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Title: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Frisco on December 18, 2008, 10:11:50 PM
Hi every-one, I thought that this locomotive looked really good and might make a really great model. It would fit the Bachmann theme as it was a Baldwin catalog locomotive (although only two were made). What does ever-one else think? (http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/RyanMarrs/mn-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Linzthom on December 18, 2008, 10:20:59 PM
I think we would  rather have a HEISLER !!!!! :o :o :o :o oPPS...... I wonder if Mr Riley heard that.  Now where is the whip...............( for the horse. Dead one. Horse, I ment to say. Flogging  there of.)
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Frisco on December 18, 2008, 10:34:26 PM
I found another picture. (http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/RyanMarrs/baldwin.gif)
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: HarryHotspur on December 18, 2008, 10:43:32 PM
Heisler.
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Tomcat on December 19, 2008, 05:58:59 AM
Heisler - BANG,BANG,BANG - hitting the ol´horse again...

There is nothing wrong with the pictured engine, it´s a bit off-typical for a Logger, but well... But I think that we are about to see another geared engine which should be a HEISLER - if one asks me.

Easiest way-take the Fn3-Scale Heisler and do it in On30, Bach-man. It´s a beauty.

Or - my first choice: Take a Westside Heisler No.3 - and keep in mind that this engine was regauged from a Standard Gauge loco. Wouldn´t this give yourself a good start into O-Scale 2-rail...?
Beeing a Std. Gauge Modeller too - this would make my day: Have Bach-Man Rolling Stock in 2-Rail O-Scale Std Gauge too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :)

Cheers, Tom ;)
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Mike_AA9ZY on December 19, 2008, 11:29:17 AM
Heisler, Heisler, Heisler ;D
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: ebtnut on December 19, 2008, 01:37:35 PM
Two things mitigate against the Baldwins--one, there were only two of that particular design built, and one of those was for export.  Two, it looks enough like a Climax that you might as well go with a genuine Climax.  Then there was the third geared loco try by Baldwin, which was a wacky take-off on a Shay.  See plans in the latest NG&SL Gazette for that beast. 

Yes, by all means, let's get an On30 Heisler underway (there's that beating sound again  :o).
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Frisco on December 19, 2008, 02:04:44 PM
Quote from: ebtnut on December 19, 2008, 01:37:35 PM
Two, it looks enough like a Climax that you might as well go with a genuine Climax.  Then there was the third geared loco try by Baldwin, which was a wacky take-off on a Shay.  See plans in the latest NG&SL Gazette for that beast. 
Thanks I already have a picture of the weirded shay like locomotive.  I guese that is the reason that I like it is because the climax is my favorite gearded locomotive.
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Tomcat on December 19, 2008, 03:16:35 PM
OK folks - just in the case I don´t say HEISLER one far day...
It´ll be when we see something new from Bachmann, which will be...
a...

H E I S L E R .... of course... ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)


Cheers, Tom ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Tomcat on December 19, 2008, 05:03:31 PM
just a reminder....

HEISLER !
If its not a HEISLER - please let it be another HEISLER...

Cheers, Tom ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Hamish K on December 19, 2008, 08:52:48 PM
That Bapldwin is nice - but to me it seems more sensible to produce the major types of geared locomotives before producing the minor types. The major types are generally considered to be - Shay, Climax and Heisler. Bachmann make a Shay and a Climax, so a Heisler seems obvious. Alternatively a different Shay or Climax could be considered. Another maker has announced a 3 truck Shay, but a larger and more modern 2 truck than the existing Bachmann model would also be a possibility. With Cllimaxes a 3 truck could be considered, but these were rare in narrow gauge. Alternatively a class A Climax, quite a different locomotive, could be made. I have always liked these and would welcome a Bachmann model in ON30. However as no ON30 ready-to-run Heisler has been made, a Heisler would seem the logical choice for another ON30 geared locomotive.

Hamish
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: mmiller on December 19, 2008, 10:03:12 PM
Quote from: ebtnut on December 19, 2008, 01:37:35 PM
Two things mitigate against the Baldwins--one, there were only two of that particular design built, and one of those was for export.  Two, it looks enough like a Climax that you might as well go with a genuine Climax.  Then there was the third geared loco try by Baldwin, which was a wacky take-off on a Shay.  See plans in the latest NG&SL Gazette for that beast. 

