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Title: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: jonathan on June 12, 2009, 09:15:52 PM
Allrighty then,  this is a test to see if I got the system down, now.  I resized this image to "320" wide.  Can you see it?  If so, this is an old Roundhouse kit #1427 B&O Rectangular 20' ore car.  I fell in love with it the minute I saw it on an LHS shelf... abandoned and alone.  I rescued it, and now I'm on a never ending quest to find its identical bretheren and sistern. 


(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSCN0382.jpg)

It looks great behind my connies, 44-tonner, and H16-44.  The weathering is all dry-brush.  I think the greenish tint is the reflection off the ground foam onto the car.  I'm a lousy photographer, but will get better.

Regards,  Jonathan
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: SteamGene on June 12, 2009, 09:29:10 PM
Looks like B&O 976.
Gene
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: jonathan on June 12, 2009, 09:49:12 PM
Gene,

The car number is 975.  The kit model number is 1427.

S,

Jonathan (RPC, USNret) brother?
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: RAM on June 12, 2009, 10:23:26 PM
I have 4 red one undec.  I may have more of different road names. 
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: jonathan on June 12, 2009, 10:38:44 PM
RAM

I've only found one other so far.  It was light  LIGHT green.  Penn Central or something.  I repainted it to match the B&O (hull red plus a touch of this and a touch of that).  Now I need Capitol Dome Decals or dry transfers.
R, Jonathan
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: ALCOS4EVER on June 13, 2009, 08:09:25 AM
     I see these as kits and already built for sale at train shows a lot. Usually about $5.00 each.
     I saw a 100 plus car train of these operate at a model RR club open house in Mass. a couple of years ago. Very impressive. I love long trains.
     Good work and good luck.
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: uncbob on June 13, 2009, 08:16:15 AM
I bought 12 of Walters new Data only Ore cars and decorated them for my ME&O
Made my own fake ore loads

Had my 4-8-2 pulling 24 coal cars and the 12   ores plus caboose

Looks neat but a bit too long for my 4X10 layout 
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: WoundedBear on June 13, 2009, 01:50:48 PM
Try some of these ones. I have a string of these servicing the mines on my layout.

http://www.micromark.com/HO-SCALE-22-WOODEN-ORE-CAR-KITS-PKG-OF-2,8942.html (http://www.micromark.com/HO-SCALE-22-WOODEN-ORE-CAR-KITS-PKG-OF-2,8942.html)

(http://www.micromark.com/RS/SR/Product/84025_R.jpg)

Sid
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: CNE Runner on June 13, 2009, 07:28:43 PM
Sid, I have been drooling over these cars in the Micro Mark catalog as well. Unfortunately they are too 'new' for my circa 1889 layout...then again I suppose I could play a little loose with history (these cars were first produced around 1902).

Ray
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: jonathan on June 13, 2009, 10:08:02 PM
CNE wrote, "then again I suppose I could play a little loose with history (these cars were first produced around 1902)."

Remember rule one...

My story is these ore cars were released from ore service in 1924, and continued on serving as ballast cars, and leased by B&LE to haul coal in long consists from WV to Ohio, turn around at the Great Lakes shoreline and head back for more ballast or coal.  That's why you see them in the switchbacks being pulled by late steam and early diesel.  Works for me...  and at least partially true.

R,  J
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: Yampa Bob on June 13, 2009, 11:19:49 PM
Jonathan,
I just visited your album, it loaded fast and the pictures look great. I'm especially impressed with the lighting and detail.  Good job.

Hey, I always say: "It's my story and I can tell it any way I want to".   :D
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: BestSnowman on June 16, 2009, 06:24:07 PM
Thats a nice ore car, it looks very similar to the some DM&IR ore cars walthers has.

I'm not sure what it is, but I have this draw towards Ore Cars. All I have right now for ore cars is some Bachmann Ore Cars in DM&IR, UP, and PRR because thats what I can find at the local hobby lobby (though they only carry one at a time).
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: jonathan on June 16, 2009, 09:04:43 PM
BestStnowman,

I never was a fan for those outside braced ore cars.  Like you, I can't explain it, but these little shorty ore car kits are the greatest thing since sliced bread.  I wish one of the major manufacturers (hint hint) would get the molds for these beauties and re-release them.  They must not have sold well when Roundhouse originally put on the market.  I must have bad luck, too, because most modellers I talk to say they see them all the time at train shows.  I never do, and I really, really look.

