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kybaugh

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« on: December 24, 2007, 11:34:18 AM »

I'm new to the board and new to the large scale hobby, having just purchased my first Bachmann sets this holiday season. 

I picked up a Northern Lights set at Sams' Club for what appeared to be a steal of a deal at only $117.  Then I found this board and started reading.  Since then I've added a Wonderland Flyer set (#90045, I think) so now I also have an Annie locomotive. 

My question is this.  I often see reference to set ID numbers on Ebay and other online sellers, but for train sets that must be discontinued items.  Is there a master list posted or available somewhere, so a newbie like me can find info on the different sets offered over the years, or for example, if I purchase a caboose from set 90028, can I look up set 90028 and find out what other cars belong to that set?

Sorry to be so long winded.  Thanks in advance for any help.
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Matthew (OV)


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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2007, 01:32:00 PM »

Not speaking out of school, I hope, but if you can't get a master list by number... which I'm guessing would be difficult.... you can ask here about a particular set by name, and there's a large probability that someone will recognize it and speak up!

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kybaugh

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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2007, 02:17:49 PM »

Thanks for the advice.

I am curious about the Christmas or Holiday sets that have been offered over the last few years.

I have noticed references in other threads to the annual Sams' Club sets,  indicating they have been offering limited edition Bachmann sets over the last few years.

This years' set is the Northern Lights and I believe the 2006 set was the 2 in 1 set with the NP&S passenger coachs and trolley car.

Could someone tell me what set was offered in 2005 or 2004?

Newbies like me are always such pests!  All questions and no answers!
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Jon D. Miller

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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2007, 02:35:06 PM »

kybaugh,
This is the Sam's set offered in 2005.



The 2005 set was lettered as North Star Express.



This is the 2004 Sam's set. It was lettered as North Pole & Southern.  This is not a very good picture.  Not shown is a Combine decorated for Christmas.  It was packed at the top of the box and I didn't get it in the picture.

Loco Bill has an extensive list of sets.  He should be able to provide additional, factual information on most sets offered over the years by Bachmann.

JD
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Matthew (OV)


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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2007, 02:40:44 PM »

See how well that works?   Grin

And... if nobody asked questions, those of us who know answers woudn't have any use for them.... so ask away!

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kybaugh

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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2007, 03:17:52 PM »


Thanks so much for all your help folks.  I've been trying to find information on the Holiday sets since I first became aware of them.  I was reluctant to ask on this board - in my limited experience with other message boards - well, I'll just say sometimes people can be a little less than friendly to new people and their simpleton questions.

It looks like the 2004 set might be the same as the current Wonderland Flyer set.

Thanks.
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Jon D. Miller

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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2007, 03:46:27 PM »

kybaugh,
They sure look to be the same.  I've only the pictures to go by.

The 2004 set has a 04 built date on the box car.  In the 2007 catalog it does not show a built date on the box car.  There may well be a built date on this car. Have not seen it in person.

Either way, the 2007 catalog set #90047 is good looking.

JD
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Loco Bill Canelos

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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2007, 06:14:19 PM »

I have a list of all the Christmas Sets, but don't have them with me right now.  I will try to get it online in the next day or two..
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kybaugh

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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2007, 07:03:57 PM »


Thank you Bill. 

I'd sure appreciate it, if it's information you don't mind sharing.
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glennk28

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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2007, 09:09:39 PM »

There are also special sets for particular chains--Sam's Club and Orchard Supply Hardware are two  major ones.  BTW--OSH has great train calendars for those close enough to get to a store--which I am not--someone is getting some for me..
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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2007, 12:00:40 AM »

Dear ky,
Loco Bill has become the listkeeper, and has more info at his fingertips than I do.
Merry Christmas!
the Bach-man
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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2007, 12:48:48 AM »

Hi All,

Here is my best shot,   This is my list of everything I know of that Bachmann made in Large Scale with a Christmas Theme.  It does not include the individual parts of the 2007 Northern Lights listed sepeerately.


It will take pouring through the data to understand the way some things are tied together.    I am not sure how my listing will print out on the forum.   Input wiil be for one line at a time per item, but it often shows up on the forum as a three line entry per item.

