How many of you would want a Spectrum 4-6-2, non-pennsy model. The most popular passenger wheel arrangement in America yet bachmann has yet to produce one that is not Pennsylvania.
Put me down for one! ;D
Sure, but not in this scale though. ;D
Nope. Already seen plenty of USRA engines, and way too many Pennsys, as you noted. Face it, they are not going to do anything specific. But, since famous may make a difference, I would think someone would at least do Southern 1401.
^Yeah, Southern 4510 in the old crescent scheme would be cool too, HO scale really needs more Mikados. :)
I don't know about a USRA heavy Pacific as being done in plastic/metal. IIRC both the B&O P-7 and the Southern Ps-1s were close to the USRA design. Any others close to the USRA heavy?
Gene
Virginian,
Nobody said USRA until you did. USRA or not, we NEED Pacifics, Atlantics, some Mikes that are not USRA, some late, large boilered 10 wheelers even.
Pacifics where the mainstay of passenger service in North America, and you can hardly buy a decent one in HO. There is not even that big of a selection in brass at the moment.
BLI/PCM has announced a B&O P7 and a USRA light, but that still leaves a lot to be desired. How about a basic 1917 Baldwin like those on the Western Maryland and dozens of other roads.
And, BLI needs to realize that they will sell a lot more of those P7's if they offer them unlettered.
Any Pacific is a good Pacific as long as its not a PRR K4, we have too many of those already.
Sheldon
And yes, the Southern Ps-4 and the B&O P7 where USRA heavy clones, with only road specific details making them different. Once you have that running gear, there is a list of at least 5 or 6 locos you could do, maybe more. Not unlike Bachmanns Heavy Mountain, look how much extra they did to make the C&O version.
One running gear, two different valve gears, both modern and spoked drivers, several pilots, several cabs, a new tender or two plus the ones they aready have and few varried boiler details and a long list of credible Pacifics could be built.
And, the B&O P7 when through quite an evolution. The BLI/PCM model planned is "as built". The modernized versions would seem to me to have wider appeal with all the transition era modeling going on and other big transition era steam that is currently available.
Someone needs to make these models!
Sheldon
Well, since we're all wishing, I would love to see a Spectrum 2-8-2 SY Americanized! But maybe that's for another poll.
Why not spend a 39 cent stamp & write your wants to the company. Some do actually listen to the consumer. BTW I wouldn't mind seeing a plastic - decent quality - 4-4-2 Atlantic.
I agree with the P7. A modernized one with the pumps on the pilot deck and that strange pump shield would be much better on the VT&P than the as-delivered version.
Gene
Okay, for the '403' time ... :-)
YES! A Bachmann (Spectrum quality, please) HO 'Harriman' style Pacific ... as well as a 'Harriman' 2-8-2. That would be wonderful!
lanny nicolet
Assuming the BLI P-7 is half-decent, Bachmann should look at another Pacific prototype. The Southern Ps-4 would be an excellent choice, IMHO. It has somewhat smaller drivers (78", I think) that would lend itself to being redetailed for a number of other 1920's-vintage Pacifics. In the past I've mentioned the Harriman locos too. They are, of course, specific to those western roads controlled by Harriman, but that includes the UP and SP, which is a considerable chunk of railroading.
Yes!
But NOT a USRA design, nor any other design that screams out it's road of origin.
This means nothing streamlined, nothing with unique features. Yes, a Southern Ps-4 would be fine but NOT the streamlined one.
Virginian's right: we need more small engines, including (non-USRA!) Pacifics. Bachmann's going a great job supplying us modelers with engines that aren't Big-Boy sized, so let's hope they keep it up!
My personal wish would be for an IC branchline Pacific with low drivers, but that's a pretty obscure prototype. How about something that looks nothing like a USRA engine, that there were hundreds of, like a NYC K-3 or K-11?
[My personal wish would be for an IC branchline Pacific with low drivers, but that's a pretty obscure prototype. How about something that looks nothing like a USRA engine, that there were hundreds of, like a NYC K-3 or K-11?
