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Title: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: InsideTrack on January 29, 2021, 04:03:34 PM
Bachmann is excited to announce new items coming to our Thomas line in 2021.

- HO Scale
Ryan (Item No. 58823)
Toby's Museum Coach (Item No. 76032)
Toby's Museum Brake Coach (Item No. 76033)
Narrow Gauge Yellow Rheneas (Item No. 58605)
Narrow Gauge Box Van - Blue (Item No. 77208)
Narrow Gauge Box Van - Red (Item No. 77209)

- N Scale
Toby the Tram Engine (Item No. 58794)
S.C. Ruffey (Item No. 77092)

-Large Scale
Paxton (Item No. 91408)
Mining Wagon with Load - Blue (Item No. 98025)
Sodor Coal Co. Wagon with Load (Item No. 98026)
Sodor Scrap Co. Wagon (Item No. 98027)

For more details, tune into our segment at the Amherst Railway Society's Virtual Show tomorrow at 2:30 p.m. EST. More information available at http://www.railroadhobbyshow.com/attendingtheshow.php
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Chaz on January 29, 2021, 04:44:48 PM
Gonna re-post my earlier post here with additional thoughts included:

Ryan is definitely an interesting choice. I would argue that out of all of the newer characters, he seemed to be a very popular request with both the older and younger fans.  Plus he goes hand-in-hand with Daisy and has always been popular merchandise wise.  So if anything Ryan was a shoe-in for Bachmann.  He's not the first choice of locomotive for me personally but I think the model itself will turn out really nice.  I can see him being a popular seller.

Toby's Museum coaches are honestly a really solid choice for rolling stock in HO.  I not only appreciate that these are pieces of rolling stock based on something from the show, but also that these were requested by fans on here and Twitter briefly and clearly Bachmann listened to that suggestion and followed up with it.  It's funny how a standard museum coach never was made in the show but I'm assuming Bachmann went this route just to allow fans to buy a complete pair of two coaches to make a standard train.  

I may pick these up actually since these are some of the few pieces of rolling stock past season 5 that doesn't scream "toys" from a mile away and they genuinely look really nice on the show.  Probably won't get more than two of them though.

Yellow Rheneas is... honestly a disappointment.  I am surprised Bachmann decided to go down the route of repainting the same character again for narrow gauge instead of making a new tooling in narrow gauge to go along with Ryan (like Sir Handel).  But perhaps they want to take things slowly since narrow gauge is a more niche scale than HO?  Either way this won't be something I'll be picking up.  Hopefully Bachmann has plans to announce Sir Handel once Peter Sam and yellow Rheneas are out.

The box vans are a really interesting choice.  It looks like these will most likely be new toolings since the Peco ones are still listed at Trainworld with a different product number.  Which if that's the case I'll definitely be purchasing some once released.  Hopefully they do the same with open wagons too.

The highlight for me without a doubt is N scale Toby, as he's one of my favorite characters and he's the first character in N scale that Tomix didn't do so I'm happy to see him come to the range.  He was popular in all ranges beforehand so it's no surprise to see him so soon after James.  A purchase I'll be making day one!

N scale SC Ruffey is not a surprise I'll probably be purchasing him as well.

The large scale Paxton is probably the least surprising out all these announcements since it was technically "leaked" from Bachmann UK a few months back.  But regardless Paxton has proven to be a very well liked character, clearly well enough to get Bachmann to introduce him before 'Arry and Bert.  While I do think Paxton was a much safer option than 'Arry and Bert long term, I don't think he's gonna fly off the shelves as fast as the previous engines did, including Diesel.  I'd be very curious to see how they handle his faceplate too.

The large scale wagon recolors aren't a surprise, like the tankers I don't see these selling too well if I'm being totally honest.

Can't wait to see more info on these hopefully tomorrow at the Amherst show!  Bachmann's presentation will be at 2:30 PM East coast time so look out for that.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Falcon the 2nd on January 29, 2021, 04:50:04 PM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there's the full lineup. Like Chaz, I'll reiterate some of my initial thoughts from the other thread. :P

Ryan is a character I'm not too familiar with since he was introduced past my initial time with Thomas. Regardless, I'm still happy to see him join the lineup! He'll certainly be a worthy addition to the HO engine selection and many fans will be eager to buy him. As the range's second GCI character and an engine without an existing fixed eye mechanism to conform to, the team will hopefully have it a little easier making him than Paxton.