Yampa Bob,

Thanks for the kind words.  When I start adding people, lights, signs, animals, poles, trash cans, gates, weathering, bushes, etc, etc, I take a few more shots and post 'em.  Just figured this was a good spot to record progress on the build.

R,  J
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: CNE Runner on June 18, 2009, 05:59:03 PM
I really enjoyed your Photobucket album...very well organized. Your layout looks great and must be a source of pride. Thanks for allowing us to share your world.

Regards,
Ray
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: jonathan on June 18, 2009, 09:01:52 PM
Thanks, Ray.  It's not up their with my kids, but it's certainly brings me joy. 

If you want to see something not so well organized, check out the ghastly weathering on some of my box cars.  Ah, well, it must mean I need MORE weathering.

Anyway, I've got some recoupling to do...

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: Pacific Northern on June 22, 2009, 09:40:09 PM
Quote from: jonathan on June 12, 2009, 09:15:52 PM
Allrighty then,  this is a test to see if I got the system down, now.  I resized this image to "320" wide.  Can you see it?  If so, this is an old Roundhouse kit #1427 B&O Rectangular 20' ore car.  I fell in love with it the minute I saw it on an LHS shelf... abandoned and alone.  I rescued it, and now I'm on a never ending quest to find its identical bretheren and sistern. 


(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/DSCN0382.jpg)

It looks great behind my connies, 44-tonner, and H16-44.  The weathering is all dry-brush.  I think the greenish tint is the reflection off the ground foam onto the car.  I'm a lousy photographer, but will get better.

Regards,  Jonathan
I just bought a set of 12 of these. They are GN cars produced by Walthers in their Gold line.
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: jonathan on June 26, 2009, 10:19:01 PM
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN0589-1.jpg)
(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu146/jsnvogel/Rolling%20Stock/DSCN0588-1.jpg)

Just scored 5 Roundhouse Ore Cars for $6 a piece.  They came with Intermountain wheelsets, kadee's, and loads.  I weathered 'em a bit.  Looks like B&O is truly rare.  So far I have 1 B&O and 11 B&LE.  Oh well, I like these, too.  Now all I need is a bunch of brakewheels... seems Roundhouse forgot to put them in the kits.  Where's that box of old, broken rolling stock...

R,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: uncbob on June 27, 2009, 09:04:48 AM
Walters new release 12 pack --data only decorated for my RR and with homemade loads

Kaydee couplers and all metal wheel sets 

(http://www.geocities.com/~bandb/oresml.jpg)
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: jonathan on June 27, 2009, 11:06:43 AM
Gorgeous, man!

Jonathan
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on June 27, 2009, 08:29:37 PM
Most B&O Cars roundhouse put out before horizon took em over are hard to find. I found three, 1 i was looking for a while, and the other two i didnt know exsisted!

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee31/BaltoOhioRRFan/Dscf0160.jpg)
Got that one via ebay, its the one i been looking for but only seen them on ebay for $20 each, got that one for $12 plus shipping i think

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee31/BaltoOhioRRFan/Dscf0163.jpg)
thats one i didnt know exsisted until i saw it on ebay one night. i forget how much i paid for it but it was only about $8 or $9

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee31/BaltoOhioRRFan/Dscf0158.jpg)
SAw that one at a train show in the MD area, picked it up with no hesitation. was $3

Heres two rare Passenger cars by Roundhouse, I picked these up today at the train show.
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee31/BaltoOhioRRFan/Dscf0165.jpg)
(I know i'm a B&O Fan, but i couldnt resist that one, the paint scheme was just to eye catching

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee31/BaltoOhioRRFan/Dscf0166.jpg)
I know its the wrong color scheme, i got a baggage and 2 coaches (Rivarossi cars) that i painted up in the correct colors

Side note:
Heres another car i picked up at the train show. a Athearn blue box kit, but i think it was made for a specfic company, anyone ever see it before?
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee31/BaltoOhioRRFan/Dscf0157.jpg)

also about those B&O Ore Cars, i've seen a bunch of B&O ones at the GSMTS at Timonium Fair Grounds in Maryland(happens 4 times a year, Met the bach-man there twice, great guy to talk to!) weather or not they were the roundhouse ones i donno as they were unboxed.
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: jonathan on June 27, 2009, 09:13:27 PM
I don't get out to the Timonium show, but I do make it to the one at the EXPO center (Chantilly) twice a year... once in a while Fredericksburg.  Last time one of the vendors told me he had a dozen of the B&O ore cars (Roundhouse), and a fellow came in 5 minutes before me and bought every one of them.  Was that you?

