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Title: Whats your favorite......
Post by: westsidelumber12 on February 22, 2008, 02:46:15 PM
what is your favorite engine that your favorite railroad made? I know its a awkward questions but i thought it would be interesting to see what is your favorite one railroad prototype. Mine would be the CF7 or the U30CG, i love Santa Fe.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: sour rails on February 22, 2008, 03:06:22 PM
For me, it is a little hard to say. :-\ :-\

My favorite railroad is the NICKEL PLATE ROAD (NKP).
My favorite steam locomotive is the N&W's class J 4-8-4.
My favorite frieght diesel is the EMD SD45. (Great Northern paint scheme)
My favorite passenger diesel is EMD E7. (also Great Northern)

As of right now, my favorite engines from the NKP are:
Steam~2-8-4 Berkshire
Diesel~GP30


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Conrail Quality on February 22, 2008, 04:13:36 PM
For me, it would be a three-way tie between the Pennsy GG-1, New Haven EF-3, and Milwaukee EF-1. The MILW Little Joe, and Amtrak E60 and AEM-7 get honorable mentions.

Timothy


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: RAM on February 22, 2008, 04:23:07 PM
Santa Fe 4-6-4 3460.  I also like 5004 a 2-10-4.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Dusten Barefoot on February 22, 2008, 05:59:29 PM
ET&WNC 4-6-0#12. What can I say, she is the last one left.
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd182/Bigbare_album/Tweetsie12.jpg)
Rock On & Live Strong
Dusten


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 22, 2008, 06:14:04 PM
I second Tim, the New Haven electric are hawt! :-*
For me its probably B&M's 2-6-0, with the 2-8-0's, and 4-6-2's tieing for second.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: SteamGene on February 22, 2008, 06:31:06 PM
Westsidelumber.  Your question was:  "what is your favorite engine that your favorite railroad made?"  I don't think the Santa Fe MADE either of the two locomotives you listed.  While my favorite railroads are the C&O and the Milwaukee Road I don't think either railroad MADE any locomotives, though the C&O did convert some heavy Pacifics to Hudsons in the late 1940s. 
Now, what are my favorite C&O/Milwaukee locomotives is another question. 
Gene


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 22, 2008, 06:39:53 PM
Santa Fe rebuilt  a fleet of aging F7's into CF7's.  I don't know if the U30CG's are or are not rebuilds...


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Conrail Quality on February 22, 2008, 09:09:21 PM
The U30CG's were not rebuilds; they were ordered new from GE in 1967, according to every source I've seen.

Timothy


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: CHUG on February 22, 2008, 10:22:38 PM
my favorite is amtrak acela. amtrak made acela a big deal for washington suits and new york gordon geckos to go fast in a train from boston to washington very quickly and not stopping you see. with new york in between it picked up the geckos on there way to washigton to payoff the suits or on there way to boston to drink and so forth. they dont call it grand central station for nothing. it probably costs more to ride it then the bachman acela costs. thanks.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Conrail Quality on February 23, 2008, 12:04:55 AM
my favorite is amtrak acela. amtrak made acela a big deal for washington suits and new york gordon geckos to go fast in a train from boston to washington very quickly and not stopping you see. with new york in between it picked up the geckos on there way to washigton to payoff the suits or on there way to boston to drink and so forth. they dont call it grand central station for nothing. it probably costs more to ride it then the bachman acela costs. thanks.

What do you mean by this? All Amtrak trains in New York use Penn Station, not Grand Central. I don't think ANY Acela has ever been inside Grand Central, since it doesn't have catenary.

Timothy


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: CHUG on February 23, 2008, 12:19:11 AM
I didnt say acela went to grand central station i just said they dont call it that for nothing you see. It goes through new york city thats for sure so i dont care what station it goes through or even if it goes through madison square garden or the empire stae building my point is the same and so forth. Thanks


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: westsidelumber12 on February 23, 2008, 12:25:23 AM
Yeah U30CG's wheren't made by Santa Fe, but the CF7's were. They made those bodies from scratch.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: WoundedBear on February 23, 2008, 01:37:30 AM
I didnt say acela went to grand central station i just said they dont call it that for nothing you see. It goes through new york city thats for sure so i dont care what station it goes through or even if it goes through madison square garden or the empire stae building my point is the same and so forth. Thanks

That makes even less sense than the last post that you are trying to defend..

But it's all good.....you have that post and delete trick down pat.