'Toby Feels Left Out' is an episode I've only seen once, so I'm just a little more familiar with the Museum Coach. It looks nice going by pictures on the wiki and both coaches will be welcomed in the growing group of HO rolling stock.

Yellow Rheneas was a left-field announcement, but I'm guessing the Narrow Gauge lineup has gotten old enough to the point where recolors are now viable. I'm also more familiar with this choice having also seen Blue Mountain Mystery once, but I don't even have the original Rheneas yet, so I'm not sure if I would want it. We'll most likely have to wait for a new character after Peter Sam is finished (preferably Sir Handel).

Not much else to say about the Narrow Gauge Box & Break Vans, but I could see myself buying them depending on how they look.

I'm happy to see N Scale Toby confirmed by this time! And he's the right engine to introduce now for a multitude of good reasons - he's the most cost-friendly engine to choose, his chassis could be re-used for Mavis (if she remains viable in the future) and as a whole, he is a beloved long-timer with much potential to be successful. I can't wait to see him sculpted later on and I have a feeling that I'll want to buy him when I have the chance. :)

S.C. Ruffey was a bit of an obvious choice, but I'm sure he'll turn out good as well. We surprisingly didn't get the Milk Tanker or Brake Van despite sharing many guesses with Toby & S.C. Ruffey up until now. I'll continue to hope for them as the N Scale range keeps growing. It'll likely be a good while until we can have Henrietta to compliment Toby.

I've been holding out on new toolings for Large Scale after Diesel's reconfirmation last year, but it looks like we'll have to wait a little longer. It's all understandable and acceptable, however - the pandemic is still making things hard from a manufacturing point-of-view and Diesel alone has shaped up to be a worthwhile new tooling after a long time. I'm sure most people who model Large Scale will agree that anything for it this year is better than nothing.

Paxton is a character I want Bachmann to be careful with handling in Large Scale - his HO Scale model was not well-received for the fact that his face was poorly proportioned as a result of Diesel's existing eye mechanism. With a much bigger scale to work with this time around, I hope that the team can take their time to get the face just right on Paxton. As far as I'm concerned, the most that they would have do is adjust the eye mechanism on Diesel and sculpt the face around that. It'll make the creation of him cost more, but I'm certain it'll be worth it for the long-run and that he'll sell better with a more accurate face. Hoping that my concern can be passed on to the team and taken into consideration while it's still early.

With the announcements for all ranges shared, I can safely say that Bachmann is off to a good start this year. We already have a handful of previously shared products to look forward to later this year and we now have a bunch of new ones to also anticipate in the near future. Likewise, I'll tune into tomorrow's stream and see what else they've got to share. Best of luck to the Bachmann team as the year continues - you're the best! ;)
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: JLK2707 on January 29, 2021, 05:49:42 PM
Cool! I am definitely going to be getting all of the HO scale announcements, along with the narrow gauge announcements! I will also just be getting two models of Ryan. One I will leave as him, and the other for repainting into the white tank engine from Big World! Big Adventures!
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Rodimus Supreme on January 29, 2021, 05:50:49 PM
So I wonder how many people are actually going to buy the museum coaches for Toby? I feel like more people will end up buying them to use as generic branch line coaches on their layouts, or even repurpose them as coaches meant to be pulled by one specific character.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: TrainCollector on January 29, 2021, 06:47:57 PM
I'm definitely getting HO Ryan, N scale Toby, N scale S.C. Ruffy and Large Scale Paxton. Those I was actually surprised at. I thought for sure we would get Gordon and Henry for N scale maybe next year hopefully. Really excited for these.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Angelob6660 on January 29, 2021, 08:23:06 PM
I believe their reissuing the same narrow gauge box vans with different serial number.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: TrainFan97 on January 29, 2021, 08:57:26 PM
Glad to see Ryan being confirmed for HO Scale. That means people can start an Arlesburgh-Harwick layout, now that both Ryan AND Daisy are on the horizon for HO Scale (You can even recreate the Season 20 episode "Ryan and Daisy" using these models). It's also good to see we're getting another new tooling, instead of another recolor, as people were really starting to get sick of them. Ryan will be the fourth new tooling in the HO Scale range since Mattel's takeover. First Oliver, then Rosie, then Daisy, and now Ryan.

