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Dusterdave

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« on: April 03, 2018, 07:25:32 PM »

I recently purchased a 3 truck Shay item#82498. I am new to this. I have not lubricated yet so can not run. Does this have sound? Also it states it is DCC ready. What do I need to convert to DCC?
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Loco Bill Canelos

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2018, 10:17:19 PM »

Hi Dave,

Your shay is DCC ready, meaning that you would have to install a DCC receiver.  It does not have sound, but aftermarket sound can be added.

Loco Bill
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Dusterdave

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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2018, 07:57:49 AM »

Thanks Bill. I知 assuming a dcc receiver is the same as a decoder. Is this a plug and play? If I add sound,is that also plug and play? I知 seeing online people tearing units apart to add dcc and sound and hoping that is not necessary. Thanks again, Dave
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2018, 09:20:08 AM »

Hi Dave,

Decoder is the correct term, I used receiver because I use battery power and the Revolution radio control system rather than DCC.  I believe the decoder is plug and play, the sound is not plug and play and would have to be wired in separately. It is not all that difficult to add sound.  I added Phoenix sound to mine about 10 years ago. There are other brands of sound systems available now that were not when I put mine in.

Having gone to Battery/rc, I am not up to speed on DCC so hopefully Kevin Strong, or Stan Ames  will see this and give a better response than I can.  They are experts on DCC.  Kevin is also very knowledgeable about some of the newer sound systems.

Bill
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Dusterdave

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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2018, 04:03:04 PM »

Bill, thanks for the info.
 Hopefully Stan and Kevin will see this and give me some advice. You have set me on the right path.
Dave
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StanAmes


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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2018, 06:05:35 PM »

Do you have the instruction packet that came with the 3 truck shay?

If not they are online

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/dwg/dwgs/82494.pdf

The instructions show how to install the Bachmann/Soundtraxx decoder.  You can use the same instructions as a guide to install any other brand of DCC decoder.   The only difference is that you will need to use individual wires rather than the function plug.

Hope that helps

Stan
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Dusterdave

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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2018, 08:03:06 PM »

Thanks Stan,
Do I need 2 decoders-one for sound and one for motion? I知 assuming that the Bachman/Soundtraxx decoder does all functions. Since Soundtraxx eliminated the Econami 4A, I知 guessing the Tsunami is the recommended decoder.
Dave
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Dusterdave

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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2018, 08:21:30 PM »

Okay I think I see what to do now. Wires 1,2,3 and 4 move from the main board to the decoder. There is another plug that is unused on the dc version that plugs into the other side of the decoder. Add a speaker and job done.
That is relatively easy if I知 correct.
Stan, do you recommend the Tsunami?
Thanks, Dave
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StanAmes


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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2018, 07:24:32 AM »

There is a function plug in the locomotive.  In DC mode this set of wires is plugged into to the board in the locomotive.

I DCC mode these wires are connected to the decoder.  2 of these wires are speaker wires.  The speaker is in the 3rd truck.

A single motor/sound decoder is fine and 4+ amp decoder will work.

Hope that helps.

Stan
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Dusterdave

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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2018, 06:28:47 PM »

Thanks Stan and Bill for the help. Sounds like a fairly easy conversion.
Dave
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rdailey1202

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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2018, 04:20:26 PM »

For $60 you can buy the combination DCC Decoder / Soundcard from Bachman parts. It's pretty simple to install. I did this myself with a ebay 55 ton shay I bought.

I installed an airwire converter60 and battery to mine.
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