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Here's my version of the red coaches:

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And here's my version of the brakedown cranes...

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WOW that's really good, how did you make them? you should share some secrets with us.

Awesome work. Although the Breakdown Train's only half done and to complete the red coaches you'll need to make a third. ;)

Thanks for you comments guys;

Red coaches were made from Annie and Clarabel wagons simply painted red. The rear of the back coach was made from studying stills from 'Close Shave' episode (the train James is pulling that Duck nearly crashes into). Making a template, (can post this if anybody is interested) printing it out on card, painting it the same red as the coaches and Bob's your uncle...

Some trimming here and there once it was stuck together but I think it looks okay.

The breakdown cranes were made from two Hornby 'Railroad' cranes chopped and changes to again resemble stills from the 'Thomas and the Breakdown Crane' episode. The crane arm is shortened and the original arm support truck bed is put to one side as it is not needed for this model. The cab is carefully taken apart again shortened by chopping off the back portion but this is used to create the inside of the winding mechanism. Whilst the cab is apart the centre two wheels are removed (as the series one only has four wheels.) Flat beds are made from truck wheel bases with some card board to hide the uneven top and the wheels. Then they are painted green weathered and are ready to run. The arms do have to be raised slightly and held in place otherwise they derail whilst going round coners.

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Mainly winging it is what I do. I strive for Perfection which isn't always the case but all part of the process.

I see your point Zelda but I only had two coaches at the time but I'll get round to getting more just to build rolling stock numbers, and I need to find a suitable coach for the 'Works' wagon, to complete the ensemble.

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How'd you do the roofs!? I'm rather curious, and I didn't quite get how you did the details on the brake coach. I have 3 Clarabels and 1 Annie awaiting paint, mind sharing a secret? :P

Love the Breakdown Train as well.

WOW! Splendid! How did u do the brake coach and the roof? They look soooooooo good! They r very acurate! Very nice. 10/10

Right, you ready?
Here goes...

Roofs:

Get a piece of paper and cut it to the same size as the coach roof. Fold this in half length ways to get your centre line. Working from the edge of the piece of paper measure 13mm this is your first vent location, then measure from this point 27mm making this the second vent location, then another 27mm to the third vent and again another 27mm for the fourth and final position. Transfer these measurements to the coaches' roof.

The vents were made from cutting an uninterrupted (straight with no off chutes) sprue from a model kit and chopping it into 2.5mm lengths. This is done very carefully by putting the sprue on a flat surface and rolling a straight bladed scalpel back and forth on it until it cuts through. Be aware this takes a bit of force and once the plastic is ready to separate it does tend to want to ping across the room, be ready for this!!! Stick these into place and paint.

Brake coach:

Using the measurements from the stills takes from relevant episodes I made the below templates:

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You may need to resize these as the copying may have distorted them hence the measurements. I find that Microsoft Publisher is the best to do this but it's up to you what you use. If you wish I can send you the original in Microsoft Publisher form to your e-mail address, just let me know.

After printing out the templates onto some stiff card cut out 'Part 1' and score with care where shown. Fold where you have scored the card and offer this up to the end of the coach (popping the roof off first) to ensure the sizing is correct, use the on screen rulers to help. Whilst the structure is still flat position the coach end onto the main elevation and trace the shape of the top of the coach allowing the card edge to follow the under side of the roof. Once the sizing is correct using super glue and run a small bead along the joining edges hold the joins in place keeping your fingers clear until dry. You may wish to create flaps to help you stick this together, up to you.
Cut out 'Part 2', once this is done very carefully remove the grey shaded areas producing the outline of the ridges. Score and fold carefully along the dotted lines on the 'wings' this ought to be done before removing the grey areas as tearing can occur. Once this is done offer them up to 'Part 1' to ensure they fit, if so glue into position and paint.

I used some of the clear plastic from my recent purchases from Bachmann to cut out window shapes. Paint the back of them grey and once dry stick them into place. The same is done with the front facing long windows on the 'wings' on 'Part 1'.

Hope you understand this okay I tend to over explain things.

Good luck, show me yours once done.

Invest in an aibrush. Your painting and weathering will look much better.

very well done. I like the weathering for the brakedown train, it looks very used. Will you be making the workman's coach to go along with the crane?