I am only human and so there may well be errors,  Please let me know of any errors readers might find, so that I can correct the entries.
90023   WC   Set   1994   ^ Set   White Christmas Express   P   X      $250.00                
90037   NP&S   Set   1999   ^ Set   Night Before Christmas   P   X      $300.00                
90036   PE   Set   2000   ^ Set   The Polar Express   P   X      $380.00                
90044   NP&S   Set   2003   ^ Set   North Pole Special   P   X      $300.00    2005 $365.00            
90047   NP&S   Set   2004   ^ Set   Wonderland Flyer   w/ 10th Anniversary 4-6-0    P   X   Sam's Club Set   $139.95    1st set with Annie Loco, has Walsherts Valve Gear            
90051   NP&S   Set   2005   ^ Set   North Star Express     Wood Burner      X   Sam's Club Set   $139.95    2nd set with Annie Loco, has Stephenson Valve Gear            
90047   NP&S   Set   2006   ^ Set   Wonderland Flyer   w/ 10th Anniversary 4-6-0       X   Boscov's Set   $199.95    Same as Sam's 90047 but Loco has Stephenson Valve Gear            
90054   NP&S   Set   2006   ^ Set   Holiday Special (Train & Trolley) Coal Burner   P   X   Sam's Club Set   $169.86    3rd set with Annie Loco, has Stephenson Valve Gear            
90047   NP&S   Set   2007   ^ Set   Wonderland Flyer   w/ 10th Anniversary 4-6-0       X   Limited Edition   $350.00    Bachmann Catalog Set Same as Boscov's set            
90061   NP&S   Set   2007   ^ Set   Northern Lights with LED's      X   Sam's Club Set   $149.95    Set for 2007            
90102   HE   Set   1990?   ^ Set   Holiday Express RC    P   X   27 mhz   $120.00           1990      
90102 F   HE   Set   1990?   ^ Set   Holiday Express  RC 49 mhz   P   X   Frank's Nursery   $100.00    Sold only at Frank's Nursery Stores      1990      
    NP&S   25   1995   ~ Loco   4-6-0, North Pole & Southern   P   X   Set  only   Set Loco   Set 90023            
    NP&S   12   1997   ~ Loco   4-6-0, North Pole & Southern   P   X   Set only   Set Loco   Set 90037            
91   PE   1001   2000   ~ Loco   4-6-0, Polar Express   P   X   only in set   $140.00    Set 90036            
    NP&S   1225   2004   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10th aniv, North Pole & Southern Ver 5   P   X   Sam's Club Set   Set Loco   Sold only in Set 90047   Wonderland Flyer Walshearts Valve Gear         
   NP&S   205   2005   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10th aniv, North Pole & Southern Ver 5      X   Sam's Club Set   Set Loco   Sold only in Set 90051   North Star Express         
   NP&S   12   2006   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10th aniv, North Pole & Southern Ver 5      X   Sam's Club Set   Set Loco   Sold only in Set 90054   Holiday Special         
   NP&S   1225   2006   ~ Loco   4-6-0, 10th aniv, North Pole & Southern Ver 5      X   Boscov's Set   Set Loco   Sold only in Boscov's Set 90047      Wonderland Flyer Stephenson Valve Gear      
93340   NP&S   30647   2001   Box Car   North Pole & Southern    P   X   Blt 6-97   $40.00    first into as a separate item            
93340   NP&S   30647   2003   Box Car   North Pole & Southern        X   Blt 6-03   Set Car    Set 90044            
93340   NP&S   30647   2004   Box Car   North Pole & Southern    P   X   Blt 6-04   Set Car    Set Wonderland flyer            
93800   NP&S   none   2005   Caboose   8 whl, North Star Express      X   metal wheels   Set Car    Only in Set 90051            
93100   None   None   1995   Caboose4   4 whl, Santa in Sleigh w reindeer       X      Set Car     Set 90023 and seperately            
93140   NP&S   None   1997   Caboose4   4 whl, North Pole & Southern   p   X      $40.00    Only in Set 90037            
93640   NP&S   2003   2003   Flat Car   North Pole & Southern   p   X   NP Tree Farm   $40.00    Only in Set 90044            
93700   FNC   None   1990   Gondola   Frank's Nursery & Crafts   P   X       N/A   only found in Set 90102            
93   NP&S   None   1995   Gondola   North Pole & Southern Green Two Wreaths    P   X      N/A   onlyin Sets 90023 & 47            