Sid


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: SteamGene on February 23, 2008, 12:28:05 PM
I wonder what Chug's language arts grades are.
Gene


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 23, 2008, 02:46:45 PM
I wonder what Chug's language arts grades are.
Gene
im not xactly shur betetr thn myne i supoze


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: jdvass on February 23, 2008, 07:17:33 PM
My all time favorite would have to be an F7 from Canadian Pacific in their maroon and grey paint scheme.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: TonyD on February 23, 2008, 08:26:07 PM
What I REALLY DO KNOW, is a fact. When you are waiting for a train in Grand Central, don't be a wise guy and pee on the 3rd rail....I did have an intelligent question, but after reading this thread...I forgot what I was going to say....about a year before NH joined Penn Central, a conductor freind of my father got us a cab ride in an FL9 from New Haven into Grand Central....wow. Like toy trains, in Conn.-steam tenders on work equipment, diesels and overhead cat pulling freight, the ex Virginians came at us, looked like square tigers!, 3rd rail shoes made it look like lionel track with welding sparks, then in the tunnel under -Park Ave? a railroad pergatory for bad trains....and no camera.....FL9 must be my favorite oil burner, 52 year old experiment but some still start up and go to work everyday....


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 23, 2008, 08:36:51 PM
Yumm... I can't wait for River Point Models to finish the FL9's and EP3's... (and EF4's, etc for that matter)


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Paul M. on February 23, 2008, 08:57:01 PM
I wonder what Chug's language arts grades are.
Gene
im not xactly shur betetr thn myne i supoze

butt gg(alex, of corze) you sayed in a im of coarse that you g.a.p. wuz eeether a 4point0 of a 3point9 . i can't remember now, you see. of course. tht is y i sayed it, gg.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: CHUG on February 23, 2008, 09:41:54 PM
The acela is fast. it doesnt have to go through new jersey you see. Most guys going from washington to new york city want to get there fast and some dont want crooks on board to steal there diamonds ot the money there going to lend and so forth. Thanks.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 23, 2008, 10:02:58 PM
Thank you Sherlock...
It most certainly HAS to go through NJ since their is not to the best of my knowledge, an electrified alternative route that does not pass through the state...


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Conrail Quality on February 23, 2008, 10:14:28 PM
Thank you Sherlock...
It most certainly HAS to go through NJ since their is not to the best of my knowledge, an electrified alternative route that does not pass through the state...

Oh GG, surely you know that the Businessmen and Lobbyists on board the Acela can simply make the it teleport to Philadelphia and beyond...

Timothy


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 23, 2008, 10:26:20 PM
Oops... my bad... All those pick-pockets on Amtrak that I've never noticed  must be very dangerous. Its very easy to board an express train, pickpocket a few people to make up for the cost of the ticket, and get off an hour later at the next stop and not get caught by the crew or all those people sitting in their seats where its even more difficult to get at their pockets?
All those scapegoated New Jersey people must be very worried right now... maybe Amtrak will stop stopping in New Jersey, in fear of all those pick pockets...


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: WoundedBear on February 23, 2008, 10:59:58 PM
Kids.....pay attention....this is what happens if you sniff the choo-choo train's smoke. ;D

Sid


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 23, 2008, 11:20:18 PM
Or smoke your Thomas as evidenced in the Thomas and Friends forum!


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: PRRThomas11 on February 23, 2008, 11:33:01 PM
Ok then... back to the point.

I can never decide my favorite engine, or my favorite rainroad but one of my favorite railroads is the Pennsylvania RR. And my favorite of their engines was the T1 duplex.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/07/T1_color_photo.jpg/300px-T1_color_photo.jpg)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/07/T1_color_photo.jpg/800px-T1_color_photo.jpg


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: CHUG on February 24, 2008, 09:31:41 PM
its about a hour from newark to baltimore you see. If guys with diamonds or money lenders was going to washington and new jersey crooks got off in baltimore before they got to washington theyd be in the wind before the diamond guys and money lenders saw there stuff missing and so forth. its simple math that makes acela work for these guys. On acela also the security eyeballs everybody real close as far as if there up to something. Thanks.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: rains train on February 24, 2008, 09:47:05 PM
Favorite? Easy. 4-6-6-4 Challenger. Union Pacific. ;D

Alex


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: WoundedBear on February 24, 2008, 09:56:36 PM
its about a hour from newark to baltimore you see. If guys with diamonds or money lenders was going to washington and new jersey crooks got off in baltimore before they got to washington theyd be in the wind before the diamond guys and money lenders saw there stuff missing and so forth. its simple math that makes acela work for these guys. On acela also the security eyeballs everybody real close as far as if there up to something. Thanks.

