As you know, so far, Bachmann has made 0-4-0Ts, 0-4-2Ts, and 2-4-4Ts. But I think Bachmann should go beyond those tank engines to other types.
Such as...
The 0-4-4T
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=455
The 0-4-0CA or compressed air
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=5860
The 0-6-0T
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1973
The 0-6-2T
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=392
and The 4-4-0T
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=850
I hope Bachmann considers these ideas. ;D
I would love to see a 2-6-2T logging loco. A similar 2-8-2T would probably be a bit too large for my purposes, unless a smaller protoype with this wheel arrangement could be found. I've always admired the Peninsula Terminal 2-6-2T done in HO Brass many years ago by NWSL/Toby, even though it was standard gauge. Something with similar proportions but in 30" gauge would be wonderful! But then again, if it's a 2-6-2 we're wishing for, an On30 SR&RL #24 would go perfectly with the 3 On30 Forneys I already have...
Bill Nielsen
Florida On30 Renegades
I found some more ideas including...
A 2-6-2T
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/BLW/262T-paulista-81.jpg
A 0-8-2T
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/082TCyprus4.jpg
A 2-4-2T+Tender
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/242T-tenderMARR2.jpg
A 0-6-6-0T
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/0660T_FCdG.JPG
A 2-6-6-2T
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/2662T_Uintah_left.JPG
A 2-8-8-2T
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/2882T_FNdC_left.JPG
And a 0-4-4-0T Farlie
http://www.enuii.org/vulcan_foundry/mountaineer_denver_and_rio_grande.jpg
One related loco that I think has been sorely overlooked is a "fireless cooker". These were engines with fat, highly-insulated boilers that used superheated water from a stationary boiler. They were fairly common in industrial settings. Because there was no firebox, they needed less serious maintenance. There were two in the D.C. area at power plants into the 1970's, and a couple more up in Pennsylvania in that same period. I think Porter made most of them, but one of the D.C. locos came from Heisler.
Here's a pretty typical fireless loco down in Tweetsie country.
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1145
Sorry to be the bear of bad news, but that's not narrow gauge. However, I like the idea of a fireless engine. Mr. Bachmann, if you are there, how about a fireless engine? :) ;D :D ;) :-*
Quote from: superthomasfan on January 17, 2009, 06:41:00 PM
As you know, so far, Bachmann has made 0-4-0Ts, 0-4-2Ts, and 2-4-4Ts. But I think Bachmann should go beyond those tank engines to other types.
Such as...
The 0-4-4T
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=455
The 0-4-0CA or compressed air
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=5860
The 0-6-0T
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1973
The 0-6-2T
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=392
and The 4-4-0T
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=850
I hope Bachmann considers these ideas. ;D
The Duchess (0-6-0T)was originally built to 30 inch gauge for the Wellington Collieries Railway on Vancouver Island. See Robert D. Turner's "Vancouver Island Railways". It was later regauged to 3 foot and sold to the White Pass and Yukon and also served on the Atlin Southern and then went back to the WP&Y.
This would be a true 30 inch prototype.
Best Regards
Jim
Here are a few more ideas.
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=100
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=664
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/040T_GTP.JPG
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/BLW/BLW-ng-042T.jpg
I have come to believe that you can detect demand for certain types of locomotives by keeping an eye on the number of conversions or kit-bashings of stock locomotives. The more locomotive kits the aftermarket manufacturer sells, the higher the pent-up demand.
A certain well-known aftermarket manufacturer has put out a kit to convert Bachmann's HO scale standard-gauge 0-6-0T into an On30 tank engine with or without pilot or trailing trucks. I've bought such a tank engine and I've just ordered such a kit.
I think that one of the Hawaiian plantation tank locomotives might be a good bet.
Here are some more ideas. I've heard that Accucraft is making a model of an 0-6-6T.
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/american_fork_044t.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/brplrr_244t.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/CPS_0-6-4.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/Dup_286t.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/dspp_286t.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/dspprr_266t.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/mexico_266t.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/NewBrunswick.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/npcrr044.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/npcrr066.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/NS_Georgia_044T.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/nymbrr_044t.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/peach_bottom_066t.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/RiverduLoup.htm
http://www.ironhorse129.com/prototype/MasonBogie/Stockton_044t.htm
Note: If these are too many ideas, please don't get mad at me. I'm just a train fan. ;D
There are indeed many many possible prototypes. As Bachmann is likely to have room for only one, or possibly two, new tank locomotives we need to consider priorities. As I have posted previously I think there is a gap in Bachmann's range for an 18-30 ton, 2-6-2 or 0-62 tank locomotive. This would provide a larger locomotive quite different to the Porters. As an Australian I would love the 30 inch gauge "Puffing Billy: Baldwin desigend 2-6-2s - there was also a similat, though not identical, 30 inch gauge loco in Hawaii. There were also, as has been discussed before, 30 inch and 3 foot gauge 0-6-2ts in hawaii. My choice is one of the above.
Hamish
Just out of curiosity, are there any narrow gauge steam dummys? ???