[/quote]
Right idea, wrong prototype. Anything NYC always screams out "NYC", something not as identifiable would be better.
I too would love to see a Southern RR Ps-4 made by Spectrum in HO.
The P-1s were not USRA.... they were smaller than the USRA lights and older. The Ps-2s were very similar to the USRA lights.
The Ps-4 was a somewhat heavy pacific. 47,500lbs tractive effort and 27X28 cylinders, 73inch drivers. If anyone needs more information on SRR steam power I would be happy to give any information needed.
A USRA heavy if made in HO could be made to look just like a Ps-4. The 14,000 tender and elesco FWH would also be a nice touch.
- Andrew
An old C&O engineer told me that C&O had a small class of Pacifics bought from the RF&P that could be bashed from a USRA heavy - class F-20, I think he said, as well as the F-17 class. Bachmann already makes flying pumps and the 16V tender.
Gene
Quote from: rogertra on March 01, 2007, 05:42:12 PM
[My personal wish would be for an IC branchline Pacific with low drivers, but that's a pretty obscure prototype. How about something that looks nothing like a USRA engine, that there were hundreds of, like a NYC K-3 or K-11?
Right idea, wrong prototype. Anything NYC always screams out "NYC", something not as identifiable would be better.
[/quote]
OK; I vote for a NKP K-1!
(http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nkp/nkp-s163ark.jpg)
Sure, a 4-6-2 would be great. Some ideas:
P-1 Passenger 4-6-2 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 701 Baldwin 4-1919
P-1 Passenger 4-6-2 700 702 703 704 705 706 Baldwin 1919
P-1a Passenger 4-6-2 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 A-Brooks 1919
P-1b Passenger 4-6-2 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 A-Richmond 3-1923
8)
And some photos:
(http://www.texaspacificrailway.org/image.cfm?img=3db16cf493efb.png)
(http://www.texaspacificrailway.org/image.cfm?img=3db16d788067d.png)
(http://www.texaspacificrailway.org/image.cfm?img=3db16dd176a3a.png)
Any of the three above are fine with me. Heck, they're T&P; They gotta be good. ;D
I could use "Harriman" style engine. i do the UP, and GN... Which is close enough!!
:D
Lee
The non-streamlined P1's could be easily adopted into other roads ;D
yeah how about a central railroad of new jersey one even though i have a pacific already. i just need to put the missouri pacific decals on
I would like a pacific.
Espacially if it had SP or UP roadname.
I don't really care about whether or not it's USRA.
Even more, I would like a 2-8-2. 4-4-2s, they just look wierd to me.
But mostly, I want a 4-12-2... But BLI is covering that.
I'd vote for a C&O Pacific...i got 3 B&O's already. I need a C&O one lettered in The George Washington and just a plain one.
"I have..."
George Washington lettering consisted of a name board displayed on the tender. The locomotive may or may not have had stars and other decoration on the cylinder heads. A heavy Pacific brought the DC section to Charlottesville while another Pacific brought the Penninsula section to mate there. I assume that after the George got to Huntington, WVA, it had Pacifics once more.
Gene
Yes, a Southern Ps-4, or even a P-1 would be magnificent.
However, I would like to see a "smaller" 2-8-0 version than the current Spectrum. It is much too large for many applications south of the Mason Dixon, including the K-class consolidations of the Southern.
Matt
Quote from: rogertra on March 01, 2007, 05:42:12 PM
QuoteMy personal wish would be for an IC branchline Pacific with low drivers, but that's a pretty obscure prototype. How about something that looks nothing like a USRA engine, that there were hundreds of, like a NYC K-3 or K-11?
Right idea, wrong prototype. Anything NYC always screams out "NYC", something not as identifiable would be better.
The NYC K11 does NOT scream NYC. It is almost a generic Alco 4-6-2 of 1911-1914. The N&W E2 Pacifics are very similar, as are other railroads.
Also:
The Rutland ........ light class were probably based on the New York Central's K11 class from:
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/article.php?article=2591
Bowser already has a model of the NYC K11.