For future new toolings in HO Scale, Stepney and BoCo both have a slim chance, since their last appearances were in the model series, but either one will sell like crazy. Norman was a character with wasted potential, since he never had an episode dedicated to him, but I think he's an interesting engine. It's just that Mattel actively refused to show Norman's full potential in the show. Stanley is another character people sometimes talk about. He's not really my favorite, but Stanley does have a unique white livery. If Salty gets brought back, Porter is another good choice for your Brendam Docks layout. The only issue with Sonny (aside from only recently appearing in Season 24) is his rather complicated siderod configuration. What should be the next new tooling after Ryan?

For HO Scale rolling stock, we're getting Toby's Museum Coaches from the Season 9 episode "Toby Feels Left Out" (only the brake coach was used). It's model series rolling stock we're getting. Still no red express coaches or tar tanker reintroductions. Still no Explosives Van, or Chocolate Syrup or Toffee Tankers.

Regarding Narrow Gauge, we now have the first engine recolor in the range, and it's one that only appeared briefly at the end of Blue Mountain Mystery. Smudger would've been a better recolor than Yellow Rheneas, or Proteus (after Sir Handel gets made). Both of them also only appeared briefly, but in the model series. Not sure what to say about the Box Vans. Because Peter Sam hasn't been released yet, maybe they weren't ready to announce Sir Handel yet.

N Scale Toby is now confirmed, so we'll already have half the original Steam Team in HO Scale. I knew that during these trying times, they're not ready to make Gordon or Henry yet, and Toby was the best bet. We're getting S.C. Ruffey for rolling stock, but no Henrietta. I'm hoping we do get Henrietta for Toby eventually. Now that Toby is coming, who should be the next N Scale engine? The best choices would be Gordon, Henry, Emily, or Edward.

Large Scale Paxton is now confirmed. Hopefully, he turns out great. The three open wagons that were made for HO Scale a few years ago are now coming to Large Scale.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: RailwayRoundhouse on January 30, 2021, 06:22:05 AM
Considering the fact that Bachmann is still working to release previous products like Daisy and Peter Sam, this is actually a really good line up. I didn't think we'd be getting any new toolings this year. Certainly a nice surprise.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Mulfred100 on January 30, 2021, 07:11:44 AM
Again I'm echoing what I said previously in the 2021 predictions thread. I'm pretty happy with Ryan. I think he will be an excellent addition to the HO range along side Daisy and if they had to make any CGI character I wanted him. I'm not overly familiar with Toby's museum coaches but I'm sure there was only one in the show however I'm probably wrong. Yellow Rheneas is a bit of a dud one for me personally. I'm not a fan of the whole recolour trend and I'm a bit shocked they chose Yellow Rheneas over Smudger. Yeah sumdger only appeared once years ago but he still had alot of merchandise and I hope Smudger is something that Bachmann will consider in the future. Narrow Gauge box vans also threw me abit. I mean we have box vans. Sure they aren't massive sellers but how will these vans be different but theres not image to go off yet so. N Scale Toby and S.c.Ruffy were obvious picks but great little additions to the range never the less. I was a little surprised with Large Scale Paxton. I thought we would get him but might have been next year but its really nice to see the Large Scale range grow a bit more. Wonder how long it will be before They announce Arry and Bert in Large Scale. As for the rolling stock again just nice to have a bit new rolling stock in the range. Thank you bachmann. I know people are disappointed with some of these announcements. I myself I'm not jumping for joy over Yellow Rheneas and I know others are annoyed about Ryan being introduced over Stepney but again Ryan has a lovely basis and will look grand next to Daisy and is probably my favourite CGI introduced character. Other new engines will be along soon so please be patient and remember that we are still recoving from 2020.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: shining time on January 30, 2021, 10:52:24 AM
glad for the new releases like Ryan and n scale Toby/S.C. Ruffy, was kind of hoping for Sir Handel but yellow Rheneas will at least be a collectors item. Also glad the large scale line is getting some new items as well
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: TrainFan97 on January 30, 2021, 01:21:49 PM
It's great that we're indeed getting Ryan to go along with Daisy. I'm still hoping we'd get Sidney at some point in the near future for HO Scale, so we can be done with the Class 08 characters, but I understand. Bachmann must have known that people were really starting to get sick of the amount of recolors in the HO range, so they announced Ryan, another new tooling, to break the monotony.

