO Recomended Locomotives?
Post by: Steelrails on August 04, 2020, 04:09:02 AM
Hello Bachmann Forum Members;
        I am recreating the train "Snowpiercer," from the series Snowpiercer. (images here: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/ba2dmg) Scaling, length, and all the other logistics aside (there are a lot) I am looking for a locomotive that is relatively long, as Snowpiercer does have a length (in ho scale) of about 30cm, relatively cheap as I am planning to sell a few and the shell will be torn off, and replaced with a custom 3d printed shell, but also reliable and good quality. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Title: Re: HO Recomended Locomotives?
Post by: jonathan on August 04, 2020, 06:19:36 AM
The only thing approaching the length you describe is the DD40AX.  It is sold out, but I'm sure can be had on eBay or the like.  It has two motors and weight can be added for extra pulling power.  I was goaded into watching the movie.  As I recall the loco truck were never viewed up close, so fidelity might not be an issue.

I remember thinking as I watched this film, those are HO scale people on an O scale train.

Good luck.

Regards,

Jonathan.
Title: Re: HO Recomended Locomotives?
Post by: Len on August 04, 2020, 06:45:45 AM
The DD40AX is available on eBay...
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l2632.R2.TR2.TRC1.A0.H1.XHO+DD40AX.TRS0&_nkw=ho+scale+dd40ax&_sacat=180250

I know the Spectrum version had two motors. Not sure if the EZ-Command version did or not.

Len
Title: Re: HO Recomended Locomotives?
Post by: Trainman203 on August 04, 2020, 03:15:08 PM
So what is it?  Steam or diesel?
Title: Re: HO Recomended Locomotives?
Post by: Terry Toenges on August 04, 2020, 03:52:47 PM
I thought it was a diesel but, looking at it close, it's steam I guess. Smokeless steam  :) I was looking through a few sites I can't see anything that says how it's powered. I haven't seen the show.
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/117126400_10158695674170522_6497698904320047921_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=a_lejAzyazYAX8dHco7&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=3dd468b43119d1b090a0f3993293883c&oe=5F4E5C42)
Title: Re: HO Recomended Locomotives?
Post by: Len on August 04, 2020, 05:38:37 PM
Being a Sci-Fi show it operates off some kind of "Perpetual Motion" that isn't actually explained. From one of the shows descriptions, "Wilford Industries, designed the train to run perpetually, so that it would never have to stop." The train does have some limiations though. It has to maintain a speed above a certain point to generate the electicity needed for all of those cars it's hauling. And it apparently uses some kind of super efficient dynamic breaking system to generate electicity when the train has to slow for some reason, that can be fed back into the engine to speed back up again. And those are windows in the nose, similar to a cab unit.

The is an interior shot of the engineer's station:
(https://media.architecturaldigest.com/photos/5ebebb3a71ff3129e85e3179/16:9/w_2560%2Cc_limit/467868_2689_R.jpg)

And this is the engineer's quarters:
(https://media.architecturaldigest.com/photos/5ebebbb083b0e93071f89f91/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/467868_2717_R.jpg)

Some folks believe the design of the locomotive in the graphic novel was influenced by proposed, but never built, double height 'Breitspurbah' train of pre-WWII Germany:
(https://weaponsandwarfare.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/breitspurbahn_locomotive__by_futurewgworker-d9p1i9p.jpg)

Len

Title: Re: HO Recomended Locomotives?
Post by: Terry Toenges on August 04, 2020, 06:11:58 PM
It reminds me of some of these old streamliners like the Zeppelin Aerotrain
(https://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31628&d=1447725037)
https://www.google.com/search?q=steam+loco+%22streamliner%22&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwipj8f6yILrAhUNlKwKHTetDW4Q_AUoAnoECA4QBA&biw=1279&bih=619&dpr=1.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=steam+loco+%22streamliner%22&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwipj8f6yILrAhUNlKwKHTetDW4Q_AUoAnoECA4QBA&biw=1279&bih=619&dpr=1.5)
Title: Re: HO Recomended Locomotives?
Post by: Terry Toenges on August 04, 2020, 06:36:09 PM
If you are really well breaded, there is this KMT HO brass Westside Model Company Santa Fe 3000 class 2-10-10-2 you could use for the chassis.
(https://image.invaluable.com/housePhotos/stout/65/575165/H2651-L81770726.jpg)
Title: Re: HO Recomended Locomotives?
Post by: prr22 on August 04, 2020, 09:59:01 PM
Terry, that 2-10-10-2 looks pretty spot on. I'd take that chassis and put a Hiawatha looking shell on it (maybe you need two spliced together lol).
Title: Re: HO Recomended Locomotives?
Post by: Terry Toenges on August 04, 2020, 10:32:10 PM
The two sets of drivers are closer together. I don't know if you could space them farther apart. I don't know enough about how it looks underneath the shell and how they are connected.
Title: Re: HO Recomended Locomotives?
Post by: prr22 on August 05, 2020, 04:53:36 PM
Regardless, I don't think I could ever find it in myself to slice apart a brass model lol  ;)
Title: Re: HO Recomended Locomotives?
Post by: Trainman203 on August 05, 2020, 05:03:08 PM
One of the videos of that engine, cylinder cocks appear to be open