Look back over this thread. If you were a manufacturer would you have a clue what Pacific to make, should you even decide to make one? I wouldn't, other than maybe a Ps-4 in green and another unlettered in black. I'm glad one is all I need and I have one that is "good enough" for that.
I do need an N&W 4-8-0 though...
Quote from: Virginian on March 03, 2007, 09:03:11 PM
......
I do need an N&W 4-8-0 though...
Due to work and personal items, I have not gotten around to bashing one from a Spectrum low driver 4-6-0 (drivers measure 56", like the 2-6-6-2). I do have a LMB brass one......As soon as a few of use get our bashed ones done, there will be a reasonably priced model announced.
Having 475 at Strasburg should make this easier.
Virginian's point about the large variety of 'differing' 4-6-2s that we all would like to see mfg is well taken. It would be hard for a company to be 'road specific' ... but how about 'road generic'?
It seems to me that a 'generic' Harriman style steam model in 4-6-2 and 2-8-2 (mainly thinking of the boiler shape and the cab) would allow very many modelers of many different railroads, a wonderful starting point. Over the time I've been on this forum, I've seen repeated requests for "Harriman" style steam locomotives.
I would think (just my personal opinion, of course) that a 'generic Harriman' mfg in 'Spectrum' quality (both 2-8-2 as well as 4-6-2), would be a wonderful seller for many HO modelers.
(and for you N&W modelers, sounds like great news coming from Nigel!)
lanny nicolet
Lanny,
I can't seem to picture what a "Harriman" 4-6-2 or 2-8-2 look like. Could you direct me to a website which may have such pictures? Or, are some of the pictures posted in this thread Harrimans?
Thanks, Bill
If I am not mistaken, the best-selling Bachmann Spectrum locomotive is the 2-8-0. It is an IC prototype that has been "genericized" with round domes and a USRA medium tender. It sells well as a "close enough" model for many roads, and is great fodder for kitbashing.
So how about a similar take on a 4-6-2? I agree that the NYC K-11 is an excellent choice to genericize. A Pacific like this, with sound, below $200 would be outstanding.
Rob
Quote from: Nigel on March 03, 2007, 08:44:04 PM
Quote from: rogertra on March 01, 2007, 05:42:12 PM
QuoteMy personal wish would be for an IC branchline Pacific with low drivers, but that's a pretty obscure prototype. How about something that looks nothing like a USRA engine, that there were hundreds of, like a NYC K-3 or K-11?
Right idea, wrong prototype. Anything NYC always screams out "NYC", something not as identifiable would be better.
The NYC K11 does NOT scream NYC. It is almost a generic Alco 4-6-2 of 1911-1914. The N&W E2 Pacifics are very similar, as are other railroads.
Also:
The Rutland ........ light class were probably based on the New York Central's K11 class from:
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/article.php?article=2591
Bowser already has a model of the NYC K11.
True, but the model's a travesty. It's one of the few models that's actually a Bowser (rather than a bought out model from another company), the detailing is at LEAST crude, and they don't really run well. A state of the art K-11 or K-3 would REALLY be a boon to modelers everywhere, especially NYC steam modelers who seem to be on the increase (now that there are a fair number of NYC-specific steamers on the market)
Remember: Bowser makes a Challenger and several USRA engines too. You wanna bet the new releases of those engines in plastic are light years ahead of the Bowser stuff?
Quote from: Bill Baker on March 05, 2007, 09:36:49 AM
Lanny,
I can't seem to picture what a "Harriman" 4-6-2 or 2-8-2 look like. Could you direct me to a website which may have such pictures? Or, are some of the pictures posted in this thread Harrimans?
Thanks, Bill
I'll grab this one Lanny...