Which new tooling is most likely next for HO Scale?
-Stepney (last appearance in model series)
-BoCo (last appearance in model series)
-Stanley (unique white livery)
-Porter (would be great if Salty comes back)
-Samson (they'd need to make Bradford to go with him)
-Whiff (they'd need to make Scruff to go with him)
-Den (they'd need to make Dart to go with him)
-Norman (not frequently used in the show, nor did he have a dedicated episode, but people can show his potential with their own stories with him)
-Timothy (not frequently used in the show, but would go good with Bill and Ben, but Marion is too gimmicky)
-Hiro (very popular choice, but he's quite a big and detailed engine)

If they can't announce model series characters like BoCo or Stepney, which character used in the CGI series would be best for next?
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Falcon the 2nd on January 30, 2021, 02:06:14 PM
Either Hiro or Porter would be my picks if the options were restricted to GCI characters:

I'm a little surprised there haven't been much mentions of Stephen, Gator or Glynn at this point, though there could be unique issues that prevent them from being considered possible.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Chaz on January 30, 2021, 02:07:12 PM
https://resources.bachmanntrains.com/bachmann2021/html5/index.html

The catalog is up!  The large scale Paxton is up and finished and they did a much better job on his face than the HO model.

In addition we are getting HO models of Thomas and Percy with DCC and Sound!  Never thought I would see Bachmann include DCC and sound in their HO models after putting it off for so long so that's super exciting to see!

Also the prices went up again (no shock there) but Ryan's RRP is only a few dollars behind Spencer... yikes.

Quote from: Angelob6660 on January 29, 2021, 08:23:06 PM
I believe their reissuing the same narrow gauge box vans with different serial number.

Yeah about that... check the catalog.  Bachmann discontinued the Peco ones but instead announced them with a new product number, cheaper price and new pictures from the show.  These are going to be new toolings like the coaches/brake vans.  Likely due to the poor sales from the Peco recolors.

Hope this means we are getting more accurate narrow gauge open wagons at some point too.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Falcon the 2nd on January 30, 2021, 02:25:17 PM
The photo of Large Scale Paxton is the highlight of the catalogue for me - they surprisingly have him ready right off the bat!

It looks like they listened to what fans said about the HO model a few years back and worked hard to make this one better. Giving him a slightly more neutral expression this time around certainly helped. If he was in production at the same time as Diesel, it was likely the smartest move made. Props to the Bachmann team for improving upon Paxton in Large Scale - he looks great! :)

I don't have much to say about the DCC Thomas and Percy on the other hand since I'm not into DCC yet, but a few more surprise announcements are still welcomed.

Ryan's price is admittedly a bit much, especially since he costs more than Daisy, but I'm sure he'll still be well worth the purchase.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Hilux5972 on January 30, 2021, 02:31:26 PM
A bit disappointed the catalogue doesn't even have a drawing of Daisy. Even the new museum coaches have a drawing. Daisy was announced over a year ago. Doesn't give much hope of seeing any progress in the next live stream video. And where is yellow Rheneas from?
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Cheeky_ULP on January 30, 2021, 02:40:31 PM
Hopefully we don't have to wait very long for high-resolution images of Large Scale Paxton and Diesel..
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Chaz on January 30, 2021, 02:53:59 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/3c42a3196d0b992cb93042d923972b55.png)

Loving the museum coaches!

It was nice seeing large scale Diesel and Paxton in the stream too
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Rodimus Supreme on January 30, 2021, 05:58:36 PM
https://youtu.be/xGq9huBLbRw
Here's the video showing off the new Thomas stuff that includes Large Scale Paxton, Toby's Museum Coaches, and a look at Large Scale Diesel's eye mechanism at work.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: TrainFan97 on January 31, 2021, 01:13:38 AM
We're finally getting HO Scale DCC sound equipped models, as they've been a very popular request for some time now. The first ones will be Thomas and Percy.

Ryan will be the first new tooling in the HO range of a character who originated from the CGI series.

Now that Toby got confirmed, what should be the next N Scale engine? Possibilities include Gordon, Henry, Emily, and Edward.

On the topic of new toolings for HO Scale engines, I'm reposting what I said before in my previous reply, but with a few additions.

Which new tooling is most likely next for HO Scale?

-Stepney (last appearance in model series)
-BoCo (last appearance in model series)
-Stanley (unique white livery)
-Porter (would be great if Salty comes back)
-Samson (they'd need to make Bradford to go with him)
-Whiff (they'd need to make Scruff to go with him)
-Den (they'd need to make Dart to go with him)
-Norman (not frequently used in the show, nor did he have a dedicated episode, but people can show his potential with their own stories with him)
-Timothy (not frequently used in the show, but would go good with Bill and Ben, but Marion is too gimmicky)
-Hiro (very popular choice, but he's quite a big and detailed engine)
-Gator (only appeared in Tale of the Brave and Season 18, but would be another longer engine)
-Glynn (would be an awkward design, but is he impossible?)
-Stephen (same as Glynn)

If we can't get model series characters like BoCo or Stepney, which characters from the CGI series would be most possible, or best received? For me, my favorites would be Porter, Timothy, and Norman. Hiro could be the first tender engine to be made since Donald and Douglas. Unlike Norman, at least Timothy had a few episodes dedicated to him. Timothy would be a small and simple engine for Bachmann to make, and he's also a likeable CGI character. Norman's tooling can be reused to make Dennis.