Thank you. If I am able to find a suitable coach for the 'Works Unit' then yes, but I don't know if anybody has any ideas regarding the type I could use or where I could look to get some ideas? I might convert the hornby track cleaning coach into something that resembles the coach unit then.

Quote from: Sodor Perfection on January 12, 2009, 12:20:58 PM
Thank you. If I am able to find a suitable coach for the 'Works Unit' then yes, but I don't know if anybody has any ideas regarding the type I could use or where I could look to get some ideas? I might convert the hornby track cleaning coach into something that resembles the coach unit then.

For the 'Works Unit' coah you could use the Tomy model that comes with Harvey & modify it.

Quote from: ThomasFan247 on January 14, 2009, 08:28:10 PM

Quote from: Sodor Perfection on January 12, 2009, 12:20:58 PM
Thank you. If I am able to find a suitable coach for the 'Works Unit' then yes, but I don't know if anybody has any ideas regarding the type I could use or where I could look to get some ideas? I might convert the hornby track cleaning coach into something that resembles the coach unit then.

For the 'Works Unit' coah you could use the Tomy model that comes with Harvey & modify it.

Using a toy!!! :P  What are you thinking TF247!?! :P

Quote from: Shawmut Railway on January 24, 2009, 02:00:56 PM

Quote from: ThomasFan247 on January 14, 2009, 08:28:10 PM

Quote from: Sodor Perfection on January 12, 2009, 12:20:58 PM
Thank you. If I am able to find a suitable coach for the 'Works Unit' then yes, but I don't know if anybody has any ideas regarding the type I could use or where I could look to get some ideas? I might convert the hornby track cleaning coach into something that resembles the coach unit then.

For the 'Works Unit' coah you could use the Tomy model that comes with Harvey & modify it.

Using a toy!!! :P  What are you thinking TF247!?! :P

Along the right lines...

The sides from it can be used to bash a decent model. They work out roughly to scale in 4mm to the foot.

However, the rest is junk. :D

Quote from: Shawmut Railway on January 24, 2009, 02:00:56 PM

Quote from: ThomasFan247 on January 14, 2009, 08:28:10 PM

Quote from: Sodor Perfection on January 12, 2009, 12:20:58 PM
Thank you. If I am able to find a suitable coach for the 'Works Unit' then yes, but I don't know if anybody has any ideas regarding the type I could use or where I could look to get some ideas? I might convert the hornby track cleaning coach into something that resembles the coach unit then.

For the 'Works Unit' coah you could use the Tomy model that comes with Harvey & modify it.

Using a toy!!! :P  What are you thinking TF247!?! :P

I'm thinking it would would work. Corrie used an ERTL Toad, Jack used a Tomy Henrietta, ERTL Ben, AND something else but I forget. I used an ERTL Henrietta (though it sucked (the finished model)). It's worked for lots of people.

Yes, I saw your Henrietta. :P  Good thing Bachmann made her, because mine would have been worse. :D

Breakdown 'Works Unit' mock up, not the best it could be but it'll get there.

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Above is the orginal series version for comparison, no contest really but until Bachmann or someone else produces there own it'll have to do.

Final 'Works Unit' model is in production, this will have a better finish and decals for the lettering on the coach sides.

And Edward's Branch line Coaches;

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More updates coming soon...

Hi mate.

I'm loving these models. A lot of time and effort went into these.

10/10

BTW, I have a forum for modelling TTTE, care to show your work there?

http://sodormodelling.proboards.com/index.cgi

Mate I love your models.  :P I wasn't expecting the old coaches from Season 1, they look grand!

Here's the finished model of the Breakdown Crane Works Unit;

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Sorry I never posted sooner, but I LOVE what you have done so far with your modeling! :D 

The Breakdown Crane Works Unit looks fantastic, I especially love the weathering and detail you gave it.  Looks great with your breakdown train too. 

All of your work is great, my personal favorite though is your old coaches from Season 1.  Like Sparks said, I didn't expect them coming out either but they look awesome! 

Keep up the good work mate. :)

Thanks for your reply Chaz, yours and others encourage me to carry on...if you or anybody has any suggestions for my next project then please let me know and I'll get on it.

