The Ingenio Angelina 2-6-6-2 has long been a favourite of mine. For information on the prototype see
http://loggingmallets.railfan.net/export/ingenio9.htm
(http://loggingmallets.railfan.net/export/ingenio9.htm)
and for a photo
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/2662_Ingenio_9.JPG
(http://narrowmind.railfan.net/2662_Ingenio_9.JPG)
It's great to see Bachmann making another genuine 30 inch gauge loco, congratulations!!!
Hamish
While it looks to be correct according to the photo of the prototype 30" gauge loco, to me, the boiler just looks too small in diameter. Since I'm trying to focus my On30 modeling more on the Maine two foot prototypes, I'm kind of glad this one looks strange to me, otherwise I would have to be trying to figure out how to conjure up a way to justify trying to work it in with my Forneys. I already went through that with the OF 2-8-0 and both of the 4-4-0's! Still, it WOULD look good pulling a long string of the Bachmann log cars...
Regards,
Bill
I hope the sound one will have the correct Mallat chuff rate, as that would be music to my ears. :)
I dont quite get how they have numbered the models though, as alot of the models share numbers, so you could buy a non sound and sound versions in the same roadname with different numbers.
GREENBRIER & BIG RUN LUMBER CO. #41
GREENBRIER & BIG RUN LUMBER CO. #42 Sound
POCAHONTAS LUMBER CO. #40 Sound
POCAHONTAS LUMBER CO. #42
MIDWEST QUARRY & MINING CO. #43
MIDWEST QUARRY & MINING CO. #44 Sound
COLORADO MINING CO. #46
COLORADO MINING CO. #48 Sound
Would it not make sence to have one of the #42s as #45 or #47?
Im not really bothered as I will only be able to afford one, im just interested as how Bachmann pick their engines numbers.
Now, how do I expand my layout to get one of these to fit... :P
Assuming that Bachmann is committed to using Tsunami technology in all of its sound equipped engines, then I think you will find the proper steam sync sound.
Bob
Other picture: http://us.leforum.eu/image/28/4/c/1/fake_on30-10be422.jpg.htm
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this engine looks to me like someone took an O scale cab and stuck it on an HO locomotive. When I heard that bachmann was doing an 2-6-6-2 in O scale I was hoping for the same nicely proportioned engine that they had announced for 1:20.3 Oh well.
Mr. Bach-man
You told me at the WGH show in San Antonio, that if I didn't like the upcoming loco release, that you would send me one free. I don't like it times two.. Both undecorated versions with sound. Please e-mail me for my mailing address.
David Coates
Hill Country Outlaw
I would not like to see it pushing a string of Koppel ore cars up the incline to the ore transfer.in Boquillas...no way. And where's my Outside frame Hawaiian 0-6-2T, and my cane cars, and my pineapple cars, and my steel Boxcar...
It is a model of a REAL 30 inch gauge locomotive. Most of us think of giant locomotives when you mention articulated steam power, but a lot of articulated locomotives on industrial lines or logging lines were an attempt to spread out axle loadings on light trackage.
Picture this locomotive as a 2-8-2 and all of a sudden it does not look quite as "small."
By the way, most of the 2-6-6-2 that have been bashed by adding a cab to a HO 2-6-6-2 have been of this locomotive.
Hamish has identified the prototype correctly in addition to the link provided those with a library may wish to refer back to Allen Brewster's article in the November 1983 issue of MR (pages 126 and 127, photo and drawings). Bachmann have really outdone themselves with these new releases. There goes my resolve to accept that I already have too much motive power.
I think the loco will show up on a lot of HO layouts as well as On30 layouts. I saw the engineering samples at the Hartford show today... those things are TINY!! :o Tear out the cab, and modify the backup light and it would make a more than suitable HO scale locomotive.
QuoteMilan was the smallest 2-6-6-2 built in North America
That might explain why, if it is the prototype mentioned above.
The prototype has a 43' and 9.5" long wheelbase, so does anyone know what calculations I need to do to find out what that would be in 1/4inch scale? I.e. to find out how long the model should be roughly.
Judging from the Brewster drawing the 2-6-6-2 is very similar to a stretched version of the current OF 4-4-0. The cab is the same size as is the boiler diameter but the boiler is approximately 3/4 inch longer. The Ingenio Angelino prototype is quoted as having 33" drivers on 36" centers the total wheelbase (lead truck to trailing truck c/l) is 27' 0". The 1983 MR article has both a prototype photo, 1/4" drawing and suggestions on making a similar engine from parts that were conventionally available at that time.
Max
With a length of 43ft divide by 4 and you get 10&3/4inchs in length. just looking at
the plans from MR.
Ken Clark
GWN
Strange choices for production models if you ask me. Not one bit impressed with their decisions the past two years.
Don't send me one. Not even for free...
Quote from: finderskeepers on July 10, 2009, 06:07:41 PM
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this engine looks to me like someone took an O scale cab and stuck it on an HO locomotive. When I heard that bachmann was doing an 2-6-6-2 in O scale I was hoping for the same nicely proportioned engine that they had announced for 1:20.3 Oh well.