(http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/529/C_A_652.jpg)
Alton 652, typical Harriman designed Pacific (owned by at least the Alton, UP, SP and IC)
(http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/529/IC_1259.jpg)
IC 1259, typical Harriman designed Mikado (owned by at least the Alton, IC and UP)
(note: I'm saying "at least", since there's not a whole lot of data out there on the Harriman designed steam. There was a lot of it out there as it predated the USRA designs by at least 15 years, and a lot of roads actuallly DID like the idea of standardization. No one (that I know of) has stepped up to the plate to write the difinitive book on the entore line of harriman steam designs, all the roads that owned them, and all the clones that were built)
Harriman engines enjoyed a LLOOOOOONNNNNGGGGG life span. On the IC, engines built in 1911 ran to 1960, long after 99% of the USRA stuff had already been scrapped. The IC alone had over 1400 Harriman patterned engines, as 2-8-0s, 2-8-2s, 4-6-2s and 4-4-2s.
It's pretty odd that no one has bothered to step up and start manufacturing these engines yet. There were a LOT more of them than the USRA engines floating around, and they can legitimately be painted for two of the most popular roads out there (SP & UP). With VERY little work many can be turned into respectable ATSF engines. And except for the NorthEast, every region in the country had at least SOME Harriman engines running around.
Man, those are some beauties. Those pictures will go in my scrapbook. Thanks for sending Orson.
Bill
Thanks for posting the photos Orsonroy, and also for the helpful information. Again (sorry Gene, I know this 'kicks' me up to about 405 times :-), I really don't understand mfgs'. reluctance to produce "Harriman" style steam in at least the more common wheel arrangements ... 4-6-2, 2-8-2, 2-10-0 and 4-8-2.
The main 'look' difference between a 'Harriman' style steam locomotive and a USRA is that the Harriman boiler is basically pretty straight from front to cab, and in many cases (at least on the ICRR) actually slopes in a little as it gets close to the cab. On the other hand, the USRA styles all have the very familiar 'hump' about mid-boiler, with the boiler front looking smaller in diameter than at the cab end (this is my personal impression and there are, no doubt, exceptions).
But the 'Harriman' straight boiler and (for the ICRR at least) the very distinctive Harriman cab (the Spec 2-8-0 has a great ICRR style cab ... would be so nice to be able to buy that 'part' seperately!) are to major visual differences between them and USRA locomotives. I think probably, these two differences would be pretty much the same for any road that used Harriman rather than USRA, or along with USRA.
lanny nicolet
Lanny,
That picture of the Harriman 4-6-2, #652 that Orsonroy posted....is that a bellpare (sp?) smoke box?
Hi Bill,
No, I'm quite positive its not a 'bellpaire' (sp?) smokebox. Also, there is a slight hump in the boiler, but not as pronounced as a USRA would usually be. I think the shadow of the railing against the boiler might give the smoke box on #652 a 'different' look.
The IC Mikado that Orsonroy posted is very typical of ICRR Harimans with straight boilers, sloping in slightly at the cab.
One thing about ICRR late model steam locomotives ... they are pretty much 'plain-jane' boilers with not nearly the piping, and other stuff, etc. that is commonly seen 'hanging' on many USRA locomotives.
lanny nicolet
G.G.;
Broadway Limited (precision) is coming out with one this year, that will pretty much suit my fancy, as the quality of their products has seemingly edged up in my opinion. I like everything I have bought from them so far.
Incidentally, the engine will have, among road names, Boston and Maine! Guess what...
Rich
Rich,
Any photos of the BLI pacific that's 'coming' ... I couldn't find any on the BLI site.
lanny nicolet
Lanny,
You can't take a picture of something that does not exist yet. They are still literally "on the drawing board" from what I understand. But I am ready, as soon as their out I'll take 3-4 unlettered with no sound or DCC.
Sheldon
Lanny and Sheldon;
IN the "Precision" catalogue, they show a B&M type 4-6-2 pacific 1:1 scale. If you look at the literature, they are inferring that the product they are making will roughly-fit the req.s of a lot of roads, and with some minor modifications, will probably do quite well to represent what people want.
In my case, that loco specs out to about the dimensions of an I-4. now, even though I free-lance and follow no prototype on my railroad, there is a big soft spot in my otherwise granitic ticker for the NYNH&H railroad co.
