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Cpaskert

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« on: February 26, 2020, 05:43:51 PM »

I am looking for information about the prototype of the Baldwin 4-6-0 Southern #1087.  There are many listings for a railroad using the name "SOUTHERN" in combination with other names.  I would like to know the actual railroad and time period for this locomotive. I found a  listing for a "COLUMBIA SOUTHERN" railroad in Oregon, but cannot tell is that is the railroad of the prototype.  There was also a "SOUTHERN" railroad in the South that I believe had a terminal at Columbia, SC.
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nfmisso

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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2020, 10:18:13 PM »

Check out http://www.srha.net/   Southern Railway Historical Association
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Cpaskert

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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2020, 11:57:56 AM »

Thank you.  I checked out the site.  I found a wealth of interesting information and photographs relevant to both history and modeling.
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ebtnut

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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2020, 01:45:41 PM »

Here's another site to look at:  http://southern.railfan.net/images/archive/southern/steam/460/460.html
The Southern painted quite a few locos intended for passenger service in the "Apple Green" scheme.  More well-known are the Pacifics and Mountains, but they also had some Ten-Wheelers and Americans done as well.  Pacific No. 1401 is stuffed and mounted in all its green and gold glory within the Smithsonian's American History museum in Washington, DC. 
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Trainman203

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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2020, 02:47:42 PM »

The low boilered 4-6-0 is a Maryland & pennsylvania prototype, typical of ca. 1900 practice modified with outside walschaerts valve gear added at a later date.  It is a typical catalog standard engine bought by many short lines. The Yazoo & Mississippi Valley, later absorbed by the IC, had several almost identical.
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Trainman203

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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2020, 12:10:51 PM »

This is a great website.  All of the engines are interesting but scroll down to the 4-6-0s and you’ll find none that resemble the Bachmann model.

https://hawkinsrails.net/steam/sou/sou_steam.htm
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Cpaskert

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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2020, 07:37:42 PM »

Yes. the hawkinsrails.net, below, is a great site.  I found  a photo of Southern #1092, identifying the locomotive as part of the F-14 CLASS including #'s 1085 to 1112, built from 1911 to 1914, and all retired by 1947.  Further exploration of the site leads to additional technical characteristics of the locomotives in the F-14 CLASS. Highly informative. Thank you. 

The site above, http://southern.railfan.net/images/archive/southern/steam/460/450.htmi   provided by ebtnut, has photos of 11 of the locomotives in the F-14 CLASS including #1087, the prototype I have been searching for.  I wonder how and why Bachmann selected that locomotive to model.

https://hawkinsrails.net/steam/sou/sou_steam.htm
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Trainman203

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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2020, 01:02:05 AM »

Ma and Pa engines have been popular for close to 60 years as prototypes to model, their 2-8-0 and the very same ten wheeler Bachmann chose being offered in brass way back then.  I had one of them. The Bachmann Richmond 4-4-0 is supposedly a Ma and Pa engine too.  I wondered why prototypes from an obscure eastern shortline were chosen until I realized that they all are very close to standard catalog engines of the period, suitable more or less for many other roads.  They all are very nice engines, I have several of each.
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