Thanks again.

No problem, I always love encouraging modelers to do their best with projects. :)  Anyways I don't have any requests, in fact in all honesty if you didn't make the old coaches from the first season I would have suggested that. :P  If you would like a suggestion how about Henry's log car with a log load.  I think it would be really interesting to see how that would turn out, seeing how well your other projects have turned out in the past.

And no problem, your collection of models is amazing and I am very impressed. :)

That is a nice model.

I'd love to see you do a model of Old Slow Coach... [/hint]

I think Rocky would be AWESOME!!!!!! BTW I LOVE your models!!! They're fantastic!!! Did you use the tomy works unit coach?

Rocky would be a bit big of a project. :P

If we're speaking on engines, I'd like to see you take a shot at Arthur. Dunno why, but seems to be a project that you would do. :P

I used the wheels from an Annie/Clarabel coach, and made the rest from card, in much the same way I made the extension section for the Red Branch line coach.

The log flat bed trucks and Arthur I think are possible and I don't want to be black balled but I think that Hornby's version of Old Slow Coach is pretty good, but I think that Rocky is just a little too ambitious (but you never know).

Any more suggestions? and I won't shoot all them down...

Awesome, and I can't think of anymore at the moment honestly.  Rocky does sound like a challenging project I agree with that one. :P  The Hornby Old Slow coach model is a great model, really accurate wouldn't hurt to see how you would do with making one. 

Also once you make plans for Arthur and the log flat bed trucks, I wish you the best of luck. :)

Quote from: Sodor Perfection on February 16, 2009, 01:26:00 PM
I used the wheels from an Annie/Clarabel coach, and made the rest from card, in much the same way I made the extension section for the Red Branch line coach.

The log flat bed trucks and Arthur I think are possible and I don't want to be black balled but I think that Hornby's version of Old Slow Coach is pretty good, but I think that Rocky is just a little too ambitious (but you never know).

Any more suggestions? and I won't shoot all them down...

Mate it's ok. I forgot Hornby made a model... :p

With rocky, the tomy main part with face fits the Hornby 75ton crane with relative ease. Just a bit of hacking here and there.

Well Hornbys 75 ton crane was my thinking for a platform for Rocky, if I was to go down the route of manufacturing my own version.

I am aware that the 'Thomas' Holiday Special' set includes a snow plough but does anybody have any ideas of how I could get my hands on one instead of making my own, or purchasing the set (which I don't really want to do as I have no need for accessories that come with it.)

The Thomas Snowplough could be made from the Tomy one made last year I think. It was about £19.99 with Track + loco you could sell on ebay.

Quote from: Sodor Perfection on February 22, 2009, 09:42:37 AM
I am aware that the 'Thomas' Holiday Special' set includes a snow plough but does anybody have any ideas of how I could get my hands on one instead of making my own, or purchasing the set (which I don't really want to do as I have no need for accessories that come with it.)

If you wanted to use the Bachmann snow plow you would have to buy the set. It is only compatible with the Thomas from the set.

I did eventually invest in the Holiday Special set but I tried my hand at making my own snow plough for Thomas before my purchase.
Here are some pictures;

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Not too shabby...

Yours is great

that looks cool, i wish i had a modelling talent like that

i want to make a thomas engine in n scale with a minitirx 0-6-0 engine i have it dosent look like any charters but i want to customise it but i need a way to make in n scale face for it

Quote from: derricknscaler on March 15, 2009, 09:13:07 PM
i want to make a thomas engine in n scale with a minitirx 0-6-0 engine i have it dosent look like any charters but i want to customise it but i need a way to make in n scale face for it

You could just buy a Tomix one. They make Thomas, Percy, James, & Henry + Annie, Clarabel, 2 T.Trucks, Fuel Tanker, Foolish Freight Car (Vent Van w/Face), S.C. Ruffey, Mail Coach, & the Express Coaches (Red). You probably aware of that though.

Your snowplough puts the manufactured one to total shame.

yeah but i also want a n scale gorden and edward so that i would have all six of the first engines in the series

the snowplough looks more like the one from the show more then bachmenns its awsome!!