I will use it as a basis for just that engine. They are also coming out wit htwo versions of the Hudson I-5; one in brass (I am still laughing at the price) and one in brass and plastic. Not a problem. I am no purist, except they have to be either blonde or redhead....
Rich
How about this one ;)
(http://72.185.86.34/ftparchive/Steam%20Photos/4-6-2/IC%202034.jpg)
Stephen
Quote from: Guilford Guy on March 02, 2007, 06:54:08 PM
The non-streamlined P1's could be easily adopted into other roads ;D
Quote from: Matt Bumgarner link=topic=563.msg5071#msg5071date=1172879648
Yes, a Southern Ps-4, or even a P-1 would be magnificent.
However, I would like to see a "smaller" 2-8-0 version than the current Spectrum. It is much too large for many applications south of the Mason Dixon, including the K-class consolidations of the Southern.
Matt
Looks like we've got 3 votes for a generic-ized T&P P-1 ;D ;D ;D
Guilford Guy's, Matt's, and mine. ;D
ahh but matt said a SOUTHERN P1 not a T+P ;) ;) ;)
RE: IC #2034 .... Ahhh, Yes! Stephen! I believe you have a great idea for Bachmann Ind. to consider mfg. :-) ... that would be a very nice series to model (or anything series from 1100 up to this one). I'd buy one or four! :-)
lanny nicolet
:)I agree Lanny if they would only produce it in IC paint. Its amazing they based the 2-8-0 on a IC locomotive but have never offered it painted for the ICRR ???
(http://72.185.86.34/ftparchive/Steam%20Photos/4-6-2/ic%201141.jpg)
heres another fine example of ICRR motive power.
Stephen
A non-Pennsy Pacific would be nice - I'd like to see a Mikado, too.
Both will be available this year from Precision (BLI). The Mikes are probably just a re-issue, but the Pacifics are new. I want two or more Pacifics-I think they will make great New Haven I-4s. The I-5 looks like a rea beauty!!
Rich
Bump. :D
how about something like these
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u134/pdleth/3657.jpg)
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u134/pdleth/460.jpg)
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u134/pdleth/3699.jpg)
it help keep the post active and on top
Here's a nice Pacific coming out of St. Louis. This would be a nice one for Bachmann to mfg. :-)
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2653/4621170qv6.jpg)
lanny
Looks like it could also be a B&M pacific
I would like a model close to the B&M P-2-c. pdlethbridge posted a few pics; the first two look to me like B&M class P-1 or P-2, all ALCO-Schenectady products with 73" drivers. The last - the only one whose number I can make out - is styled more like the USRA design; this is one of four B&M class P-5-a acquired from D&LW. Unlike the earlier B&M Pacifics (through class P-3), these were from Brooks, and according to http://www.faracresfarm.com/jbvb/rr/bmrr/steam.html, had 62" drivers.
A model that could pass as a B&M P-2 could be painted in at least four schemes for that one road - the early (1911) black scheme, the Minuteman scheme (blue and cream), the Flying Yankee scheme (two-tone green), and the square herald.
Quote from: Scott S on March 16, 2007, 10:55:07 PM
I would like a model close to the B&M P-2-c. pdlethbridge posted a few pics; the first two look to me like B&M class P-1 or P-2, all ALCO-Schenectady products with 73" drivers. The last - the only one whose number I can make out - is styled more like the USRA design; this is one of four B&M class P-5-a acquired from D&LW. Unlike the earlier B&M Pacifics (through class P-3), these were from Brooks, and according to http://www.faracresfarm.com/jbvb/rr/bmrr/steam.html, had 62" drivers.
A model that could pass as a B&M P-2 could be painted in at least four schemes for that one road - the early (1911) black scheme, the Minuteman scheme (blue and cream), the Flying Yankee scheme (two-tone green), and the square herald.
I third that!
And it may sell because 3713 a P4 is being worked on at steamtown and will hopefully pull excursions in the future!