Chug....

Please answer a question that is on a lot of peoples' minds.....How old are you?

Sid


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 24, 2008, 10:23:39 PM
its about a hour from newark to baltimore you see. If guys with diamonds or money lenders was going to washington and new jersey crooks got off in baltimore before they got to washington theyd be in the wind before the diamond guys and money lenders saw there stuff missing and so forth. its simple math that makes acela work for these guys. On acela also the security eyeballs everybody real close as far as if there up to something. Thanks.
HOW DO YOU PICKPOCKET A GUY WHO IS SITTING DOWN?!
geez... you must really hate Jersey people.
I don't think people move diamonds on the acela...
And how do they justify a ticket...
Do they move seat to seat and take stuff? Or do they sit next to some dudes in some seat they were ASSIGNED, and hope they have enough money on them to pay for a ticket?
zomg...


Oops... my bad... All those pick-pockets on Amtrak that I've never noticed  must be very dangerous. Its very easy to board an express train, pickpocket a few people to make up for the cost of the ticket, and get off an hour later at the next stop and not get caught by the crew or all those people sitting in their seats where its even more difficult to get at their pockets?
All those scapegoated New Jersey people must be very worried right now... maybe Amtrak will stop stopping in New Jersey, in fear of all those pick pockets...


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: SteamGene on February 24, 2008, 10:37:56 PM
He's no more than 12.
Gene


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Paul M. on February 24, 2008, 10:39:26 PM
He's no more than 12.
Gene

I dunno.... I'm 12, and I can't read most of what he says.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 24, 2008, 10:52:14 PM
9? A Thomas Fan dropout?


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: rains train on February 24, 2008, 10:58:54 PM
Haha, possible GG, wouldn't put it past him.

Alex


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: TonyD on February 25, 2008, 12:56:07 AM
First of, I am a Thomas fan too, and I'm 50! so watch it...and 2nd, Paul! you are 12? and you made and weathered that REA building....???? Wow. I would show that to your art teacher, you don't have skills, you have natural talent, make sure your modeling gets to  your HS guidence councelor, there is already a direction for you here, keep up the good work. The rest of you- GET BACK TO WORK!!


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: rains train on February 25, 2008, 01:03:26 AM
(Thomas fan as well.)

YES SIR!

Alex


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Guilford Guy on February 25, 2008, 07:31:37 PM
I think everyone has some respect for Thomas.
I was referring to several of the Thomas Fans found in the Thomas forum, who can be quite a funny bunch.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Lemurien on February 26, 2008, 04:05:40 PM
My favorite are sd40-2 and Santa Fe railroad.
In France, electric locomotives CC6500 and in Germany CC103


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: PRRThomas11 on February 26, 2008, 05:35:38 PM
I think everyone has some respect for Thomas.
I was referring to several of the Thomas Fans found in the Thomas forum, who can be quite a funny bunch.
True, entertaining huh?


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: sour rails on March 01, 2008, 02:18:01 PM
I think everyone has some respect for Thomas.
I was referring to several of the Thomas Fans found in the Thomas forum, who can be quite a funny bunch.
True, entertaining huh?

     Why, sure, I'm 21 and I still love Thomas, just not as radically as some of them on the forum.
As for Chug, I think he decided to leave this topic.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Redtail67 on March 01, 2008, 10:21:58 PM
ATSF F Units all Classes they were real beauties and if maintained were great units.

Just a little info the CF-7 were a piece of junk they were built in the Cleburne Texas shops from wrecked F units and units that had the bodies rusted out and so on. They tried to convert units designed for freight and passenger service to units that could do double duty as yard switchers and freight service. Needless to say the units were a big flop. They over looked the control stands were setup for a whole different configuration and they were miserable for engineers to run. The same goes for the converted units that were slugs, just traction motors, with a large concrete box poured in the car body to make up for the lose of the weight of the engines. The very first engine was the 2649 and I ran it the first time it came down for service the ATSF gave us engineers an extention throttle and brake handles for these junkers (homemade I might add) and I still have a couple in the garage. Everytime I see them I laugh about how big a fiasco those units were.

