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Title: Next
Post by: Doug.Oaks on January 09, 2008, 03:40:07 PM
Okay, now we have great Shays and Kays, it is time to start bugging Bachmann about what's next. The obvious next loco is a C-16. Consider the variations, not just the Colorado ones that we all love, but the Ohio, Michigan, and Indiana lines as well.

Doug
Title: Re: Next
Post by: John B on January 09, 2008, 05:21:05 PM
AristoCrft is coming out with an updated C-16 in 1:24 scale soon.  Though it would be nice in 1:20.3 to compliment the K-27, the market may not support both.

I would like to see an updated Climax or a Forney. :)  But with BM's policy of keeping new items a secret we may not know the next item to come out until it's almost ready. :-X
Title: Re: Next
Post by: leftyfretguy on January 09, 2008, 05:57:48 PM
When you say "the obvious next loco is a c-16" I am sure what you mean is "the obvious next loco AFTER an E.B.T. mike is a c-16.  Some how the middle of your sentence was cut out ;D
btw. have to agree on the climax and forney - of course AFTER an E.B.T. mike!
Matt
Title: Re: Next
Post by: calenelson on January 09, 2008, 06:08:24 PM
Climax, Forney, Mike(EBT)....any order would be fine
Title: Re: Next
Post by: bob kaplan on January 09, 2008, 06:26:04 PM
i would enjoy and EBT Mike as well...but something a bit smaller would be good....EBT had a great little 2-6-2.... (# 11)i know it was not a common engine...but at least it was a some what modern prototype.   We i would like something with a bit of an "eastern" flavor to it. ;D
Title: Re: Next
Post by: Matthew (OV) on January 09, 2008, 10:40:51 PM
Well, if we're gonna do a 2-6-2, how about WP&Y #4?

(http://narrowmind.railfan.net/WPYR/late-steam/2nd_4_blw.JPG)

Matthew (OV)

(Personally, my new pet steam project will be WP&Y81/SVRY #19, but as long as it's not the return of the Vulcan, I'm cool...)
Title: Re: Next
Post by: Doug.Oaks on January 10, 2008, 08:33:10 AM
I would have been really disappointed if there hadn't been a strong response from the EBT fans. I guess my arm could be twisted to buy an EBT engine.
Title: Re: Next
Post by: Colorado on January 10, 2008, 11:27:51 AM
The Aristocraft C16 is in a completely different scale, they would look silly next to each other.

Mason Bogie for me.
Title: Re: Next
Post by: Kevin Strong on January 10, 2008, 01:09:53 PM
Quote from: PCCfan on January 10, 2008, 08:33:10 AM
I would have been really disappointed if there hadn't been a strong response from the EBT fans. I guess my arm could be twisted to buy an EBT engine.
Oh, don't worry. We EBT fans are more than willing to twist a few arms.  8)
I'd like to see an inside-frame 2-8-0 also. It doesn't have to be a C-16/19, though both would make great prototypes. After the EBT mikado, of course.

Later,

K
Title: Re: Next
Post by: John B on January 10, 2008, 01:13:18 PM
How about this 55 ton Climax...


http://www.mountainrail.com/durbinrocket.htm
Title: Re: Next
Post by: Old Iron on January 10, 2008, 02:48:18 PM
EBT mike, please.
Title: Re: Next
Post by: TJ-Lee on January 10, 2008, 03:39:27 PM
I'd buy a reissued Climax should Bachmann be disposed to release one.

Best,
TJ
Title: Re: Next
Post by: glennk28 on January 10, 2008, 08:37:22 PM
Would there be enough parts in common to do both versions of an inside-frame Mikado?  EBT and WP&Y?

The Aristo/Delton C-16 would be aboiut 20% smaller than a 1:20.3 scale loco. 

Before anything else--how about fixing that Knuckle coupler--get a pair of Accucraft couplers and see what I'm referring to--The Bachmann knuckles are boxy--gj
Title: Re: Next
Post by: John B on January 18, 2008, 12:24:48 PM
Mr. Bach-Man,

Any hints on what is planned?
Title: Re: Next
Post by: tommygunner on January 18, 2008, 04:00:29 PM
Since this is becoming a Christmas wish list...make mine a C-19 RGS 41. C-19 is a great chice as it ran on at least 3 different RRs and 3 still survive( # 41 , 346 & 340)
Has any one counted how many locos B-man delivered almost in time for Christmas!!!
Title: Re: Next
Post by: Ricky on January 18, 2008, 11:29:56 PM
I'll agree with the W.P.&Y. #4.
..also, alarger Shay...modeled after the former West Side Lumber Co. engine that is now Yosemite Mountain & Sugar Pine Railroad #15.
...But...
like I said in another topic....the one I REALLY want is a K36 or K37...(maybe even lettered for the Cumbres & Toltec?).
...
...OK...how about ALL of the above?!!! ;D
...and ALL of the ones everyone else has mentioned too?

Rick
Title: Re: Next
Post by: John B on January 19, 2008, 09:48:30 AM
The C-19 would be nice.  Something in between the Connie and Kay.

http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00007514
Title: Re: Next
Post by: John B on January 31, 2008, 11:19:34 AM
Mr. Bach Man,

Have we returned to the "who's name shall not be spoken" as far as future items?
Title: Re: Next
Post by: JerryB on January 31, 2008, 12:28:08 PM
I've seen several folks asking for a "Larger Shay", citing the Westside Lumber Co. / Yosemite Mountain Sugar Pine RR #15. For what it's it worth, #15 is a 60 ton engine. That isn't significantly different from the 55 tons of Bachmann's current three truck Shay.