Those are cool cars you acquired.  Congrats, the most fun about this hobby is finding that rare "treasure".  The great part is we all have a different idea about what "treasure" is.  Theoretically, that makes more treasure for all of us.  AAAARRRRRGH.

Regards,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on June 27, 2009, 09:19:07 PM
Nah it wasnt me, i'm not all that big on the 20 ft ore cars, i have a few i think they're 25 or 30  foot 70 ton ore cars. I have a few more OT roundhouse Box Cars in V&T, PRR, Tonopah & Tidewater, Northern Pacific, Colorado Midland, Sioux City Pacific, Maryland & Pennsylvania. I also have a Custom made B&O Fruit car using an IHC box car. Got tha ton ebay, didnt know it was custom made until i got it, great job the guy did on it.(The seller didnt know it was custom made eather!)

hey do you have AIM? if so IM me sometime, my SN is BaltoOhioRRFan.
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: jonathan on June 27, 2009, 09:38:33 PM
I don't, and I'm hesitant to publish my email address on a public forum.  I understand the 'sending a personal message' feature doesn't work on this forum.  Perhaps you have an idea.    My best Roundhouse stuff is this set of SHAY commemorative cars... OT box car to 36' passenger cars and a matching caboose.  Bought the set about 25 years ago I'm guessing.  I just put metal wheelsets and knuckle couplers on them... really I'm putting the last wheels on as I type this.

BTW I notice on your "collection" website, you have the royal blue 4-4-0.  There's one at my LHS and I've been holding off on picking it up.  How does yours run?  Did you make extra wipers out of centering springs (saw this on line somewhere)?

r,

Jonathan
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: BaltoOhioRRfan on June 27, 2009, 09:41:00 PM
Runs great. I havent had any problems with it. well i have one, i have three sets of coaches for it.....Mantua's OT B&O Coaches, and both roundhouse Overtons and Overlands....haha.

by the way AIM is 100% free and can be download at www.aim.com its great for talkin to people.
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: OkieRick on June 27, 2009, 09:47:16 PM
Quote from: WoundedBear on June 13, 2009, 01:50:48 PM
Try some of these ones. I have a string of these servicing the mines on my layout.

http://www.micromark.com/HO-SCALE-22-WOODEN-ORE-CAR-KITS-PKG-OF-2,8942.html (http://www.micromark.com/HO-SCALE-22-WOODEN-ORE-CAR-KITS-PKG-OF-2,8942.html)

(http://www.micromark.com/RS/SR/Product/84025_R.jpg)

Sid


Bear,

Do these kits come with metal wheels and knuckle couplers?

Thanks-
OkieRick

Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: jonathan on June 27, 2009, 09:47:42 PM
Thanks, will check it out tomorrow.  Gotta get some zzz's.
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: Santa Fe buff on June 27, 2009, 10:04:09 PM
OkieRick,
   It appears so. If not, it's easy to find them, but a pain to have to go and get. :)

Joshua
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: WoundedBear on June 27, 2009, 10:07:09 PM
Rick....

The cars come with plastic wheels. Each car's truck is comprised of 16 seperate pieces, only 2 of which are wheels sets ( 1 pair of wheels on an axle). Assembling the other 14 pieces into a frame that will accept the wheel sets is a whole other challenge....lol.

The kits come with metal truss rods and grab irons, and are made to accept a KD #5 or equivalent coupler.....which you must supply.

Tichy supplies superb instructions along with paint and weathering tips. The engraved detail on the various parts is outstanding....but....these are not for the faint hearted modeler.

Sid
Title: Re: Wish I had 100 of these.
Post by: OkieRick on June 29, 2009, 11:26:38 PM
Thank you all. That's what I need to know.

Rick