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trainguy111

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« on: April 11, 2010, 02:40:52 PM »

Dear Mr. Bachmann,

I love your Gn3/Fn3 scale products, but I think there are some other G-related scales you should try.

First off, there is Gauge 3, which represents standard gauge prototypes usually in 1:22.5 scale. Thus, they run on 64 mm wide track.

And there is also Gn15, which is G scale running on HO scale track representing 15 inch gauge.

I hope you consider these gauges. Thanks.
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Barry BBT

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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2010, 07:14:58 PM »

Gauge 3 has been dead for a few years, but seemingly replaced by 20.3 Std Ga.  2.75" ga.

Also 7/8N2, much alive and very interesting (on 45mm ga.).

!/24 scale on 45mm is 42" gauge, currently alive and well in Oz (Aust.).

Barry - BBT
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trainguy111

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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2010, 06:50:07 PM »

And Here are just a few good examples for Gn15 prototypes. Note: Gauges between 14 and 18 inches are ideal.

http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=6430
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=6428
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=6429
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=6427
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=5436
http://www.discoverlivesteam.com/forsale/1_grand_mallet/index.htm
http://www.dochemp.com/bigtrains.html
http://www.littletootrailroad.com/
http://michiganausablevalleyrailroad.com/locomotives.html
http://www.nworrp.org/livesteam.htm
http://www.timfloodrr.com/Motive%20Power.html
http://www.phoenixandholly.com/
http://home.centurytel.net/wrr-fred/whiskey_river_railway001.htm
http://www.bctrains.com/index.htm
http://heritagetrainandcarousel.weebly.com/
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vic


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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2010, 08:07:06 PM »

Gauge 3 has been dead for a few years, but seemingly replaced by 20.3 Std Ga.  2.75" ga.

Also 7/8N2, much alive and very interesting (on 45mm ga.).

!/24 scale on 45mm is 42" gauge, currently alive and well in Oz (Aust.).

Barry - BBT



Hi Barry, actually Gauge 3 is alive and well ... in Britain, almost entirely live steam but then Gauge 3 almost exclusively always has been

www.gauge3.co.uk/

Actually Thomas and Percy would be good candidates for gauge 3 conversion

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Barry BBT

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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2010, 01:34:16 AM »

Vic,

Good points, no arguement.  But what I was trying to get to was that 20.3 NG is 3 ft gauge and correspondingly there is 20.3 std ga.  Both U.S. 

Gauge 3 is std ga for 22.5 meter gauge (on 45 mm track).

Barry
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trainguy111

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2010, 10:19:38 PM »

And here are some excellent ideas for Gauge 3.

http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1315
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=685
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=668
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=672
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=634
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1474
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1015
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=492
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=503
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=709
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=716
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1745
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1358
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1083
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1034
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1069
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1096
http://steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1102
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2010, 01:54:30 AM »

Vic,

Good points, no arguement.  But what I was trying to get to was that 20.3 NG is 3 ft gauge and correspondingly there is 20.3 std ga.  Both U.S. 

Gauge 3 is std ga for 22.5 meter gauge (on 45 mm track).

Barry

Standard gauge on 45mm is Gauge 1, at 1/32 scale where Gauge 3 is larger 1/22.5 scale standard gauge but its on 63.5mm or 2-1/2 inch gauge track, its wide track, actually wider than American 3 rail tinplate "Standard Gauge" which is 2-1/4 inch gauge. The only reason I know all this is that I have been very interested in Gauge 3 since my Thomas "Percy" arrived. It really is a good candidate for conversion to Gauge 3 due to its size.  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2010, 07:54:19 PM »

Aren't Big Haulers 1:22.5?
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Barry BBT

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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2010, 01:26:37 AM »

Yes, Paul.

When Bachmann designed and started the Big Haulers, LGB owned the market.  It was only natural to follow what was selling.  But soon learned that 22.5 is based upon meter gauge track (where LGB is from).

If the big hauler was being developed today, it would be 20.3.  The prototype Big Hauler is the 4-6-0s on E. T. & W. N. C.
Railroad.  Which is a 3 ft narrow gauge railroad.  And a very interesting one also.

Barry - BBT
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trainguy111

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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2010, 08:13:51 AM »

Gauge 3 has been dead for a few years, but seemingly replaced by 20.3 Std Ga.  2.75" ga.

Also 7/8N2, much alive and very interesting (on 45mm ga.).

!/24 scale on 45mm is 42" gauge, currently alive and well in Oz (Aust.).

Barry - BBT



Hi Barry, actually Gauge 3 is alive and well ... in Britain, almost entirely live steam but then Gauge 3 almost exclusively always has been

www.gauge3.co.uk/

Actually Thomas and Percy would be good candidates for gauge 3 conversion



You can convert some engines to gauge 3? I guess I'll do that if i get Casey Junior by Accucraft and/or Ivor by Locolines.
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trainguy111

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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2010, 06:38:38 PM »

More great ideas for Gauge 3/G64 or any other g scale standard gauge!

http://www.drgw.net/gallery/DRGW01/drgw_01_saltlakecity_ut_1938_000
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/nh140.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/ir_box.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/nycX6771.jpg
http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00015336+OP-15336
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/nyc1904.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/dlw9s.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/np1.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/sl45.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/prr8542s.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/sp571.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/porter/page43a.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/jmi.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/mblc3.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/nyc1298.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/ba303.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/nyc9501.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/emd/gmd275ast.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/fcM55-1.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/lv17.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/ri3552.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cbq360.jpg
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/rdg_black_diamond.jpg
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zubi


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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2010, 08:56:43 PM »

Gauge 3 has been dead for a few years, but seemingly replaced by 20.3 Std Ga.  2.75" ga.

Also 7/8N2, much alive and very interesting (on 45mm ga.).

!/24 scale on 45mm is 42" gauge, currently alive and well in Oz (Aust.).

Barry - BBT

Mr Barry-BBT, Gauge 3 is alive and well in civilized places such as UK and Germany. It is not and will never be replaced by absurd gauge concepts. Best wishes, Zubi
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