I haven't directly compared the dimensions of the B'mann 55 tonner with the #15, but eyeballing them, it looks as if they are pretty close.

Now if we want a larger three truck NG Shay, we should probably ask for something along the lines of WSLCo. / YMSPRR #10. That machine is an 83 tonner and is one of the heaviest NG gauge Shays built. It really does look different!

See more at the YMSPRR webste:
http://www.ymsprr.com/about.html (http://www.ymsprr.com/about.html)

BTW, my vote goes for a modernized 2-6-0 based on the Centennial mechanism. Something along the lines of Nevada County Narrow Gauge #5.

Or as an alternative, a modernized 2-8-0 like Nevada-California-Oregon #14 / Southern Pacific #1 / NCNG #9 / U.S. Navy #L17. Both the #5 and the #9 are really special to later-day Pacific Coast NG RRing.

See more about these engines at the NCNG website:
http://www.ncngrrmuseum.org/pb/wp_c65d458f.html?0.9213144429592949 (http://www.ncngrrmuseum.org/pb/wp_c65d458f.html?0.9213144429592949)

Happy RRing,

Jerry
Title: Re: Next
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on January 31, 2008, 05:25:47 PM
Time for somthing really different.  How about a Plymouth Critter. or an articulated Logging loco!!!   

You EBT guys already have enough stuff!! ;D ::)
Title: Re: Next
Post by: JerryB on January 31, 2008, 05:40:02 PM
Quote from: Loco Bill Canelos on January 31, 2008, 05:25:47 PM
Time for somthing really different.  How about a Plymouth Critter. or an articulated Logging loco!!!

Either of those would work.

So many choices, so little time (and cash)!!

Happy RRing,

Jerry
Title: Re: Next
Post by: grumpy on January 31, 2008, 09:04:24 PM
How about a logging  2-6-6-2 with side tanks.
Don
Title: Re: Next
Post by: smcgill on February 01, 2008, 08:19:51 AM
How about bringing this to 1:20 !
(http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/gallery/albums/album38/aaa.jpg)
Title: Re: Next
Post by: John B on February 01, 2008, 09:14:50 AM
The two stroker would be nice but BM has already produced 3 shays. 
Title: Re: Next
Post by: Jon D. Miller on February 01, 2008, 12:56:12 PM
Before we all go off into Fantasy Land how about Bachmann getting the K-27 corrected.  A little bag of brass shims just doesn't cut it. 

Rather than take a "straw pole" on the next great locomotive from Bachmann let's get what has just be released properly correct.  Then we can all indulge in our flights of fancy on the next locomotive! :o


JD
Title: Re: Next
Post by: John B on February 01, 2008, 02:25:40 PM
Jon,

Everyone might not want something as large and expensive as the Kay.  So we are stilling waiting.   Besides,  the designers must be in work on whatever is next.

John
Title: Re: Next
Post by: calenelson on February 01, 2008, 03:30:31 PM
John B, I agree (as to price point!)....a little Mason, or a Smallish Mogul (again), anything Eastern!

Jon D....the stones tell me a "real fix" is a comin'.....we'll see!

cale
Title: Re: Next
Post by: Phil Stump on February 01, 2008, 09:12:44 PM
I would like to see , rather than another new engine, some nice jackson & sharp passenger cars and combines at a price we mere mortals can afford.
Title: Re: Next
Post by: calenelson on February 01, 2008, 09:12:53 PM
stones were right again!

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,4303.0.html (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,4303.0.html)
Title: Re: Next
Post by: Kevin Strong on February 01, 2008, 11:53:05 PM
Quote from: Phil Stump on February 01, 2008, 09:12:44 PM
I would like to see , rather than another new engine, some nice jackson & sharp passenger cars and combines at a price we mere mortals can afford.
I think the Accucraft coaches are about as close as we're going to come to that. Bachmann's and Accucraft's 1:20 freight rolling stock is fairly evenly priced, so there's no reason to believe that Bachmann can produce a coach for much less.

I'd like to see Bachmann come out with a coach, but something a bit more generic, or at the very least not D&RGW, for the rest of us. A nice 13-window board-and-batten coach would fit any number of narrow gauge railroads.

Later,

K
Title: Re: Next
Post by: grumpy on February 02, 2008, 12:29:08 AM
The Bachman J&S coaches are priced from $44.95 - $49.95 at Trainworld and St. Aubins . Vey reasonably priced for the quality and detail. All the turns on my layout are 4'0 so I go to the shorter loco's and would appreciate more being offered .
Don
Title: Re: Next
Post by: scottychaos on February 02, 2008, 05:19:09 PM
Quote from: John B on February 01, 2008, 09:14:50 AM
The two stroker would be nice but BM has already produced 3 shays. 

actually..its more like three different versions of the same shay.

First was the original shay.

then it was re-released with improved drivetrain, but essentially the same body.

Then the three-truck Shay came out..again, same body, but with the third truck.

From my perspective, there has been only one Bachmann Large Scale Shay..
just in different flavors.

Scot
Title: Re: Next
Post by: David Fletcher on February 02, 2008, 06:45:39 PM
For a long time I've supported a C-19, various road name options, incl outside of Colorado..an inside frame 2-8-0, US based would have a load of applications.  Also support a smallish loco such as the 2-6-2.

Personally, I had my fill of geared locos, I dont care for anymore of any type, even if they are repaints.

Fletch.