A 2-6-2 or 0-6-2, T or ST (my personal preference is for a 2-6-2ST) would be a VERY welcome addition...
Cheers NB
hello everyone
Its again a hard choice I love the 2-6-2t Na's like at Puffing Billy and would be a first chice for me, but in saying that the Hawaian 0-6-2st would most likely sale well and would be hard to resist
Geoff
IMHO, exept the Puffing Billly, all these are stupid looking, UGLY
& childish looking & I truly hope Bachmann doesn't waste 10's of thousands of dollars making designs & dies for this junk.
Kit bashing is an art for type of junk. GO NUTS!
But Enjoy,
Barry
Big Bear, don't hold back! LOL.
I think a 2-6-2 outside frame tank engine could fit a lot of prototypes, including the puffing billy and "Bulldog Baldwins" that were common in Hawaii.
Mark
Quote from: superthomasfan on January 23, 2009, 05:40:28 PM
Just out of curiosity, are there any narrow gauge steam dummys? ???
You bet. Take a look:
(http://www.cincinnativiews.net/images-3/B.F.Brannan%27s%20Station-Mt.%20Lookout.jpg)
and, although I can find the picture at the moment, there was a narrow line in Cincinnati that (for a short time) used a steam dummy simialr to this Grandt Line Model:
(http://www.grandtline.com/model_railroad/o_scale_car_and_loco_gallery/gloria.jpg)
Mark,
I do, on occassion, hold back. But I just had to let loose.
Try "The 4 Spot" http://www.lumberjacksteamtrain.com/ I just love this Prairie (2-6-2).
I have been there a couple times. Great family oriented day filled with events. We take the grandkids, they love all the different things there is to do there.
A Prairie like this is about the only other locos I want besides my Moguls & Americans, Love them Americans.
Enjoy,
Barry
The lumberjack steam train is not narrow gauge. And I have a couple more ideas.
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1523
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=244
And how about compressed air locomotives?
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=5452
Barry,
my brother in law was just up there in northern Wisconsin this summer. It's an 8 hour drive for me (I'm in the Chicago area). I'd love to get up there, but I have three kids 3 and under, so we go to the Dells and the Riverside and Great Northern Railroad:
http://www.randgn.com/
Mark
Is it possible to do an engine like this? ???
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1644
I found some more ideas ;D
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1767
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1607
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=5326
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=155
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1609
Quote from: superthomasfan on January 26, 2009, 07:32:31 PM
I found some more ideas ;D
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=155
I would love to see this one made, even if it dosen't fit my prototype.
Great.
hello everyone
Love the 0-4-0st saddle tank! here in australia there are a few preserved and like that one are very attractive and could make fine model prospects ;D :D ;D :D ;D
(http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee360/aussie30inch/kiama.jpg)
(http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee360/aussie30inch/Picture023.jpg)
Geoff
If you want a 2-6-2T try this.
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa1/damsonskin/2-6-2T.jpg)
Convert a Mogul !!!
Top half of boiler removed under tank and old Soundtraxx decoder fitted with 1"spkr in top of Xeodon Stack. Headlight moved back and original domes shortened. Backup light added to bunker.
One of the new mini decoders (Tsunami or Loksound) and spkr could be mounted in bunker.
Eric UK
Cute tank engine. :) ;) :D ;D
Touching on an earlier theme, Mason Bogies are very nice engines but in practice they suffer the same problem many of us have with the Forneys.
Forneys are nice engines, but many of us On30 folk find that we lack the space to give them curvature to do them justice. That's why some On30 modelers saw off the backs of their Forneys, build small tenders to go with them, and turn their Forneys into tender engines.
Mason bogies have the same problem, only more pronounced. If a Forney would be happier with 24 to 26 inch curves instead of the 22 inch curves which many of us modular modelers possess, a Mason bogie would prefer something like a thirty to thirty two-inch radius curve.
In an ideal world, tight curves would be limited to sports cars and pretty girls. Alas, even in model railroading, it's a less-than-perfect world.
I'd like a tank engine bigger than the Porters, smaller than the 2-8-0, and capable of tackling an 18 inch radius curve without derailing.
Quote from: Mister Lee on February 01, 2009, 01:59:35 AM
Touching on an earlier theme, Mason Bogies are very nice engines but in practice they suffer the same problem many of us have with the Forneys.
Forneys are nice engines, but many of us On30 folk find that we lack the space to give them curvature to do them justice. That's why some On30 modelers saw off the backs of their Forneys, build small tenders to go with them, and turn their Forneys into tender engines.
Mason bogies have the same problem, only more pronounced. If a Forney would be happier with 24 to 26 inch curves instead of the 22 inch curves which many of us modular modelers possess, a Mason bogie would prefer something like a thirty to thirty two-inch radius curve.
In an ideal world, tight curves would be limited to sports cars and pretty girls. Alas, even in model railroading, it's a less-than-perfect world.
I'd like a tank engine bigger than the Porters, smaller than the 2-8-0, and capable of tackling an 18 inch radius curve without derailing.
That's why I created this topic. To give Bachmann inspiration for new products. Whether they'll do it or not, time will tell.