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MTH announced their next locomotive (after their triplex and K-4). It's a Southern Pacific GS-4.
http://www.mthhotrains.com/news.asp (http://www.mthhotrains.com/news.asp)
I see they will offer a de-streamlined version.
Can the HO market bear it?
Mike Wolf has more money than brains. And here is another fine example of over saturation of stuff already on the market and/or planned by other manufacturers.
Mike, are you listening, you have now offerd three locos, and not one modeler I know has bought or will buy any of them. I know you think your control system is "superior" to everything else and you think that justifies your choices, but you are kidding yourself.
Just look at Broadway and Athearn, they are retreating from the all DCC, all sound position, let alone a proprietary system like you have. And my trains run on 12 volts not 16.
Sheldon
Over saturation? There is not one accurate SP GS-4 model out there in HO scale that is not brass. I have been waiting and waiting for someone to make a good GS-4, and I am some excited about this model. Finally, a model of 4449 I can run on my layout.
Oh yes, Precision Craft does say it will make a GS-4. I spoke to them in 2006, and they said it "was right around the corner". Kato just released a beautiful GS-4 in N scale, but that does not do me much good. Great news for the N scale guys though. ;D
Another MTH announcement? Lasted about 5 minutes.
Counting down
Yampa
Yea.............lets all run out and buy new DCC systems (MTH) and start over yet again with everything being UN compatible with ALL the rest of the worlds Dcc, Just to run 1 train.
This stuff will die its own Horrible death........and in the future when these locos and systems get split up from estate sales ect ..they will rot away because no one will have whats needed to run them.......Unlike standard DCC that will survive to become tomorrows classics......and still be runable on any basic DCC system.
Heck why don't they go ahead and make their own goofy hard to find track gauge/spacing also that no store will stock, and
be shure no one can run the things.........
Might as well get the rest of my nickel in before this thread is pulled.
Bachmann cares about the future of trains. They have something for every taste and pocketbook. I'm anxious to get their new 275 page catalog, last years was 219. They are modelers serving modelers.
I don't even read the ads for other locos anymore, I have 10 now, all Bachmann. They are all DCC equipped, but I'm still running them DC. I have a choice.
Quality at a reasonable price, best warranty in the business. Am I missing out on something? Not that I've noticed.
My eyes are old, but I believe it says "Bachmann Message Board" at the top.
Bob
Very nice engine! I must get one! (Along with some passenger cars for it :P)
Alex
I wonder if the GS6 will have the correct size of drivers?
Bachmanns GS-4 is priced right, & that means anyone can get BIG Steam on their layout for a reasonable price. But it isn't Spectrum quality, & I have been spoiled by it.
It's a pity Bachmann didn't release it in Spectrum grade.
So, I'm going to wait for the BLi/PCM version.....whenever that will be.
Why do wolves bay at the moon?
maybe worried their GS-4's won't sell!
MTH's GS-4/6 works on DCC also, you just can't access all 29 functions. (Unless you have that NCE thing and its smart booster)
I'll probably get one, my bachmann one can't be converted to DCC without hardwiring stuff, and that my friend, I am not good at.
I don't understand why everyone "strongly dislikes" M.T.H.'s locomotives. They run to near perfection. They smoke like there's no tommorrow, they run smooth, the sound is incredible...I don't get it!
Sure, their first runs have some flaws, but *newsflash* so does everyone else. If you want a "good one" wait for the second run, or the third, if it suits you.
I myself am waiting for the 2nd & 3rd run of the Triplexes before I get one, just in case. I heard there were some minor flaws with it, so I'll be patient, just like I'm being patient for Rapido's Turbotrain, which I know will be a GREAT model for sure.
P.S. I got a Bachmann Climax for my Birthday...I still can't figure out where my parents found it!
Part of the problem with MTH is the owner. Another problem is in some of their ads, which are insulting to say the least.
Gene
So the ads ARE in code... >:(
HI EVERYONE ;D
I like MTH here and there, I used to have a lot of it on O Scale, but I have to agree with what some of you said.
Mike Wolf needs to listen to the people who are buying trains ofr their layouts,
there is a lot of neat engines and such that could be and should be replicated out there, but why flood the market with stuff that is already out there.
not too mention MTH is way over priced,
look at the K-4 pacific, Spectrum had one, then Broadway limited, then MTH,
I personally like the Spectrum and Broadway limited ones, I can get more for my $$$$ buying those than spending $400 for one MTH.
I am really glad spectrum brought out an affordable Berkshire, I like the Proto one, but price wise, I like the spectrum better,
I wander if Broadway limited and MTH will copy bachmann and make their versions of a Berkshire, LOL
Well here we go again, another "big steam" unique locomotive, to go along with the multitude of challangers, big boys, and K-4s. It seems like all these manufacturers treat this like they are selling "toys" rather than operating models, or at the very least, "collectables"!
I just looked at the MTH web site and the GS4 looks ok, but not great, I may be all wrong, but it seems to have some visual similarities to the less than perfect, (and far less expensive, AND DCC COMPATABLE), Bachmann GS4, particularly the trailing truck, just looks out of proportion. The ladders on the tender look VERY heavy..........I'm sure, if the BLI/PCM ever does come out, it will be a superior model. Top that off with my agreement with everyone about the rediculous "non dcc" command control system.............this model is not for me!
But let me say for the record, that I do model the SP, and I do own one older brass GS4. And for the record, personally, I feel it truely is the most beautiful steam locomotive of all time. Like most here, I wish Bachmenn would produce a spectrum version. That said, I would rather see something less unusual, like any Harriman 2-8-0, 4-6-2, 2-6-0, etc!
One thing that I must point out, however, while Mike Wolf does indeed seem to have more money than brains, and a stubborn streak a mile wide, when it come to his "superior" control system. He is the one that, single handedly, negotiated the deal with Union Pacific, that is allowing all of us to purchase models painted for UP, SP, (and all the others under their umbrella), at no additional cost.