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#496
Well, with some scissors and some super glue, you might be able to mutilate plastic wheels from Life-Like(or similar) into what you want. But that would be the last resort option.
#497
General Discussion / Re: grand catalog
June 01, 2007, 12:12:24 PM
There used to be a site with a lot of this information, but its down for some reason or another.
#498
General Discussion / Re: Most-historical railroad
June 01, 2007, 11:56:47 AM
What ever to GG-1 #4876 that they are supposed to own? It was sitting vandalized in a CSX yard as recently as a few years ago, but I've heard rumors that it's been moved. I hope it has- 4876 was the one that crashed into Washingto Union Sation in 1953.
#499
HO / Re: K4 headlight relocation
May 31, 2007, 12:33:30 PM
At some point (I can't remember the date, I think it was the 30's or 40's), the Pennsylvania moved the "misplaced" headlights on the Lines West K4's.
#500
Are any of these new lines going to be electrified? I know at least some are already.
#501
General Discussion / Re: Last Southern Crescent
May 29, 2007, 02:56:38 PM
Well, there's a Heritage Fleet diner on that train somewhere, so not all is lost. Ironically enough, we can thank Carter and Reagan's budget cuts for that.
#502
General Discussion / Re: Most-historical railroad
May 29, 2007, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: SteamGene on May 28, 2007, 09:41:03 PM
But the PC was a different railroad, right? 
Gene

To quote Alfred Perlman, head of the New York Central and president of the Penn Central until he was forced out by Stuart Saunders and David Bevan (both ex-Pensylvania), "To me, it was not a merger, it was a takeover, quite frankly." The Pennsylvania ran the show until June of 1970, when Paul Gorman, Perlman's replacement (originally from AT&T), allied with the Board to sieze power from Saunders and Bevan in a desparate attempt to win the confidence of bankers. The fact was, for most of the two years that acually mattered (the non-bankrupt ones), the Penn Central was just the Pennsylvania Railroad with a different name. But aren't we getting off the topic by now?
#503
HO / Re: solder or not
May 28, 2007, 09:02:28 PM
Well, since no one has offered any rebuttal at all, I may as well do a few. First, it is easier to not solder, then decide to solder later, then vice-versa. Second, you could (theoretically) sustain seriuos injuries soldering. Not so with rail joints. Third of all, prototypicality. Do railroads, even railroads as wealthy as the Chesapeake & Ohio waste money installing continuous welded rail in minor sidings and branch lines? From the sound of your layout, there are going to be at least a few of these. Just so you can't claim there were no rebuttals...
#504
General Discussion / Re: Most-historical railroad
May 28, 2007, 05:54:13 PM
Quote from: SteamGene on May 28, 2007, 07:37:40 AM
There is one major difference between the PC and the Road.  What CQ describes with the Road is the situation at the end of its long history.  But that's the entire history of the PC, if I remember its very short history.  The comparison is like comparing an excellent novel with an awful ending to a poorly written short story.
Gene

Very true, yet much of Penn Central's problelms were inherited from the Pennsylvaina and the Central. Both railroads had huge debts and deteriated trackage, along with inept management and questionable operating methods, all of which carried over to PC. So you could say that PC was just the continuation of the awful ending of the excellent novel.
#505
HO / Re: ideas wanted
May 27, 2007, 10:30:47 PM
You could put in a giant factory, which would by the employer for the town. I think Walthers is re-releasing one of their giant factories(A power plant, I think it was). Or, you could make it into a quiet, serene park. Or, you could put in a scrapper's yard, where your excess cars and locos could go when you're finished canabalizing them. Or, if you are thinking about the future, you could make it into a huge parking lot, in preparation for the big-box chain that is fated to move into town 70 years later...
#506
General Discussion / Re: Why Bachmann? (poll?)
May 27, 2007, 10:17:36 PM
For some things, like the E33, I have to choose Bachmann by default. But for other things, Bachmann is my first choice because of the excellent warranty and the reliablitity.  Simply put, I've never met an engine more reliable than my Bachmann F40PH(Even if I cannot understand why they put in strobe lights).
#507
General Discussion / Re: Most-historical railroad
May 27, 2007, 10:10:46 PM
Quote from: Woody Elmore on May 27, 2007, 09:35:23 AM
You cannot compare the Milwaukee Road to the very sad PC.

Yes, I can. That they both went bankrupt is the most obvious comparison. They also had some of the world's worst management. There was also extremely bad luck; Penn Central's '69 blizzard: the Milwaukee's '73 oil embargo. There was some shady management issues(PC's Penphil and EJA, MILW's mysterious expense doubler), and a lot of excess trackage which could not be gotten rid of. And for that matter, they both "saved money" by deffering maintenance, a strategy which came back to haunt them. PC's failed diversification program is directly comparable to MILW's boxcar-leasing. There was also the MILW's policy of parking any equipment requiring more than $5K worth of repairs, just like PC's idea that few locomitives in the shops was a good thing, and trains frequently ran with dead locomotives so they wouldn't be in the shops. And then of course, was their worship of merger. They both thought merger would magically solve all their problelms, and both killed themselves believing in this.
#508
General Discussion / Re: Most-historical railroad
May 26, 2007, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: Woody Elmore on May 26, 2007, 10:34:34 AM
Historically I believe the Camden and Amboy was first RR in the country. It may have been swallowed up by the B&O, which by all acounts, is the first railroad with any history to it.

The C&A was taken by the PRR as part of its plan to reach New York.

Quote from: Woody Elmore on May 26, 2007, 10:34:34 AM

How about "Most Hysterical" - I nominate Penn Central.

I nominate the Milwaukee as runner-up.
#509
HO / Re: what road names do you model
May 26, 2007, 07:32:29 PM
I have a freelanced northeast corridor pseudo-layout with Amtrak, Conrail, Penn Central, and one lost Norfolk and Western E33(It was a great price!) I've also contemplated putting in a modified Pittsurgh PCC car (They were the first trains I ever rode on), but it's ended up in the same fanciful coner of my mind as kitbashing a Milwaukee Road electric.
#510
General Discussion / Re: Most-historical railroad
May 24, 2007, 05:44:34 PM
"Most Historical" is vauge at best. You say the Kansas City Southern or Florida East Coast since they have not been swallowed up by the mega-railroads. Or you could say the New York Central or New Haven, since both of them have survived mostly intact under Conrail and Metro-North/Amtrak, respectively. Or you could say the Richmond, Fredericksburg, and Potomac, since it still is used for its intended purpose "linking north and south"(Which is more than one could say of the PRR). Or you could say the PRR, since so much of its equipment is preserved...In short, one could think of a way to define their railroad as "Most Historical"(except perhaps the Milwaukee Road :'().