Been away a while, and just wondered if there's any word of late whether the 2in straights will ever be made available without having to add another 90deg crossing to the junk box to get them?
Len
Dear Len,
I know the Bach-Man was on our side a few years ago, though I know that often he's just the messenger.
"Why cut into the 90 degree crossing sales?" must be the reason given by the bean counters.
The new layout book not even mentioning the 2" straights is a kick in the pants, though. It's a critical piece for closing gaps.
Same problem exists with the G track 90 degree crossing. The complete/uncut half straights that are included would be nice as a separate sale item.
Here's how to free up a dozen (12) of those 2" straights:
Convince someone to buy the track and let you build them a "demolition derby" double figure eight layout using 22" and 26" curves.
It all fits perfectly together on a 123" by 54" area. Recipe on request.
Alternatively, a double figure eight using 18" and 22" curves fits perfectly together on a 103" by 46" area. Recipe on request.
This however, only frees up 4 of the 2" straights. You can get four 2" straights just by tossing 1 crossing in the junk drawer.
I suppose you could use the crossing itself in a hidden area as a 2" straight, since it is 2" long.
FT2"S !!! (Keep your head up, it could happen some day !)
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
Edit: added "Dear Len".
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Quote from: Joe Satnik on August 15, 2008, 12:16:19 PM
Dear Len,
I know the Bach-Man was on our side a few years ago, though I know that often he's just the messenger.
"Why cut into the 90 degree crossing sales?" must be the reason given by the bean counters.
The new layout book not even mentioning the 2" straights is a kick in the pants, though. It's a critical piece for closing gaps.
<snip demo derby tip for brevity>
FT2"S !!! (Keep your head up, it could happen some day !)
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
Thanks Joe,
I don't know too many folks into demo derby with trains though.
I use RR-Track to try and come up with EZ-Track layout ideas, and I'm constantly running into the 2in gap problem on relatively simple layouts.
You'd think someone would point out to Bachmann's 'bean counters' that Atlas includes a 4-pack of 2in straights in their True-Track line, and they sell very well at my LHS.
You might even think someone at Atlas used their RTS software to play around with True-Track layouts and noticed the same thing regarding 2in straights, and thought it would be a good idea to make them available.
Don't think I'll hold my breath waiting for Bachmann to get a clue though.
Len
Bach-man can pass the word on and it will get louder the longer this thread goes.
I put my request in for the 2" straights here.......X
any one else?
HGC
Len,
Thanks for the reply. No demolition of trains? You must have never seen the Addam's Family TV show. I bet I could sell a double figure 8 to Gomez, Pugsly and Uncle Fester.
GG Alex,
Your graphic cracks me up every time I see it. Excellent work. You really took the ball and ran with it.
HGC,
Thanks for your interest and support.
Now if we can get every HO and On30 poster to sign off with FT2"S, we might get their attention.
Again, thanks.
Free the 2" Straights !!
Joe Satnik
Dear All,
I think that 2" tracks are very important to a layout. I agree. But I won't take much space for my typing:
DUE TO THE NEED OF 2" STRAIGHT TRACK PIECES ALONE, I BELIEVE BACHMANN SHOULD INDEED SELL 2" STRAIGHTS ALONE, FOR THEY ARE NEEDED.
FREE THE 2" STRAIGHTS
I love to use the glow...
I don't take sides, I just think it's a good idea, but if Bachmann decides not to do so, I won't protest.
Sincerely,
Josh B.
As one who cuts and splices E-Z Track to make my own odd ball lengths, I am not too worried about the lack of 2" pieces. But I believe the Bachmann bean counters should be.
If Brand A sells 2" pieces and Brand B does not, even though their track systems are about identical, then people needing 2" pieces will tend to buy Brand A. And if Brand A will not mate with Brand B, then those buyers needing 2" pieces will be very strongly encouraged to buy only Brand A. So the question the bean counters should be asking is not about how little profit their company makes by selling 2" pieces. The question they should be asking is how much profit is their company losing on the whole E-Z Track line by not selling 2" pieces.
While I only use EZ-Track for the Christmas train, I, too see the need for two inch straights and agree with Jim, that a minor thing like that can create a large loss.
Let me remind those of you of a conservative nature, that marching around chanting "Free the 2 inch Straights" might make the casual observer think you have become a revolutionary, or at least a liberal. :D
Gene
Size DOES matter!
Smaller is better!
It you ain't got 2's, you ain't got no clues!
Got the blues 'cause you ain't got the 2's?
The 2" liberation front!
We march on Philly at sunrise. Two inches at a time!
;D ;D ;D
It you ain't got 2's, you ain't got no clues!
Got the blues 'cause you ain't got the 2's?
It you ain't got 2's, you ain't got clues!
Got the blues 'cause you ain't got 2's?
Scansion is the ansa. :)
Gene
Well, scansion this youse 2s guys.
(Chorus - Refrain)
Hurry up now and go get some 2s
Stick 'em right in got nothin' to lose
When you're done stickin' in those 2s
I guarantee you'll have no mo blues.
(Verse)
Those 2s are hidin' overseas somewhere
The factory just doesn't seem to care
Mr B I hate to be such a bear
Must I swim to China in my underwear?
(Verse)
Just gimme those 2s and I'll leave you alone
And I'll be happy not pickin' a bone
I want the real thing don't gimme no clone
I'm not too happy if you catch my tone.
(Refrain, huge finish)
You may now call the funny farm.
So what's the tune, Bob?
Scans great.
Gene
LOL Thanks Gene
Tap out the beat pick up the mike
Any ole tune whatever you like
I've been a square dance caller for 30 years, it just comes natural.
I haven't seen the layout book, I imagine any need for extra 2" was carefully omitted. Perhaps that's why it took so long for the book to be released.
:)
Hi Bob,
Very clever and very funny also !
Free the 2 " Straights ! :D
Pete :-)
I posted a message in the General Discussion on uses for the 2" straights.
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,6377.0.html (http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,6377.0.html)
Bob - Too bad the board doesn't allow for voice. Probably just as good, especially when people have complaints. ;D
You're probably right. We get enough written whining as it is.
I made several recordings over the years. I have a broad vocal range, usually baritone, but can fill in with bass or tenor if need be.
Bump-
This thread needs some attention..
HGC
Dear All,
EZ-Track book author Chris Lane has been corresponding with me via e-mail on the subject of the 2" straights.
Chris explained a long time line where the 2" straights were not yet available when the concepts of the book were established. The finished manuscript had to go through the "release of a new product" pipeline, in which time the new 90 degree crossing (with four 2" straights) became available. A re-write would have even further delayed its long awaited release.
As far as a separate sale blister pack, anything can happen, but realize that it would have to be approved by Bachmann and its parent company Kader, then take some time to get through the "pipeline".
They've heard you all and understand.
(End of explanation)
Hope this helps.
FT2"S
Sincerely,
Joe Satnik
So as not to be wasteful when buying the pack to just to get the 2" straights, one could sharpen the edges of the 90 crossings and use them as throwing stars. ;D
:D
L O L
HGC