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Title: Hogwarts express
Post by: Daylight4449 on October 26, 2008, 11:33:26 PM
Does anyone know where I can get an ho hogwarts express, or a castle class or king class loco cheap in the usa?


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: grumpy on October 26, 2008, 11:56:27 PM
Try Trainworld/ Trainland ,they usually have some clearouts.
Don


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: tac on October 27, 2008, 12:28:42 PM
Does anyone know where I can get an ho hogwarts express, or a castle class or king class loco cheap in the usa?

Please note that the Hogwarts trains are not H0, but 00.  They are a mite bigger than you think.

Let me know if you get stuck - our local dealership has a second-hand loco.

Best wishes

tac
www.ovgrs.org


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Daylight4449 on October 27, 2008, 04:14:08 PM
I am not going to start the whole, OO in englan is HO in usa thing again but ALl I will say is I really want one.


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Daylight4449 on October 27, 2008, 10:28:26 PM
BTW, what is the cheapest second hand they have, I have no ability to get second hand locos...


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: SteamGene on October 28, 2008, 10:03:02 AM
The Bachmann Hogwarts is not a Castle class locomotive.  Other than the fact that it's a steam locomotive and painted red, we have no idea what the "real" Hogwarts Express locomotive is. 
Gene


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Daylight4449 on October 28, 2008, 03:12:02 PM
Actually, In the book it is either castle or king class (I forget which) and in the movie it is the other.


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Jhanecker2 on October 28, 2008, 07:44:17 PM
Last I heard  from LHS  : Bachmann Harry Potter Hogwart Express sets were no longer legal to be purchased Due to some legal procedings. The Only US legal sets were from from Maerklin in AC and Trix in DC. Both apparantly no longer on the Market . Hobart in Great Britain was making the trains though I have no idea how to purchase them in the USA.  I saw no importer listed on their website. What is the Official Company position Bach Man ?


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Paul M. on October 28, 2008, 08:59:14 PM
Hmmm, not legal. Interesting.

Also note that the European coupler supplied with the Hogwarts are not Kadee - compatible or even compatible with X2F's.


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Daylight4449 on October 28, 2008, 09:04:36 PM
I know


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: SteamGene on October 28, 2008, 09:12:32 PM
Sorry, Daylight:
"A scarlet steam engine ... A sign overhead said Hogwarts Express...Smoke from the engine..."
HARRY POTTER AND THE SORCERER'S STONE, Scholastic, New York, 1997

In the movies the locomotive has a sign saying "Hogwarts Castle,"  It's not a Castle class, so this may be its name as it powers an express train, London to Hogsmead and Hogsmead to London.

Gene


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: the Bach-man on October 28, 2008, 11:37:52 PM
Dear All,
Harry Potter is produced under license; we no longer have it.
Have fun!
the Bach-man


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Jhanecker2 on October 29, 2008, 05:26:58 PM
Having consulted at least two different books.  Including the Encyclopedia of Locomotives and Trains I have found pictures of Castle Engines in both books  and while not absolutely the same the" castle class" is the closest match. It was also stated that due to there efficent utilization of coal that they were modified at later dates.    Gene is right  Rowlwing never specified the type of Engine it was . Authors are not necessarily technical writers, I suspect that the subject never came up.  Great author though, awesome storyteller. May she continue to write well and long. As regards to the couplers ,I am still trying to figure out how to modify the couplers without destroying the original parts.  Will have to create a stem that fits into truck mount and accepts some kind of Kadee coupler . It was easier to modify the Maerklin Potter Cars they had NEM coupler pockets , also had to change the wheelsets because they were designed for AC operation . Will have to eventually figure out how to open the cars to look at the internal wiring and to paint the cars to match closer.   No rest for the wicked.


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: VeritechCEO on October 30, 2008, 05:18:40 PM
If you look around in Ebay, you might find a HO Hogwarts Express train set there.  That's how I got my Hogwarts Express train set.


