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Title: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Bill Baker on March 06, 2007, 11:58:50 AM
For anyone that doesn't know, daylight savings time will change the second Sunday in March.  Back in August of 2005 President Bush signed the Energy Policy Act of 2005 into law. Part of this law is a change to how Daylight Savings Time (DST) will be observed beginning in March 2007.  DST used to begin the first Sunday in April and ended the first Sunday in October.  Starting in 2007, DST will begin the second Sunday in March and end the first Sunday in November.

Since many computer applications and systems automatically adjust for DST, they will have to be updated.

Bill
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Seasaltchap on March 06, 2007, 12:18:56 PM

Bill :

Technical point - "For anyone that doesn't know,........."

"That" is the impersonal for a thing, whereas for the personal it is "who" or "whom".

This is a common mistake in English.

Regards
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Rich R on March 06, 2007, 12:57:17 PM
Ah yes,

But did you end your statement with a period, or a full stop?

The British car? The one that has the same name as a large jungle feline? Made by Ford? Pronounced how?

I've been barking up that same tree for so long now I don't know where it's at!

We are two countries separated by a common language indeed.

( I thought Microsoft released a patch for the daylight saving time bit a few weeks back?)

Ta!
Rich R
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Seasaltchap on March 06, 2007, 01:36:48 PM

It's God, not Gad for me.

I use the English vowel sounds, however there are many who use the -gw- in Jaguar: I think they rely on the OED

My feeling is that -gw- would require a spelling of "qu", which may indeed be an old style of spelling.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Bill Baker on March 06, 2007, 02:49:05 PM
And the only thing I wanted to do was notify everyone of the time change. :-[
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Rich R on March 06, 2007, 05:31:41 PM
Quote from: Bill Baker on March 06, 2007, 02:49:05 PM
And the only thing I wanted to do was notify everyone of the time change. :-[

Bill,

And you certainly did that! Thanks for the reminder as we'll all wake up the morning after with our computers all cocked up but speaking perfect English. Now how great is that!  ;D

Cheers,
Rich R
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Seasaltchap on March 06, 2007, 05:57:02 PM

Think yourselves lucky you are not caught in the experiment of 20 years  ago Double British Summer Time.

Road crashes increased and more kids were killed on the roads going to school - but we still had to try it!
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: tiny on March 07, 2007, 12:42:45 PM
Thank's Bill :)
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Seasaltchap on March 07, 2007, 12:48:15 PM

"Queen Anne is dead!"

Thanks Bill.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change (to SeaSaltChap)
Post by: rperego on March 07, 2007, 05:26:55 PM
SeaSaltChap,

The use of "that" instead of "who" following "anyone" is arguable.   Who is appropriate referring to a person and that is appropriate for groups or things.  However, a group could be a group of people - like a team, committee, etc.

"Anyone" as used in the sentence in contention here can be interpreted as the group of people who don't know..."  In this case "that" is proper.   As the dictionary points out, any one (with the space) more specifically refers to "any single memer of a group or persons or things".

Had "any one" been used, rather than anyone, I would agree with you.  Should you want to continue the debate, I'll bet you one Bachmann G scale Caboose I don't need against a Chattanooga observation car if you have one.

Bob :)

Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Terry Toenges on March 07, 2007, 06:23:11 PM
Bob - I don't remember ever being a memer of anything. ;D
Maybe I just don't rememer. :o
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Seasaltchap on March 07, 2007, 07:37:53 PM


Good on you Terry !

I'll rememer it too !
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: bevernie on March 07, 2007, 09:15:37 PM
Actually, I think it's high time we all revolt!! I mean, who do they think they are really fooling with this DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME junk? All they've got to do is start an hour earlier, without telling the whole world to do so!! I'm personally tired of all this CRAP!! For weeks after the time change, twice a year, my body has to adjust for the different time!! Why can't "they" just LEAVE IT ALONE!!!
                                   THANX!! I needed to say that!!
                                                                                             Ernie
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Bill Baker on March 08, 2007, 11:00:50 AM
Yeah Ernie, I know what you mean.  On top of all this just think what the added hour of sunlight will do to the crops!   ;D

Honestly, there was a guy in the Tennessee legislature that voted against daylight savings time becuase he thought it would ruin the crops.  ???
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Seasaltchap on March 08, 2007, 09:24:03 PM

There is always a commercial interest in everything.

Today the discussion is about the extra hour of light in the evenings bringing more people out to the shops.

