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1  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: 55n3 Reboot -Proof of Concept on: Today at 04:47:24 PM
Feeling in the mood to think about building a 55n3 layout, I re-examined PECO 0-16.5(On30). Love PECO track, sturdy, robust and available. Something for the ham-handed.



How close is PECO track to 55n3, the ties are 8 inches wide x 6 feet long on 26 inch centers?

The D&RGW had these specs:

"The ties have a cross section of (HxW) of 6"x8" (15.25cm x 20.32cm), regular ties have a length of 6' "

"It seems that 30' long sections of rail were most common, 16 ties were used for such a section, resulting in a distance of 22 1⁄2″ from mid of tie till mid of tie. For 33' long sections of rail a distance of 22" and for 39' long sections of rail a distance of 21 1⁄4″ had been defined."

The Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette Nov/Dec 89 had an article on track and the PECO track fell within many railroads parameters.



Even got some figures painted.

Harold
2  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: Build an Sn3.5 1870s 4-4-0 on: September 18, 2018, 01:43:09 PM
Got my cab from Shapeways. Did the cab as a basic shape to see what could be done initially.









Came out really well.

Also got some figures from Modelu in the UK, he is on the left, very nice.



Harold
3  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: Build an Sn3.5 1870s 4-4-0 on: September 05, 2018, 04:49:18 PM
Spent the day creating a 3d cab:



Should have it in about two weeks from Shapeways.

Geez, that was easy.

Harold
4  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: Build an Sn3.5 1870s 4-4-0 on: August 29, 2018, 10:21:33 AM
How does it stack up against another Sn3.5 locomotive?

Found my "HO" Ken Kidder mogul that I got as a kid for Christmas, now a basket case. It is a larger "next gen" 1880's loco.



Yeah, it is an Sn3.5 Japanese 7100 class locomotive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JGR_Class_7100



Harold
5  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Build an Sn3.5 1870s 4-4-0 on: August 28, 2018, 01:01:30 PM
Have a "what-I-did" delving into the conversion of a new tooling oldtime H0 Bachmann 4-4-0 into an early Sn3.5 4-4-0.

http://www.chainsawjunction.com/sn3_5/locomotives/4-4-0/



Later web articles will detail and paint the loco.

Just in primer now as we need to build some cars and plan some layout.

Thank you if you visit
Harold
6  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: 1870s California in Sn3.5 - Reboot on: August 26, 2018, 03:16:54 PM
The difference between HO and S scale narrow gauge isn't that much.

An S scale plan over an HO Labelle 34' car



Going the other way the Bachmann On30 boxcar based on the OR&W box can be used for S Scale standard gauge.

Harold
7  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: 1870s California in Sn3.5 - Reboot on: August 26, 2018, 02:44:47 PM
Got my conversion of an HO Bachmann 4-4-0 to an Sn3.5 1870's 4-4-0 to a point where the loco is running.



The gondolas need new trucks and decking.

Harold
8  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: 1870s California in Sn3.5 - Reboot on: August 19, 2018, 08:06:38 PM
1870's narrow gauge equipment is very small, basically HO size in 1/64 scale.



The HO cars being used in S Scale just happen to be the right size or need slight reworking to be S scale.

If HO scale was used to depict early narrow gauge the equipment would be too small to function well.

Everything is S scale. As I have said "there is no HO scale, O scale, S scale or any scale, only what an object measures".

The old "HO" Ken Kidder mogul was actually a Japanese 3'-6" gauge S scale locomotive, the opposite of what I am doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JGR_Class_7100

Harold

9  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / 1870s California in Sn3.5 - Reboot on: August 19, 2018, 11:20:19 AM
Ended this idea back in 2008. The lack of available easily made motive power and other supplies caused me to abandon the project.

With the availability of new items and information we are developing some new stuff.









Visit our new website:

http://www.chainsawjunction.com/sn3_5/

Rubber gauging is fun.

Thank you if you visit
Harold
10  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: 55n3 Reboot -Proof of Concept on: August 17, 2018, 09:33:02 AM
The hardest part about an off-scale is determining if an object is the right size.

Found this site with cars and trucks listed at 1/64. They sell this paper model garage. I took the  picture of the garage and scaled the photo to 1/55 using a figure height of 30mm.



Looked like the cars would work in Scale55. Ordered one. Upon receiving the kit the car looked small but placing the parts on a set of scaled plans the car was Scale55.



Love scrounging for stuff, that is what makes odd scale modeling so much fun

Harold
11  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: 55n3 Reboot -Proof of Concept on: August 09, 2018, 10:52:48 AM
My original intent with 55n3 was to build 1870s three foot narrow gauge. Then someone asked if On30 Bachmann equipment could be used for 55n3 and got diverted to that tangent.

Scale55 is the only scale that early three foot narrow gauge works easily. Being HO  gauge the use of HO mechanisms and locomotives come into play.

The MDC/Athearn 2-6-0 is a good fit for 55n3. The straight boiler is typical of early D&RG locomotives. New smaller drivers are available from UK suppliers.



Wondered if my stockpile of IHC/Rivarossi 4-4-0 could be used as 55n3.

Found a early porter drawing and compared. Yipes! We have a seminal 4-4-0.  Sound can be added like my HO Bachmann
4-4-0 upgrade.





The PBL Sn3 cars are a close match to the Ohio River and Western Box and other early narrow gauge boxes.  The Sn3 cars are more about the gondolas and cattle cars.

Making gons is very labor intensive compared with house cars.





The trucks can be regauged easily.



Now your question will be "Why not just Sn3?", because Sn3 and the other scales don't have motive power for 1870's narrow gauge.

Harold
12  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: 55n3 Reboot -Proof of Concept on: August 07, 2018, 10:51:33 AM
Looking at the S Scale American Models hopper in the earlier post, the question becomes:

What about a EBT Mikado?

The old BLI On30 C-16 has an almost right mechanism, boiler dia and tender.  Bowser HO 69" drivers at 44" are close to the 48" prototype. The axles are .125 on the Bowser and the BLI are .109 but that is an easy fix. The BLI has separate bearings.

Not quite a match but close.



Harold
13  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: 55n3 Reboot -Proof of Concept on: August 07, 2018, 08:57:51 AM
The American Models S Scale Rib Side hopper scales 8ft wide x 28ft-6in in Scale55.

The Myner trucks fit just right. The American Model trucks can be regauged.





The mogul is close to the EBT moguls.

Brian Budeit's excellent HO model





Harold
14  Discussion Boards / On30 / Re: NEW Updated Bachmann On30 Mogul with Factory Sound Video on: August 03, 2018, 11:36:11 PM
What does narrow gauge steam sound like? Go to the 3:55 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MnDBhzMc7Q&feature=youtu.be

Harold
15  Discussion Boards / On30 / NEW Updated Bachmann On30 Mogul with Factory Sound Video on: August 02, 2018, 04:58:47 PM
Have a video of the updated On30 Bachmann Mogul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REwPeD9ELm8&feature=youtu.be

Am sure the question is "Is the updated version worth the price?"

Having done the conversion on an analog, price-wise:

 
Quote
All prices with shipping

Street Price of Update with sound $298.85  

Street price Analog Mogul $100.90

Connectors $6

Phosphor bronze sheet $6

Speakers $12

Tsunami 2 Total:    $108.81

Miscellaneous $15

Total $245.71

http://www.pacificcoastairlinerr.com/mogul_tsunami/

Worth the $50 for sound, having done the conversion, yeah.

Harold
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