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Title: Satin finish and decals
Post by: Doug.Oaks on April 13, 2009, 01:56:13 PM
The unlettered tank cars have a nice satin finish. Is it advisable to cover it with gloss for the application of decals, or is it smooth enough as is?
Thanks,

Doug
Title: Re: Satin finish and decals
Post by: Kevin Strong on April 13, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
I've had good luck putting decals over a satin black finish.

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/Heisler/Heisler05.jpg)

The process is the same. The Heisler was the stock Bachmann finish, and I've put them over Krylon semi-flat (satin) black with equally good results.

Later,

K
Title: Re: Satin finish and decals
Post by: Paul W. on April 13, 2009, 06:46:22 PM
Doug,
I agree with Kevin, I have also had great luck with applying over a factory finish. After I add the decal, I do add on a clear coat finish to protect it.

Good luck
Title: Re: Satin finish and decals
Post by: Jon D. Miller on April 14, 2009, 12:06:52 AM
Agree with Kevin and Paul.

(http://www.largescaleonline.com/eimages/lsolpics/Team_Member_Pics/jlsrails/Rolling_Stock/100_3765.jpg)

The CD&StL logo is a water slide decal.  The large LPS is dry transfer.  Both were applied to the car right on to the factory finish.  Then given a light overcoat of clear satin finish to protect them.


One of the "Enthusiastic Children"

JD
Title: Re: Satin finish and decals
Post by: on30gn15 on May 07, 2009, 03:28:20 PM
Something to look at is Walthers, Microscale, Testors, and Floquil/Polly Scale, all make decal setting solvents which pretty much literally melt waterslide decals into the paint.

And, yes, satin or gloss paints are better for applying decals.
Flat paints under microscope have surface kind of looks like sandpaper in order to break up reflections. That is why decal film often "silvers" when applied over flat paints - film only sitcks to the high points.

Those clear flat, satin, or gloss overcoats are indeed good ideas.

Something else to do after waterslide decal dries is to take damp cloth to wipe off any excess adhesive around decal.
Title: Re: Satin finish and decals
Post by: Loco Bill Canelos on May 07, 2009, 09:44:31 PM
Works fine on satin finish, but I do use more setting solvent than for gloss.