We now have 8 months of Summer Time, and only 4 months of STANDARD Time.
again, so much for anything standard!

Come to sunny Arizona where time stands still, and is the same all year round. We do not change our clocks.

Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Jim Banner on March 08, 2007, 11:46:08 PM
Up here in Saskatchewan we don't change our clocks either - we couldn't teach the cows to get up an hour earlier.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Atlantic Central on March 09, 2007, 10:28:37 AM
Stewart,

I agree that all this daylight saving time non sense is just that, non sense.

I will however respectfully decline your invitation. I have been to the west only a few times, and while it was an intersting place to visit, my personal taste perfers:

A green environment at least part of the year.
Rain on a regular basis.
Enough humidity that my lips don't chap.
A need to change my mode of dress only seasonaly, not just because the sun went down.

With these requirements in mind, my wife and are shopping for property in the western portion of Virginia to build our retirement home in the next few years.

I am sure you are very happy with where you live, and when I move to the Blue Ridge, I will once again.

And I won't care what time the clock says! (not that I watch it much now anyway)

Sheldon
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: JM on March 09, 2007, 10:15:02 PM
Makes you wonder what sort of Einsteins they have in DC doesn't it?  didn't anyone consider all the computers and PDA's that automatically update?  I've long said that daylight savings time is an outdated idea....doesn't make the sun come up sooner does it?????   So now I have to figure out how to set the date and time on this gray box of blinking lights....and I JUST figured out how to turn it on!!! LOL
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Terry Toenges on March 10, 2007, 10:38:01 AM
Seems like DST is meant to appease just a few.
Why don't the "9 to 5" companies just change their working hours in the summer and let the rest of us alone?
Is DST really relevant to those who work evening/midnight shifts? Or retirees?
I guess it means more sunlight for play after school, but school isn't in session in the summer anyway.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Seasaltchap on March 10, 2007, 11:51:00 AM

Terry : Business does move its hours to suit needs. It is only 9-5 on the East Coast.

In the West we have always altered our back office hours in business to run in unison with the East Coast, to 7-4.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Rich R on March 11, 2007, 12:57:09 PM
Well I woke up this morning and as far as I can tell the time changed and I'm still here. Computer took care of itself as did my cell phone(s). Diddle a few electronic devices such as clocks/watches and the microwave oven and alls well with the world.
The microwave can wait I think they're supposed to blink constantly at 12:00 are they not?
Now I'll just go and worry about Y3K....................

Rich R
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: scottychaos on March 11, 2007, 02:14:11 PM
I dont see the problem..
personally I LOVE it when the time changes in the spring!  ;D
and im happy it happened several weeks early this year!

I dont care about light in the morning..
on weekdays im at work at 7am, I dont much care if the sun is up or not when I drive to work..and on weekends I sleep until 8 or 9 am anyway.
I actually see the sunrise maybe twice a year!  ;)

but having that extra sunlight in the evening is GREAT!
I love having it light-out until 9pm in the summer.

actually, I wouldnt mind if it just stayed "daylight savings time" all year!
and never go back to "regular" time at all..
then we could have it light until 6pm in the winter instead of dark at 5pm.

and the time change twice a year isnt a big deal either.
you lose one hour of sleep one night a year..big deal!
the same thing happens if I stay up late to watch the end of a movie.
how many times do you go to bed a bit late?
thats all that happened last night..we went to bed one hour late.
happens all the time.

and it takes me 10 seconds to change a few clocks..again, big deal.

The crops dont care, they dont have watches.
yes, I suppose it could affect the cows if their schedule changes by an hour..but they probably get over it in a few days..
a week tops, and they have adapted.

I honestly dont see what the big deal is.

Scot

Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Seasaltchap on March 11, 2007, 04:25:35 PM

As you all know, we in Arizona did not have to change our time.

However, WE DID HAVE PROBLEMS !!!

The local NBC affiliate could not record Tim Russert's "Meet The Press" without making a complete pigs-ear out of it.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: glennk28 on March 11, 2007, 08:31:00 PM
My computer adjusted just fine.  However, several clocks that are supposed to be kept accurate via a radio signal from a satellite had to be manually reset.
Title: Re: Daylight Savings Time change
Post by: Ralph-On30 on March 11, 2007, 09:51:42 PM
 >:(

Don't like D.S.T.

Live near Los Angeles.

Terry,  I worked all three shifts,  now retired.

Still Don't like D.ST.