I have posted on this before, but is there any thought of introducing some open sided excursion cars for On30? Some were promided for HO, but those seem to be on the back burner. I know there are some ON30 kits for these, and bashing one is possible, but ready to run would be nice. One possibility would be to base one on the exisitng freight car range. Converting freight cars to excursion vehicles was done quite a lot by real roads. Such open sided cars would not only be useful for modelling modern tourist operations but also historical operations as such cars were in use during the days of regular steam operation before preservation.
Hamish
Yes, I agree. On the ET&WNC durring the 20s and 30s, they had open air cars full to the brim with passangers. I would like bachmann to make some kind of open air car, I don't care if they are not ET&WNC. ;D
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd182/Bigbare_album/excursion1916.jpg)
how about the DRGW SILVER VISTA as a car
THE D&SNG also have rebuilt it
(http://www.geocities.com/dgosilverton/DSNG/SilverVista.jpg)
Dear All,
I think it's a good idea, too.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
mount blue makes a kit for an excursion car http://www.mountbluemodelco.com/
go to On30 and scroll down
(no I do not get any discounts for promoting them, I just like their kits!!))
Yes i would like some thing like the mount blue one but im not to keen on kits.
I like the idea of a coach built on the cheep. So count me in on one of these. Although a D&RGW one would look totally wrong on my layout and probably others.
Yes, the silver car is too modern for most layouts, if were modeling the DRGW you could do a quick kit bash, aint to hard. Didn't the EBT have some open air cars? Those would look nice. ;D
Rock On & Live Strong
Dusten
The EBT commonly used their "Dolly Varden" cars for excusrion service.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/DollyVarden/Dolly05.jpg)
These cars were typically used to haul bark to the tanneries, but were fitted with longitudenal benches for special occasions.
I suppose you could easily modify one of the pulpwood cars to something like this.
Later,
K
If Bachmann made that. It could have removeable benches. Making it two cars in one! :)
If you're at all handy, I notice in the new catalog that Bachmann is providing the cast metal underframes for the flat cars as a separate item in either oxide or black. Get some scribed styrene or basswood for a deck, and cobble up some sides from wood or styrene shapes using the EBT pic as a guide. Might be a good intro to scratch-building.
While a bit bigger than On30, here's a link (http://"http://archive.mylargescale.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=43205") to a model I built.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/DollyVarden/Dolly09.jpg)
Basically a flat car with a lot of strip wood.
Later,
K
Quote from: ebtnut on March 08, 2008, 05:25:13 PM
If you're at all handy, I notice in the new catalog that Bachmann is providing the cast metal underframes for the flat cars as a separate item in either oxide or black. Get some scribed styrene or basswood for a deck, and cobble up some sides from wood or styrene shapes using the EBT pic as a guide. Might be a good intro to scratch-building.
Well thats the thing. I dont concider myself as handy at all. :P
Max,
You won't know until you try.
Get yerself a bachmann Flat car, some matchsticks for the stakes and some coffee stirrers from Starbucks or Costas and go from there.
(If you're at all handy, I notice in the new catalog that Bachmann is providing the cast metal underframes for the flat cars as a separate item in either oxide or black.)
are they not plastic !!
I don't have the catalog handy at the moment, but I'm pretty sure they said metal. Also, it occurred to me that the pulpwood racks would be a good start for this kind of project.
As I stated in my original post, while such cars can be relatively easily bashed (and there are kits), some people prefer ready to run. My railroading time is limited, bashing a car takes time away from working on the scenery.
It should be possible for Bachmann to base an excursion car on the existing freight range with less new tooling (and thus lower cost to them) compared to a completely new design. The pulpwood car was based on the flat for example.
Personally I have no particular preference for prototype as long as the car is fairly generic, i.e. it is not a distinctive design found only on one road.
Hamish
I checked in the new catalog last night, and it did not say whether or not the new underframes are metal or not. My bad. Mr. Bachmann, can you enlighten us on this?
I think its just the new lowerd frames like they put on all the new cars. Made of plasic.
Quote from: David(UK) on March 10, 2008, 07:42:55 AM
Max,
You won't know until you try.
Get yerself a bachmann Flat car, some matchsticks for the stakes and some coffee stirrers from Starbucks or Costas and go from there.
Thanks for the advise. After all, one of the reasons i went to On30 is so i could do some model bashes and no-one could say it was rong. ;)
Dear EBT,
They are indeed plastic.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
check-out this excursion car from gme - star models
http://www.g-m-e.com/images/gilpin%20excursion%20cars%20web.jpg
also make a round-roof wood cab for bmnn 2-8-0
Open sided cars are already available, no need to wish for such a thing, they are produced by Grizzly mountain engineering.
http://www.g-m-e.com/images/gilpin%20excursion%20cars%20web.jpg
(http://www.g-m-e.com/images/gilpin%20excursion%20cars%20web.jpg)
But I don't think those are the ones that he means. They are too open.
Rock On & Live Strong
Dusten
Broadly speaking there are two sorts of open sided excursion cars: cross seating like the Gilpin Tram cars (the GME models mentioned by finderskeepers) and longitudinal seating like the other photos posted in this thread and the Mount Blue kits. Often the longitudinal seating cars had solid or slattered partial sides and were open above that. Yes, I was thinking of some sort of partial sided longitudinal seating car.
Hamish
I would prefer the latter too, as thoughs benches look too fancy for what im looking for.
One is on E-Bay On30