Ray or Stephen (or other ICRR steam experts) on the forum can judge if what I am writing is correct. But it seems to me from pdlethbridge's (Paul?) three photos, the first two have that 'highly desired' straight boiler and the cab on the first photo really reminds me of a Harriman cab. Both of them definitely remind me of ICRR Pacifics.
The third, however, is just too 'USRA' for me ... that all too familar 'hump' in the boiler :-)
Anyway ... if a mfg (maybe Bachmann Spectrum! :-) would use one of those two as a basic design, I could be happy... it wouldn't take too much, from the photo appearances, to turn them into ICRR Pacifics.
lanny nicolet
Hi Lanny,
The top two photos do look like Harriman types to me as well and true the 3rd one does have that hump in the boiler. I think any of the three would be a good choice.
Stephen
Needing some Pacifics and getting tired of waiting,
I will buy some BLI/PCM USRA Lights when and if they come out, but otherwise I am about to give up and just build a few others. I picked up two old Mantua Pacifics and and Mantua Mike real cheap. Now I'll get a Bowser order together for some parts and just build some the old fashioned way.
Sheldon
Actually they are all B&M company locos. The center was a Maine Central loco. B&M and MEC worked together on a lot of projects including the soon to be running Flying Yankee
Bump~!
Lanny;
The third-for my money-is an Alco product-commonly found on the B&M. It could also possibly be a New Haven I-3. They loved them Alcos. The I-4 is a real honey-I have always liked that engine! Saw a bunch of 'em plying the Old Colony line when I was a kid living in Quincy, just up from the Quincy station. Saw the last one in commuter sevice clank into the station in '52; after that, they were all gone-to the scrapper's torch. Shame they never held any back for keepsakes...
I also remember a sunday afternoon, perched at the window on about the tenth floor of the Mass. General hopsital, looking down at North Station, and the last of the steam-about '55, I think, because the Southeast Expressway was also in view-or at least the girders that supported it.
Rich
Yes , in anything but Pennsy.
Also a 2-8-2.
Coal AND Oil
Tom
has anyone seen the movie "danger lights"???
it has a perfect example of a non-prr and non-usra pacific in it :D
Even though I am an SP fan, I would like to see another Boston and Maine Pacific similar to the one Athearn put out in 1960 or so. That is one very good looking locomotive. I have a pair of those oldies and they run well but are not made in a conventional manner. Those were Lima built in the late 30s. A nice generic mechanisim with some specialized superstructures could be very viable, much like the 4-8-4s Bachmann offers.
Just my $0.02 this evening.
J. Pasha
Not only is it a good looking loco but a very powerful one. Using 260 lbs of steam would put it up there as superpower
Class P-4 Specifications
Wheel Arrangement 4-6-2
Gauge Std
Road Numbers 3710-3719
Builder Lima
Year Built 1934
Cylinders (2) 23" x 28"
Boiler Pressure 260
Driver Diameter 80
Tractive Effort 40918
Grate Area 66.9
Weight on Drivers 209500
Locomotive Weight 339200
(http://steamlocomotive.com/pacific/bm3713.jpg)
A mountain tender could easily be thrown behind and some of the streamlining discarded. Also due to the fact that 3713 a P4 is currently being restored to operating condition at steamtown, it is just as good a candidate as the K4 or the Standard Berkshires.
pdlethbridge
Sadly, that loco is far too distinctive, we need something that is just a plain, ordinary looking Pacific.
A lot of streamlining was removed from the locomotive in later years. A P2 pacific would be another good candidate.
Okay ... if Bachmann is really interested in satisfying the need for a Harriaman Pacific, how 'bout this one ... straightforward and easy to 'bash' into a large variety of roads.
(http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4126/4621170stlouismovu8.jpg)
It would be wonderful to see something like this in the 'near future' :). (Why do I think I'm just dreaming? :D)
lanny nicolet
PS ... this was an ICRR 4-6-2 coming out of St Louis back in the 50s sometime.
or this maybe?
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u134/pdleth/460.jpg)
Perfect pdlethbridge
pdlethbridge,
I sure wouldn't argue with that model ... its close enough to allow some simple, basic kit bashing to turn it into an ICRR ... the boiler and cab look really close, the rest is just detailing.