Yes, by all means, let's get an On30 Heisler underway (there's that beating sound again  :o).

actually if one goes by Bachmann's track record in their On30 rod locos, the fact that the Baldwin pictured above is pretty nearly a one-off and exported are arguments in favor of it being produced, not against it ;D
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Tomcat on December 21, 2008, 02:23:38 PM
Hamish -you´re right: A HEISLER should be in the Bachmann people´s minds to complete the series of typical Logging Engines.

And, if one asks me: A more modern Shay, mustn´t be a Three Truck, would be a great thing to have. Something like a 36 Tonner or a 38 Tonner like the Fn3 Ely Thomas No.6.
It could be that easy.

We´ll see. I´m sure, Lee Riley has lots of wonderful things
ready for us. Maybe, we will know a bit more in February 2009.

Happy Holidays to you guys out there!!!
Keep on the right track (which may be Narrow Gauge...) in 2009!


Cheers, Tom :) :) :)
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: darryl1936 on December 21, 2008, 10:58:27 PM
I'm not beating that old deal horse any longer.  What ?  Yea !  Selling off all of the On30 stuff and started to use my old Lionel stuff. Might even invest in some Wiilliam stuff..   

The old fardt in very COLD Ore-Gun
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: superthomasfan on January 24, 2009, 08:54:39 PM
Here is another good idea.

http://www.gearedsteam.com/climax/images/wild_goose_rr_2012.jpg

Strange, isn't it?  ;D
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: ebtnut on January 24, 2009, 08:58:48 PM
While a Class A Climax is neat, I don't see that anytime in the near future from Bachmann.  See the thread on Class A's for more discussion.
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: superthomasfan on January 24, 2009, 10:12:55 PM
How about a model of this big guy?

http://www.gearedsteam.com/shay/images/yosemite_mtn_n_sugar_pine_rwy_10.jpg
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Tomcat on January 25, 2009, 04:23:35 AM
Old Westside Engine, when I got it right...?

Sure this would be a nice thing to have, but MMI has already announced exactly this kind of engine. So, acting wise, Bachmann would probably not bring the same prototype then.

But what about the Yosemite Sugar Pine RR´s other engine - which is slightly a bit smaller...? Well, to me it would be great to have the 36 tonner Bachmann once produced for Fn3, or the actual 38 tonner in On30. ;) ;) ;)

That would not just do the trick - this would make my day... ;D

Kind regards, Tom ;)
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: superthomasfan on January 25, 2009, 07:16:34 AM
Here are some more ideas

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=487

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=96

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1561

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=971
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Tomcat on January 25, 2009, 08:05:29 AM
Hi there,
thank you, Superthomasfan for the pic´s you added:

No question, the Westside No.3 Heisler would be my favorite. ::) ::) ::)
I had quoted for this model a while before already.

Cheers, Tom
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: superthomasfan on January 25, 2009, 10:17:58 AM
Yeah. If Bachmann has made a heisler in G scale, no doubt they can make one in On30. ;D
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: drgw268 on January 25, 2009, 01:40:19 PM
Quote from: Tomcat on January 25, 2009, 04:23:35 AM
Sure this would be a nice thing to have, but MMI has already announced exactly this kind of engine. So, acting wise, Bachmann would probably not bring the same prototype then.

MMI has removed almost all of their future On3/On30 releases from their webpage. 

And why should Bachmann be worried about MMI?  If/when MMI releases them, they'll be at least $700. 
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: Tomcat on January 25, 2009, 01:45:03 PM
Sure, drgw268 - but I would suggest, Bachmann would be sensitive about this issue: There are masses of prototypes out there, why make the same engine...?

A Bachmann model would be far better that the MMI engine, better running, cheaper...

Kind regards, Tom
Title: Re: Possible New Gearded Locomotive
Post by: superthomasfan on January 25, 2009, 02:22:24 PM
Quote from: drgw268 on January 25, 2009, 01:40:19 PM
Quote from: Tomcat on January 25, 2009, 04:23:35 AM
Sure this would be a nice thing to have, but MMI has already announced exactly this kind of engine. So, acting wise, Bachmann would probably not bring the same prototype then.

MMI has removed almost all of their future On3/On30 releases from their webpage. 

And why should Bachmann be worried about MMI?  If/when MMI releases them, they'll be at least $700. 

Why has MMI removed their future product releases?  ???
I hope there is nothing wrong.  :-\