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: lirrman on November 01, 2008, 08:34:05 PM
Since I have a Hogwarts Express my wfe bought for me a few years ago and the last post mentioned e-bay I decided to have a look to see what they were selling for.  Only three for sale, around $50.  What got me curious though was all three e-bay sets had only two passenger cars.  My set had three.  My wife buys me train stuff, some I use some I dont.  Is the 3 passenger car set some sort of special release?
LIRRMAN


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Daylight4449 on November 02, 2008, 09:48:07 AM
The had many of versions


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Jhanecker2 on November 03, 2008, 09:20:56 AM
Bachmann released   an addtional Potter Set when the second Movie : Chamber of Secrets came out . I believe that version had three cars plus the Flying Auto. I remember seeing it in one of the Bachmann Cataloges. J2.


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Ozzie21 on November 03, 2008, 11:26:47 AM
The Hogwarts Loco is an ex BR/GWR Hall class loco and this was the model supplied by Bachmann UK in their sets. The loco supplied by Hornby in their sets was a castle class model.

Charles Emerson
Queensland
Australia


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: tac on November 03, 2008, 01:24:15 PM
The original 'Hogwarts' locomotive was ex-BR/GWR #5972 'Olton Hall' - a Hall Class 4-6-0.

tac
www.ovgrs.org


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Jhanecker2 on November 03, 2008, 09:23:21 PM
Thanks for the info tac & Ozzie 21. Will check it out tomorow. If I remember I will also try to find the reference to the three Car Set in the catalog liiman. Thanks for the advice VeritechCEO . I scored two complete sets with 6cars by pure coincidence for $40, used, locally . I was looking for #0=80 flat head screws 5/16" long for mounting couplers. Some days the gods do smile.


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: GN.2-6-8-0 on November 03, 2008, 10:29:10 PM

Know this should probably be in the Large Scale Forum but seeing as the threads already here thought i'd ask !
 

Does anyone have any prototype information on the O' scale set Lionel  put out? or is it generic .... either way I'm thinking it would look nice around the tree'  Xmas morning....


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Hamish K on November 04, 2008, 12:56:10 AM
Prototype information - for any-one who wants to know! The books do not specify a prototype, except to state that it is painted red. The most well known British company to use red paint for locomotives (manly passenger) was the Midland Railway and its successor, the London, Midland and Scottish (LMS). In later British Railways days some ex-LMS locos received red paint. In the books the train leaves from Kings Cross station - this was a London and North-Eastern Railway (LNER) station - their locos were apple green (or black) never red. As tac mentioned the film used a preserved  Great Western Railway (GWR) Hall class loco named "Hogwarts Castle", there were GWR locomotives with castle names but these were a different class (Halls had 2 cylinders, Castles 4, among other differences, however both were 4-6-0s.)  GWR locos were painted a darker shade of  green, never red. So there is no real prototype for "Hogwarts Castle".

Hornby Hogwarts express items are still available in the UK but, as, as far as I know, Hornby never had a USA licence for them you would have to order them from the UK, or some other country where Hornby has a licence.

Hamish


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: rogertra on November 05, 2008, 01:28:57 AM
J. K. Rowling as said that she got confused when it came to the London station from which Hogwarts Express departed.

She had childhood memories of large (By UK standards) red passenger steam engines departing London for Scotland.  This she now knows was ex LMS engines departing from Euston, not Kings Cross, which is where the ex LNER north bound trains departed.

Therefore, platform 91/2 should be at Euston and the locos should probably be Stanier Pacifics.  There were rarely, if ever, red engines at Kings Cross.



Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: SteamGene on November 07, 2008, 06:42:29 PM
The Bachmann Hogwarts Express came in two editions - the regular with two cars and the super with three cars and "Platform 113/4" which was a plastic arch with platform number.
Gene


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Daylight4449 on November 10, 2008, 04:27:32 PM
Unfortunantl I got two supers at 7 years old and naturally, bieng young broke them.


Title: Re: Hogwarts express
Post by: Jhanecker2 on November 10, 2008, 05:47:20 PM
I just got through repairing the couplers for the tenders and cars of the Hogwort Express .  One of the tenders was left stock to accept the standard cars. The second was modified with the European Couplers for the "Thomas" line to handle any  "Thomas" express cars.  The third tender was modified with Kadee Coupler Box glued onto a modified original base. This will allow me to pull the Modified  Maerklin Potter Cars. I changed the couplers and wheelsets to allow them to be pulled on DC. Still haven't figured out how to disassemble to determine how to illuminate them.