So when did you say Bachmann is coming out with that one in the Spectrum series :D
lanny nicolet
try IHC for a PAcific, it looks real close to the photo, and from what i hear IHC is starting to make everything DCC ready and RP25 Wheels.
Quote from: BaltoOhioRRfan on August 11, 2007, 06:42:32 PM
try IHC for a PAcific, it looks real close to the photo, and from what i hear IHC is starting to make everything DCC ready and RP25 Wheels.
You quote have heard that "IHC is starting to make everything DCC ready and RP25 Wheels" but other than the 2-10-2, it hasn't happened yet and until it does, serious modellers will give them a pass.
I've looked at their 2-6-0 but with those steam roller wheels, no way.
I remember seeing and Ad somewhere, i think in MR about IHC bringing back the 4-6-2 with RP25 Wheels and DCC ready.
Roger, B&ORRfan,
A local hobby shop near me has received a sales flyer from IHC announcing the Pacific, Semi Streamlined Pacific and the Mikado with RP25 wheels. They are do out in the fall, October I believe it said.
Sheldon
Quote from: rogertra on August 12, 2007, 08:31:50 PM
You quote have heard that "IHC is starting to make everything DCC ready and RP25 Wheels" but other than the 2-10-2, it hasn't happened yet and until it does, serious modellers will give them a pass.
Roger,
SERIOUS modelers know how to scratchbuild freight cars. Serious modelers know how to kitbash a 2-8-2 into a 4-4-2. Serious modelers know how to do all sorts of things, and making an IHC steam engine DCC compatible is a LOT easier than making a Bowser engine DCC compatible.
Serious modelers know that IHC steam is a great kitbashing platform for all sorts of engines, both prototype and freelanced. Almost as good as Bachmann stuff, in fact!
(serious modelers also know how to turn down flanges on pizza cutter driver wheels, using only hand tools...)
Well, there are serious modelers and modelers who like to joke. ;D
Gene
Bump!
On this note, I have aquired two of the new IHC Pacifics with the RP25 wheels, one semi streamlined that with a few details added will join the Atlantic Central fleet and one regular to be a kitbashing base for a Western Maryland Pacific.
Sheldon
Here is a question. Now that IHC has released the DCC 4-6-2's with RP25's. How well do you think a spectrum 2-8-0's shell etc would fit on the IHC Chassis? Maybe a cut down Mountain boiler would work better.
I wish we could get something going in "spectrum" quality, similar to what the old Roundhouse Loco kits offered. Back in the day, as I recall, there were 4-4-2, 2-6-2, 4-6-2, and 2-8-0 running gear setups under the same superstructure. The "upper halfs" were offered in generic Santa Fe, Pensy, and SP/UP Harriman "looks", with appropriate tenders to match. No, not protypical, but quite useful when trying to build a "fleet" of locos. And while they didn't run very good, they were kitbashed into all kinds of different locos over the years.
Bachmann if smart could be a leader by doing a good non Pennsy 4-6-2 my preference being a Southern PS-4. Why wait until P2K has done something before trying it? I'm referring to the successful P2K Berks.
I would love to see something I could make a New Haven I-3 or I-4 out of. I have been waiting about a year for BLI to get up off of thier lard a$$es and come forth with what they promised. All of a sudden, everyone's a politician!
Rich
Since when were the P2K 2-8-4s successful?
Gene
Quote from: SteamGene on December 20, 2007, 04:54:35 PM
Since when were the P2K 2-8-4s successful?
Gene
They sold out rather fast. I'm not referring to their pulling ability which has been addressed by the newer releases with a traction tire. I have the P2K Nickel Plate Berk and the C&O Kanawah and I think they are the best detailed plastic HO steam locomotives ever made regardless of their pulling capacity.
A Reading STREAMLINED Pacific for the Crusader stainless steel train - 2 obs, 2 coaches & a diner to go with it. Ever see the cost os a brass one OR an old PennLine one??
I'll take a CNJ version.