As for the U33G Units I ran many, they were a constant speed unit, when the throttle was placed into run 1 they sped up to run 8. Same thing in dynamic. They were latter modified to go up in engine speed in steps I believe it was run 3 then run 5 then Run 8. They were very powerfull units but like most of the GE Units most engineers did not like them. They were filthy because of the exhaust did not burn claen and because of the smoke from them and all GE units they were banned from the State of California.

The SD45 was an extremly powerfull Unit but very difficult to maintain as they were a totaly different engine casting. They had one more major design flaw, they would go into "HARMONIC ROCK" between 10-20 MPH and again at 71 MPH or so, and literaly rock off the track and turn over.  ATSF had several derailments and after one on the Passenger Train. They took action after the passenger train incident as the FRA got into it . EMD and ATSF along with FRA came up with the idea of the struts. I had several rock with me lifting off the rails at 71 MPH and scared the fire out me but luckily none flipped on over. Yopu would run through those speeds as fast as you could and never hold them there regardless of the max speed of track or train.

The railroad lowered the horses and put the struts on the trucks to keep the units from rocking and came around with the SD40-2 one of the best units ever built and it was loved by almost every engineer than ran one.

By they way the dash 2 units were equipped with computerized control moduels  which allowed roundhouse personell to pull a moduel out  and put another in say for bad orde wheel slip or engine speed control and they had the truck mounted shocks or struts to hold down the units and keep them from the harmonic rock.

just thought i would throw that into to thread.


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Yampa Bob on March 02, 2008, 12:41:08 AM
I once had a loco going down a straight and just fell over. Must have been "Harmonic Rock"  LOL

When I read about the problems with real railroads, I think my running is very realistic, derails, pileups,  haven't tried a head on yet. 

Bob


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Stephen D. Richards on March 02, 2008, 04:00:33 AM
Redtail67,  very interesting information!  Thanks,  Stephen


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Yampa Bob on March 03, 2008, 05:39:21 PM
Thanks Red
I could listen to your adventures till the wee hours of morning.  Matter of fact,  don't we  LOL.   I thought I was the last of the night owls. 

I guess my favorites for the time being are two Flying Grande GP35.  I clocked one pulling 30 cars at 98 MPH. That's a total of about 8 pounds of cars.

That's almost  3,000 tons scale.  When you consider it  takes 8 full size GP40 to pull 10,000 tons of coal through here, that's impressive. 

Bob


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: Guilford Guy on April 24, 2008, 12:31:01 PM
I once had a loco going down a straight and just fell over. Must have been "Harmonic Rock"  LOL

When I read about the problems with real railroads, I think my running is very realistic, derails, pileups,  haven't tried a head on yet. 

Bob
Mmmm, at the club a member had to Guilford R(F)ail Systems GP40-2LW's running a mixed freight. It was meandering a long and suddenly fell on its side. Everyone was amused by "Prototypical Guilford Action!"


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: rocknblues on April 26, 2008, 03:43:03 AM
EMD F3-7 Great Northern is my favorite, only because I grew up in a RR town and remember seeing steam loco's and the diesels in the rail yard quite often, but first and only train ride was from Superior, WI to St. Paul/Minneapolis MN, on the Badger. It was around 1958. Most of my friends dads worked for the Great Northern, and I still remember the controversy in my home town when Burlington merged or took over. So its more sentimental than anything. I have searched and cannot seem to find what diesels were actually used for the Badger Express, other than I believe they were F7's. The city across the river in MN. ran the Gopher Express from Duluth to St. Paul/Minneapolis MN. And I remember that one in the yard as well. If I am wrong on any of this informaton please corrrect me, the records of the Badger and Gopher are quite incomplete that I can find. The Jr highschool I went to had a bust of James Hill founder of the
Empire Builder in front of it, that school is tore down now and the bust has been moved to the BN railyard in town. The school was also used as a summer Whitehouse for President Calvin Coolidge so he could trout fish the Brule River in Wisconsin. - Rock


Title: Re: Whats your favorite......
Post by: r.cprmier on April 26, 2008, 09:05:17 AM
Conrail;
I was at a service call at Hartsdale, NY Metro North station Thursday, and had the chance (and time) to watch some of the units come and go.  Have you ever watched those trains?  The electricals in those units must be something to behold!  I have seen a lot of commuter units in my life, but never have I seen the ability to move out as these do.  What a show!