Someone responded with Hiro and Porter being possibilities, but I'd like to hear what others think. Which ones are to vouch for next?
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Falcon the 2nd on January 31, 2021, 11:34:05 AM
I already shared my input on HO scale engines, so I'll do the same with N Scale.

For me, what N Scale engine(s) should be made in the future heavily depends on how much longer the pandemic is active and how Bachmann will continue being affected:

I'd like to hear what others think about possibilities of future engines for HO and/or N Scale.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: TerencetheTractor525 on January 31, 2021, 01:50:29 PM
It is that time of year again! Before I go into my thoughts on the new announcements for 2021, I wanted to thank Doug Blaine of Bachmann Trains for taking the time to make Thomas videos for last Wednesday's TrainWorld stream as well as the Amherst stream that occurred yesterday. I hope that this is something that can be done more in the future, as it was very nice to hear about the updates on all the upcoming products such as Daisy. Looking forward to the exclusive TrainWorld stream on February 18th as well!

Now for my thoughts:

First in line are HO Thomas & Percy with DCC Sound & Board, a great announcement! Even though I do not plan to purchase these, I know that many other Thomas fans wanted to see these made and am glad that Bachmann came through with the request.

Next to discuss is the new HO engine: Ryan. Initially, I was frankly somewhat frustrated with this announcement as I was hoping to see Stepney as the next HO engine with tooling announced, especially after all the time and effort that was put into explaining why and how he was the number one engine with new tooling that everyone wanted to see announced next. However, seeing that Ryan does go hand in hand with Daisy in the CGI era, I understand why Bachmann resorted to announcing him first, and I do look forward to seeing how the model turns out. Specifically, I hope that the HO Ryan will have an open cab, like the Rosie model.

In response to TrainFan97's posts on future HO engines, if I am going to be honest, I do not think that we are going to see any more newly tooled HO engines for at least a few years. This also explains why I was slightly frustrated with Ryan's announcement over Stepney. Nonetheless, here's hoping that Stepney is still a possibility for the future, as none of the other CGI engines interest me except for Hiro and Sidney to an extent.

Moving on to Toby's Museum Coaches, these were a very nice surprise! As someone who cherishes the model era of the Thomas television series, it is nice to see another announcement from that era. In yesterday's stream, the models looked absolutely stunning, and even though the brake coach only appeared in the television series, I will happily be purchasing both of them once they are released.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ttte/images/6/6c/EmilyandtheSpecialCoaches69.png/revision/latest?cb=20150929164057)

With the museum coaches announced, one other coach that I would love to see and purchase from the model era is Gordon's Special Coach. Considering that it is a repaint of Spencer's Special Coach, I could see this as another possibility for the future.

In terms of narrow gauge, while I do not mind the announcement of Yellow Rheneas as a recolor, I do concur with others who have stated that Smudger would have been a better announcement as a recolor. Yellow Rheneas was certainly an odd choice, and I do not plan to purchase this one.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ttte/images/7/78/Granpuff32.png/revision/latest?cb=20160116205223)

Yet, overall, given that engine recolors can now happen in narrow gauge, I hope to see Smudger announced in the next few years. Would purchase a Bachmann Smudger model in a heartbeat!

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ttte/images/1/16/PeterSamandtheRefreshmentLady3.png/revision/latest?cb=20190717215617)

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ttte/images/e/ea/Granpuff56.png/revision/latest?cb=20160116210335)

On the other hand, the newly announced narrow gauge box vans were a pleasant surprise, and a very smart move by Bachmann for multiple reasons. Firstly, in the television series, they are almost the same tooling as the narrow gauge brake vans, but without the ticket windows and door detail, making them an easy, but effective new tooling for avid fans. The price is much more reasonable than the previously announced Peco ones as well. Overall, if Bachmann bases the new tooling for these vans on the model from the television series, I will definitely consider purchasing two red box vans, and maybe even one blue box van.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ttte/images/e/e8/DuncanAndTheOldMine72.png/revision/latest?cb=20170362219462)

Here's hoping that the same can be done with accurate narrow gauge open wagons next year, but that is a completely different discussion for another time.

