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Title: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: usher42 on July 08, 2009, 12:16:32 AM
What locomotive was shown in the movie pearl made in 2001


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: Joe Satnik on July 08, 2009, 12:58:12 AM
Dear Usher42,

From the Freedomtrain.org  website:

"Did you catch a glimpse of Santa Fe Locomotive #3751 in the movie "Pearl Harbor"? The scene with the big 4-8-4 steam locomotive was filmed at Los Angeles Union Station."

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: glennk28 on July 08, 2009, 08:51:40 PM
Didn't see that movie--but at Pearl Harbor and the rest of Oahu most railroading was 3-foot gauge.   You might actually say that in Hawaii 3 foot was the standard gauge.  Mostly smaller locos, but they did have four ALCo Mikados that were copies of the Rio Grande K-28's--but burned oil and had the air pumps on the side.  gj


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: Frisco on July 08, 2009, 09:11:54 PM
Yes, almost all Hawaiiian railroads were 3 foot, the locomotive in the movie is 3751, you know Hollywood  ;).


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: JDLX on July 09, 2009, 12:35:41 AM
First off...don't go bashing Hollywood that quick.  Parts of the movie depicted the lives of the main characters prior to the war, and that is the part of the movie the trains showed up in.  I recall no hints of Hawaian railroading in the film.

I think Joe's right in that the #3751 had a cameo appearance in the movie.  The film crews also used the SP 4-6-0 (I think) that the Pacific Southwest Railroad Museum has at Campo, California.  It got more air time than the #3751 and actually showed up running at track speed a time or two. 

This being said...in one of the scenes a couple of the characters are seated in a coach as a train is pulling out of a major terminal, and about half of a modern passenger diesel is visible through their big picture window.  Hollywood ain't perfect after all. 

Jeff Moore
Elko, NV


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: GN.2-6-8-0 on July 09, 2009, 10:09:30 AM
Noticed on the trailer for Public Enemies a shot of Milwaukee Road 261


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: MilwaukeeRoadfan261 on July 26, 2011, 12:27:26 PM
Noticed on the trailer for Public Enemies a shot of Milwaukee Road 261
The reason the Public Enemies trailer shows the Milwaukee Road 261 is because it is in the movie. Only for a couple minutes, but it was still in the movie.


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: Michigan Railfan on July 26, 2011, 01:42:12 PM
This is one of my favorite movies. JDLX was right. The scenes with the train were not on Hawaii, but instead here in the lower 48 (can't remember exactly which state). Like JD said, no trains were shown on Hawaii. Just ships, cars and trucks  ;)


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: ryeguyisme on July 26, 2011, 02:17:33 PM
Noticed on the trailer for Public Enemies a shot of Milwaukee Road 261
The reason the Public Enemies trailer shows the Milwaukee Road 261 is because it is in the movie. Only for a couple minutes, but it was still in the movie.

I thought it was a UP FEF


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: glennk28 on July 26, 2011, 06:11:00 PM
The Campo loco would be close--ex SP ng #1 (2nd)  went to the Nevada County Narrow Gauge as their #9, then on to the USNavy at Pearl Harbor.
gj


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: jbrock27 on July 12, 2014, 08:32:46 PM
Posted by: Michigan Railfan    Posted on: July 26, 2011, 11:42:12 AM
Insert Quote
This is one of my favorite movies.

You're joking right?!?  This was one of the worst movies ever made, period.  You want a movie about Pearl Harbor?  Watch Tora! Tora! Tora!


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: r0gruth on July 16, 2014, 09:20:32 PM
Posted by: Michigan Railfan    Posted on: July 26, 2011, 11:42:12 AM
Insert Quote
This is one of my favorite movies.

You're joking right?!?  This was one of the worst movies ever made, period.  You want a movie about Pearl Harbor?  Watch Tora! Tora! Tora!

I agree.Do a little research.


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: Desertdweller on July 16, 2014, 09:31:10 PM
I thought "Pearl Harbor" was a very entertaining movie.  It's main problem is that it was promoted as an historical film, which it certainly wasn't.

Lots of things were historically incorrect (too many to list here).  But, unless you went to the movie to get educated about an historical event (and who would), there was a lot of good entertainment in the movie.

After all, would you go to "1941" to learn historical facts about the US entry into WWII?

Les


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: Doneldon on July 16, 2014, 11:53:33 PM
After all, would you go to "1941" to learn historical facts about the US entry into WWII?Les

Les-

I agree that Pearl Harbor was a fun film and I'm glad I saw it. I must, however, add that I wouldn't see 1941
under any circumstances. I saw part of it once and decided it was just too awful to continue. I usually like stupid movies
but 1941 was outside of my humor appreciation quotient.
                                                                                                  -- D


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: jbrock27 on July 17, 2014, 07:01:23 AM
After all, would you go to "1941" to learn historical facts about the US entry into WWII?

Les


LOL!  No, Les I would not, as "1941" was billed as a comedy ::)  "Pearl Harbor" was billed as a drama.  I, like Doc have never bothered to watch "1941" in it's entirety.  I guess what you know, or don't know, can influence what someone values as "entertainment", particularly when it comes to a movie about a historical event.  For someone to call "Pearl Harbor" one of their favorite movies like Michigan Railfan did??-Poor taste in movies in my view.  It was awful, no matter how you want to slice it and I stick to my post, sir, yes sir!

Now, for a universally accepted awful movie that I found entertaining, I pick "Armageddon" ;)


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: ebtnut on July 30, 2014, 04:53:02 PM
Couple of side notes on movie locos - SR No. 4501 appeared in at least two movies:  Fried Green Tomatoes and Fool's Parade.  She was also supposed to appear in Coal Miner's Daughter.  However, she had a dry pipe failure which resulted in Royal Hudson 2839 subbing in.  Not exactly a back-woods Kentucky loco! 


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: rogertra on July 30, 2014, 06:33:06 PM
The locomotive in the Harry Potter movies is all wrong as well.  Yes, we know it's fiction but they depart from Kings Cross station, which was an LMS (London Midland Scottish Railway) station, whereas the loco in the movies is a GWR (Great Western Railway) Hall class loco and would served the west of England departing London from Paddington station, which doesn't have a platform 93/4.

Besides which, a Hall class locomotive should be painted GWR brunswick green and not that LMS maroon.

But then movie and TV show producers never really care about accuracy in any railroad scenes.  They'll take great care with costumes, scenery, props, cars, signage, etc., etc., but any train in the shot?  "Ah, who cares?  It's train, nobody will notice or care if it's wrong."


Cheers

Roger T.


Title: Re: Pearl Harbor movie Loocomotive
Post by: Skarloey Railway on July 30, 2014, 07:52:51 PM
Eight HP films has proved a nice little earner for Olton Hall and if you look at the engine on the cover of the first edition of the first Harry Potter book http://boingboing.net/assets_mt/2011/03/22/harry-potter.jpg I'd say Olton Hall was a massive improvement.

I think it is a little unfair to lay the blame for the inaccurate portrayal of railways wholly on the film makers. Any film set in the SW of England circa 1930-50 is going to be spoilt for choice for appropriate stock and locations, but there are massive gaps in the preservation ranks when it comes to other regions and time periods.

Mind you, I do recall watching a documentary on the building of the Central Pacific that had a shay in one shot.