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91  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: 1/20.3 K-27 on: September 01, 2007, 11:40:39 AM
, Is that true? I do not think that Uintah or SV had outside frame Mikado locomotives. Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi

Zubi, it most certainly is true!  It was Uintah #40, and it was used on one end of the line, it wouldn't make it through the curves on Baxter Pass.  (Obviously wasn't built for a 4foot diameter curve!  Cheesy)  I'm pretty sure it was scrapped when the line went out of business, and I'm not sure how it compares in size with a K-27, but I'll look up the specs and see.

Hey, Bach Man?  How about a 1:20.3 2-6-6-2T Uintah Rwy articulated?


Robert, Thanks for the note. I do not have the Uintah books here in Tokyo so I am only referring to my memory. Well, the #40 does not look like outside frame in this photo; But the #30 in this sale flyer looks certainly more like it. Still, I think there are considerable differences between this and the D&RGW K27s but I have no precise data to compare. The 2-6-6-2 articulates are most fabulos locomotives, but I think that the right company to release them in foreseable time is Accucraft. And hopefully these will be live steam 2-6-6-2's!! Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi
92  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: K-27 Rio Grande on: August 31, 2007, 07:25:33 AM

I've been in model RRing for nearly 60 years and in LS model RRing since the early 1980s (well more than 20 years). I, like most of the modelers I know, have always worked to be reasonably precise in our model RRing language, as well as our speech and writing in general. If we are going to be able to have meaningful discussions, then we need to recognize that items like scale, gauge, dimensions, grades, colors, etc. have specific words to describe them. A brown boxcar isn't called 'Green' just because someone likes, or first learned, the letter "G".

I'm certain there are some folks who just don't care if they communicate clearly. They of course can call it anything they want without anyone's permission or correction. By doing so, they just show their lack of knowledge and understanding.

To educated folks, 'things' have specific words and symbols to describe them. That's how we communicate with each other. Those are the folks I respect and want to deal with.

I too hope the K27 will do well, but it still isn't ". . . G scale . . .".

Happy RRing,

Jerry Bowers

Jerry, In that case you have been in the hobby for long enough to know better;-)...
Also, communication is about optimising information transfer not about accuracy of
a measurement. Most folks know what *size and gauge* G-scale stands for while
not so many know what the F-letter is supposed to represent - and who can
blame them... If I want to be precise, I refer to the scale representing 3feet as
45mm as 15mm scale and this is about the highest accuracy possible since unlike
F it carries both the meaning (the precise recipe how the scale is obtained) and
no error (unlike F or 1:20.3). So to me this K-27 is still G-scale if I want to be clear to
the general public. Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi PS aren't these scale wars fun;-)?
93  Discussion Boards / General Discussion / Re: K-27 Rio Grande on: August 31, 2007, 03:31:00 AM
Jerry, for all of us who have been playing with G-trains for more than a decade it is and will remain G-scale, Generic, Gross;-) and Good for the Garden! Hopefully, the new Bachmann K-27 will also satisfy those terms and join the large family of G-scale trains. Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi
94  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: 1/20.3 K-27 on: August 31, 2007, 12:16:38 AM

Similar power went all over the world, Columbia, Central America and so on. Don't forget the Sumpter Valley and Uintah which had similar  locomotives.

Japasha, Is that true? I do not think that Uintah or SV had outside frame Mikado locomotives. Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi
95  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: 1/20.3 K-27 on: August 30, 2007, 01:48:32 AM
WOW. Ubelievable. I suppose this will define the new large scale decade to come. I only hope that Bachmann will get the plastic right this time, it would be a big heap of dust if it crumbles after a year;-))) Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi
96  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: Angels Among Us on: June 11, 2007, 01:33:49 AM
Amen, Zubi
97  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: Forney? on: May 18, 2007, 04:04:03 AM
1:19 scale is the most appropriate choice for a Maine Forney, dual gauge 32/45mm and live steam of course;-)) Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi
98  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: G Narrow Gauge on: May 14, 2007, 11:24:26 PM
As you might expect 1:22.5 on 45mm track is very popular in Europe because it represents an accurate scale/guage combination for meter guage which is common in Europe. [..]

Stan, good to 'see' you. Actually, meter gauge is not that common in Europe. 750/760mm is much more common! The same gauge as Bachmann's Consolidation... 1:22.5 is popular because it used to be a standard - unfortunately it was set by a manufacturer who almost never actually used the standard producing models to many different scales. Fortunately, there are now a few companies which start producing finescale models in 1:22.5 and who knows perhaps the LGBoA will raise from the ashes and join the 1:22.5 scale movement succesfully set by Brawa and Kiss, Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi
99  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: G Narrow Gauge on: May 14, 2007, 11:16:40 PM
I have been looking at the G Scale Spectrum Consolidations and noted that they refer to narrow gauge.  What track width in G scale would this be?
Fil, strictly speaking this Consolidation should be running on 27.5mm gauge
track because it is a model of a 30inch prototype, however, Bachmann made
it to run on 45mm standard gauge 1 track which is rather convenient for all
people who do not want to waste time on handlaying track. In narrow gauge
regauging locomotives is a common practice in real life in various parts of the
world and now in model world this is why you will see a  lot of equipment
where scale does not fit gauge - so the manufacturer addapts teh gauge to the
most commonly used one - in this case 45mm gauge 1 or sometimes 23mm
that is gauge 0. Welcome to narrow gauge! Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi

100  Discussion Boards / Large / Re: G Narrow Gauge on: May 14, 2007, 11:10:48 PM
The bachmann spectrum consolidation is:

Fn3 scale.
runs on 45mm track.
narrow gauge (3-foot gauge)
large scale.

It is *not* G scale.

Scot, it is as G as it can be in Goofy scale Grin'!!
Bachmann's Consolidation is a 30inch gauge proototype and
should be in 18mm to the foot scale (1:16.7) to run on 45 mm
track not in 15mm scale as it is was produced.
Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi

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