For N Scale, I am thrilled to see Toby joining the line, and look forward to seeing how the model will turn out, as it is the first engine in the Bachmann N Scale Thomas line that Tomix has not already tackled. After him, I hope to see Gordon announced, but Emily seems more likely to me as of now. S.C.Ruffey was inevitable, but a welcome addition, nonetheless.

Finally, for Large Scale, I think that it is fair to state that everyone saw Paxton coming after Diesel's announcement, considering that both models utilize the same tooling. However, it is wonderful to see that Bachmann took the time to adjust Paxton's eye mechanism in order to make a face plate that is more accurate to how he appeared in the show. As for the rolling stock recolors, there is nothing to really state, other than the fact that it would still be nice to see the red branch line coaches announced for Large Scale in the coming years, especially with Toby's Museum Coaches as recolors that could be announced afterwards as well. Yet, that too, is a discussion for another time.

In regards to discontinued products, in addition to the original narrow gauge red and blue box vans that were based on the Peco tooling, it seems that the HO Cargo Car, Cream Tanker, and Round Water Tower are now discontinued. The discontinuation of the round water tower is the most surprising to me, given the countless times it appeared in the show and very reasonable retail price. However, I am relieved to see that no resin buildings have been discontinued for this year, given how wonderful those models truly are.

All in all, the announcements for this year are solid. The only factors that slightly disappoint me are that Ryan was chosen over Stepney as the new HO engine with new tooling, and the same goes for Yellow Rheneas and Smudger. Yet, given the circumstances stated above, here's hoping that Stepney and Smudger can still be a possibility for the future. I would be ecstatic to see both of those announced at some point.

Thank you very much to everyone at Bachmann Industries, and I look forward to watching the exclusive Bachmann Thomas TrainWorld Stream in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: TrainFan97 on January 31, 2021, 03:59:09 PM
I do understand why Ryan was chosen over Stepney. Daisy is coming soon, and Ryan would be perfect to join immediately following her. Neither Daisy nor Ryan have images yet, but they do have prices, which is a sign they both could be coming this year. I wouldn't bet on Ryan coming this year, but Daisy is definitely coming this year for sure.

Terence, I understand you're not a fan of CGI characters. I was just asking which ones would be best-received if we can't get characters that last appeared in the model series. I know many are frustrated that Ryan was chosen over Stepney, but we can keep requesting Bachmann to make him until they do. He's been in popular demand for many years. Look how long it took for Bachmann to finally make DCC sound equipped models in the HO range.

Given that the HO range now has two new toolings on the horizon, we may not get another new tooling for at least a few years, but it would be nice if after Daisy gets released, another new tooling would have a chance after Ryan. We most likely would get another recolor following Ryan, and if we do, we can hope it's Sidney, who is a character I've been wanting done for years now, just so we can finally wrap up the Class 08 diesel shunters in HO Scale.

For HO Scale rolling stock, are we getting the Explosives Van, Chocolate Syrup and Toffee Tankers, or not? They've been exclusive to Large Scale for years now. At least the Museum Coaches were actually in the show, although only the brake coach was used. Another great rolling stock recolor Terence mentioned was Gordon's Special Coaches, which were also in the show. Maybe we can get those in the near future. I also want to see the Orange Coaches (that are not Annie and Clarabel).
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: JLK2707 on January 31, 2021, 04:09:48 PM
Dear bachmann staff,

Hello, my name is Jordan. I would like to suggest the following for the NMRA in 2021:

HO Scale:

Stepney
Explosives van
Reintroduced tar tanker
Chocolate syrup tanker
Toffee tanker
Sidney
Reintroduced red express coaches
Troublesome truck #7
Troublesome truck #8

Narrow gauge:

Smudger
D Fusit gunpowder van

Large scale:

Henrietta
Troublesome truck 3
Red coaches - composite and brake

N scale:

Henrietta
Spiteful brake van
Gordon
Henry
Edward
Duck
Emily
Emily's coaches
Troublesome trucks 3, 4, 5 and 6
Express coaches
Tar tanker
Milk tanker




Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Angelob6660 on January 31, 2021, 04:35:19 PM
In the video he didn't give a release date when or if Origin James is even out.

