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976  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: A few Bachmann bashes... on: March 01, 2007, 10:15:38 AM

I don't have much in the way of "unpainted" photos of the process, but here's a description of what I did to the wood ore cars:

Wasn't a whole lot to it--just filling the holes where I removed the original grab irons, adding the wood side extensions, and lowering the car a touch.


977  Discussion Boards / Large / A few Bachmann bashes... on: March 01, 2007, 03:22:27 AM
Okay, they didn't stay unchanged for long... I got the new B'mann hopper and two flat cars, and it wasn't long before they underwent some minor surgery.

The Hopper:

Out of the box, the hopper's a good model of the EBT's 2-bay ganister rock hoppers which they built in the 1930s. There are some quirky details that aren't "quite right," though, so I set about to correct them. The biggest was the lack of any kind of detailing on the underside of the hopper, and the incorrect air brake rigging.

This was remedied with some styrene, and a bit of brass rod and other bits to rework the brake plumbing. Curiously, some of these details were included on the 1:22 hopper, but not on this one.  Huh?

The car comes unnumbered, so I applied some dry-transfer numbers to the side. A little light weathering completes the car. I also added the air line that ran along the outside edge of the hopper.

I used the archbar trucks from the flat car to put under the hopper. The stock trucks are quite accurate for the 1930s hopper modeled, but not the original 2-bay hoppers that the EBT purchased from the Pressed Steel Car Co. in 1913. Since I model 1913, swapping the trucks seemed appropriate. (The other trucks are slated for another project.)

More of the hopper conversion can be found here:

The Flats

Both of these cars started life as a Bachmann flat car.

The first off the workbench was the gondola, patterned after an EBT gondola.

No good photos of the EBT's gondolas have come to light, so this is more conjectural than prototypic. (though gondola #78 was 30' long)

In 1913, the EBT had not applied air brakes to most of its fleet, so the air brake detail was removed from the underside.

The deck was painted with Folk Art "Barnwood" acrylic paint, and the gondola stakes cut to fit in the stake pockets.

The deck was washed with dilute black paint to give the deck a weathered look. The wood sides of the gondola were also washed, and matched surprisingly well. I wasn't expecting such a close match, but I'll take luck when I can.

The second flat car got an identical treatment in terms of backdating the brake gear and moving the brake staff to match EBT practice.

For this one, I added "end gates" which the EBT used on a handful of flat cars for pulpwood and other timber commodities.

I wanted this car to look a bit older and worn, so I weathered it a bit more, drybrushing some of the barnwood paint on the sides of the car and sanding off some of the lettering prior to washing the car with dilute black paint.

The trucks on both of these cars are Delton/Aristo-Craft archbar trucks.

More on these cars can be found here:
Gondola -
Flat -


978  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: This is an experiment/test on: February 24, 2007, 11:52:10 PM

Get yourself a SuperMouse for your Mac. You'll never go back. Left, right, center, and side buttons, not to mention up/down and left/right scrolling with the thumbwheel. It's optimized with OS 10.4, but all but the two side buttons work with 10.3. My wife got tired of me stealing the one from her G5, so she bought me a Wacom graphics tablet with a 3-button mouse. Since I'm using 10.3, that's all the functionality I can use anyway.


979  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: Diameter Curve Question on: February 20, 2007, 03:38:24 PM
The 2-8-0 can fit around a 5' diameter curve, but you need to use the furthest hole on the drawbar. I can't remember if you need to modify the coal pile on the front of the tender or not... TOC will likely chime in shortly with the definitive answer.


980  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: product questions on: February 20, 2007, 03:36:20 PM
There IS a large scale EBT Mike coming from Rich Yoder models...

Yep, there is. Yours for $3,000. Not in my budget at the moment, so I continue to apply subtle pressure for an inexpensive plastic version.


981  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: Product Suggestion: Disneyland / Disney World Railroad on: February 11, 2007, 11:17:23 AM
Don't forget that Hartland and Accucraft have also done some of the Disney locos as well.

There's also a big difference between a company producing a model of an actual Disney loco vs. painting their most ubiquitous locomotive in a Disney-esque paint scheme. (Not unlike the difference between a proper Bumblebee C-16 and a 4-6-0 painted in the same colors--no offense, Bachmann.)


982  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: Painting cars etc on: February 10, 2007, 03:12:04 AM
My problem with the "cheap" Wal-Mart (etc.) paints is that they don't cover. As someone once told me,
"If you love to paint, buy Sears paint. If you hate to paint, buy something that works instead." I've had very good results with Krylon and Valspar's "American Traditions" paints--I use them for everything that needs spraying.

I don't know of a written tutorial on painting techniques beyond what has appeared in various magazines. Most modeling books don't cover using spray cans, but if you insert "spray can" for "air brush," the techniques are very similar. Of course, brush painting by hand is the same for any scale--though much easier to do in large scale.

For example, this car is mostly painted by hand, though a hit the underside with flat black (not that it's visible). This is the Bachmann flat car that I turned into a gondola.

This car was done with a spray can (American Traditions' brown primer). The effects are virtually identical.


983  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: New 1.20 trucks on: February 05, 2007, 02:45:13 AM
I'll bet $2.00 and a brick watch that no one can pick a car out of a consist that has a axle set with a wheel that wobbles.

For the most part, I agree wholeheartedly--which is why it's not high on my list of worries. On the other hand, I have an off-kilter wheel on my combine that gives it ever so gentle a sway back and forth. If you've ever watched an EBT train rolling down the track, the effect is quite prototypic. (And if you haven't, think of a rowboat on 20' swells.)

Still, it doesn't change the fact that a quick spin test would eliminate the perception of poor quality, regardless of how it actually effects the operation of the model. A little positive PR goes a long way. (Call it "spin" control.)


984  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: New 1.20 trucks on: February 04, 2007, 02:13:57 PM
Unfortunately, the Spectrum wheels still are occasionally wobbly. I've got one wheel on each of my two cars that's off-kilter. It's not enough for me to worry about, but would it be too much to ask of the folks assembling the trucks to give each axle a spin test?  Huh?


985  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: New Board! on: February 04, 2007, 02:10:15 AM
Fixed it, Bruce. Thanks for tellin' me.


986  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: New Board! on: February 03, 2007, 01:51:37 PM
Tinibert, check the current GR for Rich Yoder Models. He's doing a brass model of the EBT's mikados. There are a few of us who have been relentless (to put it politely) in our efforts to have Bachmann produce one in plastic. It's become somewhat of a running joke between a few of us here.

As for the grass-eating train, perhaps a "yard goat?"



("Yard goat" is slang for a switching locomotive.)
987  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: New 1.20 trucks on: February 03, 2007, 01:41:05 PM
I second the motion for selling the trucks individually. I swapped the Vulcan trucks for archbar trucks under my hopper, too, and am going to use the hopper's trucks under a box car. I'll want to swap future hoppers as I get them in the future, and unless I can find a willing trade partner, I'll have to buy a flat car for each hopper just to use the trucks.


988  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: New Board! on: February 03, 2007, 03:49:16 AM
Glad to see the change, too. Now, let's see if my profile info got entered properly...

"Preview" and "Edit," too.

Now, about that EBT mikado...


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