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Title: Smoke
Post by: knkblackoxide on November 29, 2008, 11:10:42 AM
Where can I find replacement liquid for Bachman? Thank you
Title: Re: Smoke
Post by: SteamGene on November 29, 2008, 11:20:59 AM
Smoke is bad for your layout.  Stop using it. 
Gene
Title: Re: Smoke
Post by: jayl1 on November 29, 2008, 11:32:30 AM
Any hobby shop should be able to get it for you if it is not already in stock there.  As Gene said, it does leave a film on your layout.
Title: Re: Smoke
Post by: az2rail on November 29, 2008, 06:22:36 PM
That might be ok for a diesel. but a non smoking steam engine is not prototypical.

Bruce




Title: Re: Smoke
Post by: Conrail Quality on November 29, 2008, 06:35:45 PM
Nor are plastic ties, magnetic couplers, and nickel-silver rails but we use them anyway.

Timothy
Title: Re: Smoke
Post by: richG on November 29, 2008, 06:48:19 PM
Neither is smoke wisping out of the stack on a moving steam engine.

Rich
Title: Re: Smoke
Post by: Paul W. on November 29, 2008, 07:24:12 PM
Any hobby shop will have it. You can also do a search for different companies that sell smoke fluid. It even comes in scents if you'd like.
Smoke use is a topic that gets alot of comments, but if you like it, use it. I'm not saying you won't get residue on things, but it would have to take alot of use. When my niece and nephew come over, they don't care about real looking smoke, they just like to see them smoke.
Title: Re: Smoke
Post by: SteamGene on November 30, 2008, 09:44:39 AM
Actually diesels do give out smoke, some of the older ones a great deal.  I believe Baldwins were great offenders. 
Now, a perfectly fired steam locomotive in the summer gives out little or no smoke.  People who have not seen steam locomotives in regular revenue service and have only photographs to judge from will think that great clouds of black smoke was the norm.  That's because the fireman would "smoke 'em up" for the photographer.  N&W used to have a sign on the fireman's side that read something like "Black smoke means burnt money." 
The fact is the smoke that is produced is unrealistic and can foul a small layout very quickly. 
Gene
Title: Re: Smoke
Post by: az2rail on November 30, 2008, 10:53:25 AM
I guess I mis-phrased my post [my fault]. I should not have used the word "prototypical". I should have said, I don't mind if my diesels don't have smoke, but I like my steam engines TO smoke". It is my choice, and I will live with it.

Bruce
Title: Re: Smoke
Post by: RAM on November 30, 2008, 04:16:40 PM
 Alco was the smoker, I was never around any Baldwin road engines but the yard engines did smoke much.  Diesels also set fires along the rightofway. 
Title: Re: Smoke
Post by: Yampa Bob on November 30, 2008, 04:27:44 PM
Gene will recognize this:  "Smoke if you gottem".
Title: Re: Smoke
Post by: Jim Banner on November 30, 2008, 05:20:14 PM
Smoke if you like it.  Don't if you don't.  It's a matter of personal choice.  One of these days I would like to fit a diesel with a smoke generator.  Probably an FA (lots of room and prototypical.)  Then assign it to someone who considers steam locomotives to be "stinking cigar butts on wheels."  I would hope to get a photograph of his face as his locomotive comes out of the tunnel from the hidden yard, pouring out clouds of smoke.

About ten years ago I was watching trains coming out of a wooded area in our town.  At one point, I thought for sure it was a steamer coming.  High, billowing clouds of black smoke.  But it was just an old GP-7/9 with bad rings or a cracked piston, probably pulled off a dead line and pressed back into service.  In the days of steam, it would never have made it past the smoke inspector. 
Title: Re: Smoke
Post by: SteamGene on November 30, 2008, 08:03:32 PM
Sure do, Bob.  And "Strip your butts."  :D
Gene