I believe that Peter Sam will be arriving late Nov/Dec this year. My intuition is he'll be available for next year.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: GordonPacific04 on January 31, 2021, 10:37:25 PM
Definitely would've preferred to see Stepney, however I am very Happy with Ryan as he is one of the best CGI characters.

The museum coaches I initially wasn't all to thrilled about, however once I saw them on the layout, they looked absolutely stunning.

I highly doubt Yellow Rhenaes will sell well, considering he's a more expensive narrow gauge engine, and his appearance wasn't as iconic as the Thomas, James, or Rosie recolors. Honestly, this may seem a little harsh, but I think Bachmann would just be better off canceling Yellow Rhenaes altogether. Cancelations haven't happened much, but honestly given the feedback, I think it would be for the best. I just don't know how feasible that would be.

Paxton looks fantastic as well. Very curious on how they did the eye mechanism.

Overall, I'm quite happy with this years announcements. 
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: FfarquharStudios on January 31, 2021, 10:56:08 PM
Im not really into G scale Thomas & Friends so i will touch on Narrow Gauge and HO . . I am disappointed in the Ryan Announcement I Feel If We Were going to get another tank Engine it should have been Stepney. I'll be Honest i feel a Yellow Rheneas was a Huge Waste and To see that a recolor of him is to be released and its not Smudger its a disappointment I Dont think Bachmann listens to the Fans we dont ask for much and i feel theres a Bit of Laziness on Bachmann's part . . Im not a CGI fan and im almost confident that most of the Buyers of Bachmann T&F are from the Model Railway era I feel before you touch on the New Less rememberable characters you should first take care of the OG's i wont Lie even though i dont watch CGI era T&F i actually have heard of Ryan before so im guessing there is some popularity there But i feel Stepney should have been released first think about the Amount of people that would spend the Money to get Stepney on their Layout
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: JLK2707 on February 02, 2021, 02:44:04 AM
But then he could just be made as a 3D printed model.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Angelob6660 on February 02, 2021, 09:37:18 AM
To be honest. When I read yellow my mind instantly thought of Duncan. I thought what was weird putting yellow in front of Duncan just in case you're not aware of his color. Than the name Rheneas and said oh that explains it. Already for recolors before the others are finished.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Toad139 on February 02, 2021, 04:30:08 PM
I took some time to gather my thoughts regarding this year's announcements, and overall, I am quite happy.

Ryan definitely makes sense as Bachmann's next engine, he is a modern character and fits nicely with Daisy being announced. I would have personally preferred a model series character such as Stepney or Stanley, but I'm not disappointed. Ryan will be the largest engine Bachmann has made in quite a while so that's exciting to see. I'm sure his model will turn out great.

The museum coaches look great, I'm glad they gave them proper white rimmed wheels too. I initially didn't care too much for them, but after seeing how nice their models are, I will probably pick them up once released.

I have no interest in Yellow Rheneas. I'm not surprised there isn't a new engine announcement this year because of Covid and all the delays that occurred as a result, but Yellow Rheneas seems quite pointless.

I hope the new box vans turn out nice, I would love to see TV Series accurate open trucks as well, although I think they are just making these vans because they are already making breakevens that share the same tooling, but you never know what could happen in the future.

Toby and S.C. Ruffy are great choices for N Scale, I will probably pick these up one day.

G Scale Paxton is a nice surprise as well, and his face looks great. The new G scale wagons are nothing special, but it is always great to see them expanding the range.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Rodimus Supreme on February 03, 2021, 11:24:00 AM
It could've been worse, but it could've been better. It wasn't an outright disappointment, but it was somewhat surprising.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: clrp5150 on February 05, 2021, 06:10:43 PM
Ryan - One of my favorite CGI-exclusive characters, but I'm not into the CGI series too much, and I would much rather have Stepney, but I'm happy for the people that wanted him
Toby's Museum Coaches - I don't like the New series very much either, but they're some of the most recent rolling stock in the show that isn't obviously meant to sell toys, so I like them even if I don't plan to get them
Yellow Rheneas - Even if I collected the Skarloey Railway stuff, I wouldn't get him. It's too early and gimmicky for a narrow gauge recolor
Narrow Gauge Box Vans - I couldn't care less either way
N scale
Toby - I don't collect N gauge but he was probably the best option for the fourth engine in the line
Scruffey - Very expected, but still cool I guess
Large Scale
Paxton - One of my favorite CGI-exclusive characters along with Ryan, but I don't collect G scale and I personally think it's a bit too early to release him, but it's fine, I don't care
HO scale wagon recolors from a few years back - I don't care
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Metal on February 05, 2021, 06:28:57 PM
So I guess I'll posts my thoughts

I personally think that Ryan is a pretty good choice.

