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Title: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: jerryl on May 15, 2009, 12:34:34 PM
Iv'e seen the 2-6-6-2 in hobby shops but the adds all say they are backordered.  Are they being updated again?   I know LifeLike bought the tooling & are bringing them back cheaper & better.   The 2-6-6-2  came out about 2 years ago with a revolutionary Drawbar/ elec. connector. 
  Are the newer ones going to have further updates?    Jerry ???
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: Tim on May 15, 2009, 12:43:48 PM
Jerry

The Mantua 2-6-6-2's are made by Model Power.

They are sold under the "Mantua Classics" name.

They are currently available from several dealers as well
as direct from Model Power.

Tim Anders
Souderton, PA
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: rustyrails on May 15, 2009, 02:52:16 PM
this is a design that goes back to when I was a young man....sheesh!  It has been sold as both a 2-6-6-2T and also with a tender.  If you buy one, consider getting a brass repalcement for the stack...as designed the stack is a tad too long and it makes the proportions look just not quite right.  Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so this is just my two cents worth.
Rusty
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: jerryl on May 15, 2009, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: Tim on May 15, 2009, 12:43:48 PM
Jerry

The Mantua 2-6-6-2's are made by Model Power.

They are sold under the "Mantua Classics" name.

They are currently available from several dealers as well
as direct from Model Power.

Tim Anders  Sorry about that, I meant Model Power
Souderton, PA
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: Michigan Railfan on May 15, 2009, 05:12:32 PM
I'm not completely sure, but whats the difference between the 2-6-6-2T and the normal 2-6-6-2?
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: Pacific Northern on May 15, 2009, 05:35:59 PM
The 2-6-6-2T is a tank engine. No tender. The 2-6-6-2 has a tender.
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: grumpy on May 16, 2009, 12:57:02 AM
I have one of each . Very nice machines and fairly easy to convert to dcc.
Don
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: Yampa Bob on May 16, 2009, 02:31:16 AM
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMBX6&P=SM
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: OkieRick on May 16, 2009, 02:48:28 AM

No tender, Unpainted. $129

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/455-351603

Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: Tim on May 16, 2009, 06:03:38 AM
To All

http://www.micromark.com/MANTUA-CLASSICS-HO-SCALE-2-6-6-2T-ARTICULATED-LOGGING-TANK-LOCOMOTIVE,7368.html

$94.95

Tim Anders
Souderton, PA
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: Michigan Railfan on May 16, 2009, 11:04:31 AM
The one I've been looking at in my Model Railroader magazines was the one in Tims link. So, does anyone know if they can run on 18" curves?
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: rustyrails on May 16, 2009, 12:45:29 PM
Although the Model Power site has no information re: minimum radius for this engine, there is anecdotal evidence on the web that it can negotiate 18" radius curves.  Please note that while this locomotive is small for an articulated steamer, it is a large piece of machinery and the overhang on tight curves will be significant. 
Rusty
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: pdlethbridge on May 16, 2009, 02:19:18 PM
or you could get this
http://yardbirdtrains.com/YBSlocos.htm (http://yardbirdtrains.com/YBSlocos.htm)
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: Michigan Railfan on May 16, 2009, 02:25:02 PM
Actually, the one, same color and everything in the magazine was the one in pdlethbridges link. And as for overhang, I don't really care about it right now, after all, my "layout" is just a design of E-Z Track on my basement floor. I'm still hoping to eventually get one on a table.
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: jerryl on May 16, 2009, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: IndianaJones12 on May 16, 2009, 11:04:31 AM
The one I've been looking at in my Model Railroader magazines was the one in Tims link. So, does anyone know if they can run on 18" curves?
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Micro mark catalog states that the Tank version will do 18"R. I assume the one with the tender will also.   Jerry
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: ta152h0 on May 16, 2009, 05:35:56 PM
I have one, still in the box. Although I like the drawbar configuration with the wires within, i don't like this machine lacking the 8 pin connector I have gotten so used to.
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: Yampa Bob on May 16, 2009, 06:31:15 PM
Most Digitrax decoders, such as DH123P or DH123PS come with adapter harnesses. "P" indicates long harness with plug, "PS" for short length.

Digitrax also offers the JST 9 pin to NMRA 8 pin adapter harness as a separate item. Cost is about $5, available in one inch and three inch wire lengths.

Many companies now use JST 9 pin connectors, they have tighter contacts and are polarized to only connect one way. I predict the 8 pin socket and plug will be eventually phased out.
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: ta152h0 on May 16, 2009, 10:43:14 PM
Hopefully they will have a standard wire color and location code that applies to all manufacturers. I don't know at what point the line is crossed between NMRA standards and proprietary design.
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: rustyrails on May 16, 2009, 10:59:54 PM
 The rails are commonly thought of as the dividing line.  The command station, throttle and booster all are normally from the same manufactuerer and the DCC standard does not apply to how those units communicate with each other.  The rails carry the power to run the locomotive and the signal that tells the decoder what to do.  ALL decoders are suppose to understand those signals and respond appropriately. Decoders may have different feature sets, but they all speak the same language.
Rusty
Title: Re: Mantua 2-6-6-2
Post by: Yampa Bob on May 16, 2009, 11:08:54 PM
As I mentioned in my thread "Pictures and Diagrams", the only consistency with wire colors is the inconsistency.

Decoders comply with the color standards, I see no reason why locomotive and tender wiring shouldn't likewise comply. Until it does, the best approach is to learn typical pinouts and ignore the colors.

Another reason why every modeler should have at least one multimeter, to trace out the wiring when something goes wrong.