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Title: A really nice modern American!
Post by: SteamGene on February 19, 2008, 07:19:27 AM
Take a look at this little beauty!  The tender is a bit old fashioned, but...
http://www.scenicrailroads.net/

Gene
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: ebtnut on February 19, 2008, 01:18:54 PM
Go here for a great shot of No. 90 "charging" down the line:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=221048&nseq=244
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on February 19, 2008, 01:27:36 PM
Ooo-eee! Nice photos--especially that action shot!

I've got a color photo of #98 and a two-car train hanging above me at my desk here at work, even as I write this.

(The photo over my desk was the back cover of a tourist railroads directory years ago.)
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: TonyD on February 19, 2008, 01:28:24 PM
What's so old fashioned about his thing Gene? The Canadian Paciic had a couple of these still going in New Brunswick as FT's and PA's were going to the big roundhouse in the sky... looks like the spectrum and IHC jobs doesn't it? I think the tenders 'grew' with time, and shrunk back when restored, I bet the tenders on those CPR guys weighed more than the engine... where is this girl? I couldn't open the home page,,,,, the more of this stuff I see, the more diesels go back on the shelf.....
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 19, 2008, 02:55:47 PM
B&M had a few until 1947. The coaches look to be ex-B&M cars, can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: SteamGene on February 19, 2008, 03:13:52 PM
I know a few railroads had smooth top tenders until the end, but it was an old design.  The fuel bunker became raised somewhere around the turn of the last century (19th to 20th).
Gene
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on February 20, 2008, 08:48:53 AM
Quote from: Guilford Guy on February 19, 2008, 02:55:47 PM
B&M had a few until 1947. The coaches look to be ex-B&M cars, can anyone confirm this?

It sticks in my mind that I read somewhere years ago that the Wilmington & Western coaches were old Reading equipment, but I couldn't say that's true under oath.

From my one visit to the W&W, I also seem to remember that the coaches are from the period where the steps were still "outdoors," with just a narrow, covered passage between the cars. But sometimes memory plays tricks. ...  ;D

Guilford, I guess you know a number of Boston & Maine open-platform cars have been at the Strasburg Railroad since the early 1960s?
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 20, 2008, 11:45:29 AM
Yep, and theres a few at Steamtown. Then theres a bunch privately owned... :)
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: TonyD on February 21, 2008, 12:39:47 AM
I have no reference near me, but I THINK the exposed steps but a passageway with diaphrams and doors was called 'an open vestibule' between old open platforms and the closed vestibule, which is the newer system with dutch doors and diamond plate over the steps....which, at one time you could lean out of and take nice snapshots....ancient history.....
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 21, 2008, 12:45:11 AM
Yes, open vestibule cars... Of course, if you got people, you can still get pix out the vestibule.  ;)
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: Johnson Bar Jeff on February 21, 2008, 09:31:20 AM
Quote from: TonyD on February 21, 2008, 12:39:47 AM
I have no reference near me, but I THINK the exposed steps but a passageway with diaphrams and doors was called 'an open vestibule' between old open platforms and the closed vestibule, which is the newer system with dutch doors and diamond plate over the steps....which, at one time you could lean out of and take nice snapshots....ancient history.....

Thanks! Nice to know there's a name for that arrangement! Always good to learn something new about trains!  :D
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: ebtnut on February 21, 2008, 01:41:23 PM
I believe the cars with No. 98 are in fact what were referred to as "Booneton" cars.  They were used in commuter service on the old Lackawanna lines in North Jersey.  IIRC, they became surplus back in the '70's when new equipment came on line, and a lot of tourist lines bought them 'cause they were cheap (at the time), essentially still road-worthy, and had that antique appearance, especially with the open vestibules. 
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 21, 2008, 02:47:47 PM
Who wants to go on a roadtrip to look at some passenger trucks?
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: Yampa Bob on February 21, 2008, 10:13:01 PM
I'm guessing that is the same "Historic Rails" I mentioned earlier?

Nice picture.

Bob
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: r.cprmier on February 22, 2008, 09:51:52 PM
Gene and all;
on the Hitler Channel (history) this evening, there was the story about the road to Key West; and a part of the program was inclusive of the Florida East Coast railroad.  They had the biggest darned American on that line I have ever seen!!  Wow!

Rich
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: Beatle (TrainBrain) on February 24, 2008, 02:40:15 PM
Does that say Wilmington & Western? There's an observatory I go to in Deleware and that scenic route goes through that area. Although I haven't been down there in a while, it must have finally re-opened. The route had major damage done to it in the floods of '03 and '05, so they weren't running for a while. Here's the link:
http://www.wwrr.com/ (http://www.wwrr.com/)
History:
http://www.wwrr.com/about/history.asp (http://www.wwrr.com/about/history.asp)
Map:
http://www.wwrr.com/about/routemap.asp (http://www.wwrr.com/about/routemap.asp)
The observatory is at Mt. Cuba, the picnic area shown is down the mountain.

The flood restoration page:
http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/ (http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/)

I got to get down there!
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: thirdrail on February 24, 2008, 02:50:19 PM
Wilmington & Western No. 98 was Mississippi Central No. 98 and was on the roster until the line was Dieselized. I notice it no longer has its second bell.
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: Beatle (TrainBrain) on February 24, 2008, 02:51:49 PM
Map of flood damage:
http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/damagemap.asp (http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/damagemap.asp)

Some of the pictures of the damage of the flood:

(http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/6gapproach_before_large.jpg)

(http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/storypic3.gif)

(http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/7a_before_large.jpg)

(http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/8a_before_large.jpg)

(http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/8b_before_large.jpg)

Down the hill from Mt. Cuba:
(http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/10a_before_large.jpg)

Another one down the hill:
(http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/10c_before_large.jpg)

(http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/11aapproach_before_large.jpg)

(http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/storypic2.gif)

(http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/12b_before_large.jpg)

Before & After:
http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/beforeandafter.asp (http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/beforeandafter.asp)

Construction:
http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/construction.asp (http://www.wwrr.com/museum/henri/construction.asp)
Title: Re: A really nice modern American!
Post by: RAM on February 24, 2008, 03:21:35 PM
Looks like it is in better shap now than it has ever been.