There's reasons why he has a wide appeal for a CGI character. The Brenner era characters while feeling inspired and well utilized, most of them are very gimmicky from and aesthetic standpoint. Stephen and Marion for example, are perhaps the most received characters, happen to be as such. Ryan however is the most normal engine we've seen for some time. He feels like a character that would fit in the classic series. Also given that he's not only paired up with Daisy a classic character that was given a lot of starring episodes compared to the model series itself. Ryan in the show had the most affiliation with the Little Western characters. Which are Bachmann's best sellers, so I think Ryan will fair well for the range.

Personally I'm not a fan of N Scale in general, but I'm curious to see the range expand.

Also with LS range, I really find Paxton to be the highlight of the range despite being a repaint, the face is obviously a major step-up from his HO counterpart.

Other then Stepney and perhaps Boco.

I think Hiro could make it into the range, despite being a tender engine. He has a strong following in Japan, which is a huge Thomas market.
Stephen is too small for the moving eye mechanism, and Marion is too gimmicky for Bachmann and those characters with normal designs such as Charlie, Nia and Rebecca are the most loathed characters.

Overall, Stepney, Boco, and Hiro are perhaps the few characters I could think of for HO/OO.

Stephen could work as an Large Scale Engine though.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: clrp5150 on February 05, 2021, 09:47:36 PM
Nia doesn't have a very "normal" design in my opinion
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: rallinen on March 27, 2021, 09:45:08 PM
I have switched from HO to Large Scale.  As a member of a group of G scale we usually run trains for a number of events, exception was 2020. Anyway, running Thomas is a big hit with the kids. Have converted Thomas to battery power and RC control. Also added sound and lights. Next project is Percy.   I would like to get a Toby for my collection but waiting for  Bachmann to offer  Henrietta .   like to run cars behind the engines that one would have normally seen in the episodes.  For Toby its Henrietta.

Considering Covid shut down last year I am glad Bachmann is still producing large scale, so as it maybe. Slow is certainly better that none at all.


Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Chaz on April 03, 2021, 09:32:18 PM
Some better pics of the large scale Diesel and Paxton:

(https://i.gyazo.com/50815393df64bae8c005f02612a611d6.jpg)

(https://i.gyazo.com/669918f97db57ad56cb3dcc584211f37.jpg)

(https://i.gyazo.com/d74f6e9e1c24adb827db0f82c22b8538.jpg)

(https://i.gyazo.com/b04ac5e8bffab9fa7bd37fd8d03d4cf6.jpg)
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Armada Starscream on April 17, 2021, 03:57:05 PM
Hey, how many modelers you suppose will make the Toby's Museum Coaches into Alice, Mirabel, Isabel, and Dulcie?

That would be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Armada Starscream on April 17, 2021, 06:12:46 PM
I meant Duck and Olivers Autocoaches.

I guess in general I wonder if modelers will use Museum Coaches rather than Red Coaches, seeing how the Museum Coaches look like they are in GWR Livery.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Angelob6660 on April 18, 2021, 12:29:23 PM
The slip coaches are about the same length of the express cars. It has two cabbage department on both sides and 5 doors in between. This will require new tooling.  

I would like to see the old coaches from season 1. Although the old coaches has 5 doors instead of the 4 doors on the branch line coaches. It be nice to see them.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: Armada Starscream on April 18, 2021, 06:45:21 PM
Maybe they could modify the Spencers Coaches to get started on the Slip Coaches?

I would love to see the Old Coaches as well. It has been a while since we got a new rolling stock tooling, and the Old Coaches are very popular with fans and modelers, so there is indeed a demand.

And if Bachmann needs more incentive, they could also recolor the Old Coach toolings to make Teak Old Coaches, as seen here.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ttte/images/f/f7/LNERTeakCoaches.png/revision/latest?cb=20170514050003

They are making more obscure Rolling Stock like the Museum Coaches after all.
Title: Re: Bachmann's 2021 Thomas & Friends Announcements!
Post by: TTL on April 20, 2021, 03:17:17 PM
Yeah but with things like the museum coaches, they were LBSCR 4 wheelers anyway. Every bogie coach in the range is an LMS coach, quite far off from a GWR slip, even the ones in the show.
Old Coaches I could see, being a quick recolor variant.