I agree...it looks too much like an HO scale loco converted to O for me ( sorta like the inside frame 4-4-0)
I really "get" that in the On30 world there is a demand for both small locos and large ones (relatively speaking anyway, they are all pretty darned small)...
But I don't see how making models of one-off, teeny tiny larger locos, like the IF 4-4-0 and the new 2-6-6-2 makes either group happy...IMHO the 4-4-0 was too "big" for the industrial modelers, too "rod engine" for the loggers and too small for the common carrier modelers...sure it was cute and all but it seems (again IMO) that building a more common style narrow gauge, inside frame 4-4-0, along with something like a Heisler would have made more people happy than the IF and OF 4-4-0 that Bachmann made <shrug>
anyway...I think the new 2-6-6-2, while kinda cute and cool, is like a lot of the Bachamnn stuff in the last few years, and falls into the category of neither fish nor fowl... :-\
1234
The look some people are complaining about (like an HO model with an O scale cab) was not uncommon for narrow gauge locos. Not just overseas or exported locos or for gauges less than 3 feet, for example the 3 foot gauge Lawndale 2-8-0.
There is a tendency for some people to equate narrow gauge with the larger 3 foot gauge lines such as Colorado or EBT etc. However these were only part of narrow gauge even in the USA.
ON30 modellers are a diverse lot, modelling a wide range of prototype and freelanced lines. Bachmann can not hope to please everyone. They do seem to be trying to balance their offerings, the 4-6-0 as a larger 3 foot loco, some 30 inch locos for those who want to model 30 inch gauge and so on. True not all that much for Colorado (the 2-6-0 and the railtruck) but other makers have produced Colorado items. Nobody else has made the small and funky that some, including me, like.
Hamish
I like this loco a lot. I have no doubt it will handle 18" radius, which will make it a "must have" for a lot of us. BIG SMILE!
Lotta grumbling and complaining but this is a model of a REAL 30" gauge engine. Small boiler, big cab just like the 4-4-0. Ads a lot of character. Only problem I have is when can I get one?
locoron
I must say that when I first saw the 2-6-6-2 last week, I thought it looked rather odd, with a boiler that appeared too "skinny" to match the rest of the loco. Since the Forneys were released a couple of years ago, I decided to concentrate my On30 attentions only on stuff that looked more or less like the Maine 2' prototypes. However, the more I look at the photos and drawings of the prototype and the model, I find that this loco seems to be growing on me. I'm even beginning think I may just need a 2-6-6-2 to pull some of the log cars that I purchased when they were first released a few years ago. I'm afraid that by the time the articulateds actually arrive, I may be anxiously awaiting them as much as others on the list (so much for self control!).
Bill
to my opinion the 2-6-6-2 is an intelligent choice by Bachmann:
1.: An articulated has long been asked for. The only engine longer on the wishlist is the Heisler.
2.: An articulated rod model will not suffer from technical issues with model gear.
3.: It has a 30 inch prototype, which has the potential to please a lot of non-american narrow gauge modelers as well.
4.: It avoids to p. o. those, who already kitbashed the Mantua H0 logger into a 0n30 tank engine (Thanks to Backwoods Miniatures for their excellent kit.).
5.: Size is a fair compromise between Colorado "main line" steam and tiny industrial locos. For many industrial modelers (like me) the 4-6-0 is very big. But we did not complain, but felt happy with the common carrier modellers for getting such a nice engine. So, please don't worry about Bachmann serving the other end of the 0n30 range this time.
Hurray: It will be available with (hopefully proper) Mallet sound from start on!
Waiting for the 2-6-6-2 to arrive and still hoping for a Heisler
Dieter
Does anyone know if this loco is going to be built with a metal cab & boiler like the rest of the on30 Spectrum steamers? The Bachmann catalog doesn't say, so I'm assuming it is going to be plastic.
Dear all,
to me - the 2-6-6-2 is a well-chosen model by Bachmann. It´s accurate and imagine, such a articulated engine could have been found on logging lines in the States too.
I had done a very similar looking model from a Mantua with a Bachmann Mogul tender beeing narrowed and shortened. Not having this loco in mind, I ended up with a very similar model - having the Banta cab.
I´m too, like a certain lot of you, waiting for a Heisler to come.
But first let me say: WELL DONE BACHMANN !!!
Welcome 2-6-6-2 to the world of 0n30 tracks...
Cheers, Tom :) :) :)
I would like to second the motion that the "The Bach Man" has outdone himself on this one!! I have been riding the fence as to wether I would model again as I have not been happy with the choices available over the past few years, but this one has definitely made my mind up! I have the erection prints for the Ingenio Angelina #4 and this model appears to be right on!! All you sugar cane modelers should rejoice, it may not be Hawaii, but the Dominican Republic was huge in Sugar Cane and this engine was right in the middle of it!! I will take two please!!
Please pardon the pun, but if Bachmann were to release some double truck sugar cane cars like those seen on the "La Zafra" On30 display layout, to pull behind the new 2-6-6-2 (and also the O.F. 2-8-0), it surely would be "sweet"!