Quote from: derricknscaler on March 18, 2009, 09:03:55 PM
yeah but i also want a n scale gorden and edward so that i would have all six of the first engines in the series

That one I can't really help you with.  :(

'maybe want to add Gordon with a cable reel attached to his front buffer-beam'
                  SmokeyNSteamer - Wishlist thread

With the above suggestion I've decided to have a go at the cable reel for Gordon. I have already made a template for it and main construction is under way.

Construction of other bits and bobs are also under way...

Check back here soon for pictures...

Quote from: derricknscaler on March 15, 2009, 09:13:07 PM
i want to make a thomas engine in n scale with a minitirx 0-6-0 engine i have it doesn't look like any charters but i want to customise it but i need a way to make in n scale face for it

I don't mean it to sound like I'm telling you what to do but I'd wait for a manufacturer (like TOMIX) to make a model of each character themselves as although you can put a lot more stuff into an N scale railway layout everything is VERY expensive, which you probably already know.

And also if you go down the route of trying to alter an existing N scale model expense is a major factor if you happen to make  any mistakes.

Here are pictures of of Gordon's cable reel as per my previous post...

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Has been finished for a week or two now but was having trouble with the website I upload my pictures to.

Very nice mate

Lovely to see something so uncommon modelled.

how did u make that? it very nice

awsome cable reel how do you make these things there awsome
and is there any thing else your planing?

For sizes I used pictures from the Ladybird Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends books I have, specifically Percy Runs Away and Thomas Down the Mine.

Noticing from the books pictures the circumference of the cable drum was similar if not the same size as Gordon's front boogies. I then measured my HO Gordon's boogies and based the sizes on these figures.
Just as with the extended sectons of the red coach and snow plough I used my computer to make a template to what I believe where the component parts and printed the templates onto card. I then cut them out taking extra care as due to the size this was very fiddly, glued them together doubling up on some parts to give them that chunky look and also to add strength, painted it and used some thread again doubled up to make the cable.

I have got some plans for future projects but nothing near completion yet. Will post pictures/updates a.s.a.p. and as before suggestions are welcome.

cool way to make engine parts do you have any plans for diesel 10s
crane claw thing that he has on top ( i forgot what he called it)

Quote from: derricknscaler on March 27, 2009, 11:04:39 PM
cool way to make engine parts do you have any plans for diesel 10s
crane claw thing that he has on top ( i forgot what he called it)

He called it "Pinchy" in Thomas and the Magic Railroad, but in Calling All Engines, it was just called "the claw."

yeah i never saw any thing about calling all engines but do you plan on makeing it?

Quote from: derricknscaler on March 28, 2009, 02:33:20 PM
yeah i never saw any thing about calling all engines but do you plan on makeing it?

what do u mean "do u plan on making it" it was out in i believe 2004 (correct me if im wrong)

i mean diesel 10s claw

He called it "Pinchy" in Thomas and the Magic Railroad, but in Calling All Engines, it was just called "the claw."
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When the movie came out i called it Pepsi :D! I am serious and i don't know why! maybe it was because i was like five(can't remember age when i saw it) and i saw it in the movie theater and loved it!

Since the thread was brought back up, I can't help but ask if you do commissions? :P

Most likely would wish to send my Annie and Clarabels to you to be converted to the 4 wheelers, due to my own material shortage, possibly a breakdown train. :P

Would love to, but your Email is hidden!  :P

I was just going to have my three Clarabels and one Annie sent over to convert to coaches, then sent back. Not sure how we'd pay.

Wow man :o. You have got some talent with modeling. Your probably my new favorite costom modeler along with StanierJack

Now i got to go over to trainland and get some annie and clarabels to make the old and red coaches before Christmas comes and I get EDWARD ;D

I think it might be an illustration error, considering the NWR would most likely use LMS coaches.

Quote from: Sodor Perfection on March 26, 2009, 04:59:06 AM
Here are pictures of of Gordon's cable reel as per my previous post...

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Has been finished for a week or two now but was having trouble with the website I upload my pictures to.

Very detailed tow cable. Great job.

that's a really nice job! I've never seen anyone else do the cable before!

Cool Job!:)