93   NP&S   30647   1999   Gondola   North Pole & Southern Candy Cane   P   X       N/A   only found in set 90037            
93774   NP&S   2004   2004   Gondola   North Pole & Southern Tan One Wreath   P   X       $53.00    Christmas 2004            
96240         1993   Hand Car   Christmas 1993   P   X   green   $80.00                
96241         1994   Hand Car   Christmas 1994   P   X   red   $90.00                
96241         1996   Hand Car   Christmas 1996   P   X   white   $100.00    96241M            
98278   NP&S   2005   200?   Hopper   3 bay, Scrooge Collieries   P   X       $50.00    Nice Coal for Naughty Childeren            
None   NP&S   None   2006   P Baggage   North Pole & Southern Sam's Club Holiday Special      X   Not Lighted   Sam's C   Sold online only for 90054   NIC         
None   NP&S   1   2003   P Combine   North Pole & Southern Sam's  & Boscov's   P   X   Battery Lights   Set Car    Only in sets 90044 &47   NIC         
None   NP&S   None   2005   P Combine   North Pole & Southern Sam's North Star Express       X   Battery Lights   Set Car    Only in Set 90051   NIC         
None   NP&S   None   2006   P Combine   North Pole & Southern Sam's Club Holiday Special      X   Not Lighted   None   Sold online only for 90054   NIC         
None   PE   1985   2000   P-Coach   Polar Express   P   X   Battery Lights   Set Car    Only in set 90036            
None   NP&S   None   2005   P-Coach   North Pole & Southern Sam's North Star Express       X   Battery Lights   Sam's C   Only in Set 90051   NIC         
None   NP&S   None   2006   P-Coach   North Pole & Southern Sam's Club Holiday Special      X   Not Lighted   Sam's C   Only in Set 90054   NIC         
None   PE   2000   2000   P-Obs   Polar Express   P   X   Battery Lights   Set Car    Only in set 90036            
None   NP&S   None   2006   P-Obs   North Pole & Southern Sam's Club Holiday Special      X   Not Lighted   Set Car    Only in Set 90054   NIC         
98178   NP&S   2003   2003   Stock Car   NP&S Reindeer Transport Express   P   X   metal wheels   $52.00                 
98140   NP&S   None   2006   Stock Car   NP&S Reindeer Transport       X   metal wheels   $57.00                
None   NP&S   None   2007   Stock Car   NP&S Reindeer Transport       X   New variation   None   Northern Lights set only            
93940   NP&S   1993   1993   Street Car   closed, Christmas 1993   P   X   red w/ green roof    $125.00                
93941   NP&S   1995   1994   Street Car   closed, Christmas 1995   P   X   green w/ red roof   $125.00                
747694   None   None   1993?   Street Car   Trolley, North Pole ( musicial, auto-rev )      X   metal wheels   $80.00    Dillard's            
93440   NP&S   2002   2002   Tank Car   Mrs. Claus' Special Eggnog   P   X       $50.00                
Looks like most entries wiil be three lines starting with the Bachmann Item Number, Reporting Marks, Intro Year The $ amount is the original MSRP.  There will be various notes when applicable.    Some items have no number or two digits, because they they were only in a set

Bachmann made two North Star Express sets one is not a Christmas.

There are three 90047 Wonderland Flyer some variations exist.   

There are many other variations to numerous to mention.

I am open to questions on the above,  but please study the list in detail before asking.   Having said that I still believe there are no dumb questions!

Milk and cookies are out and I have to go to bed so Santa will come!  It will be my grandaughter's first!!!

Enjoy your Christmas
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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2007, 12:56:46 AM »

Looks like they posted in one line or two line entries.    Hope you can figure out most of it.   The info provided is for the personal use of readers of this website.  I have copy righted the info above.  Please refer any who want the info to this website entry.    Please contact me if you wish to reprint the info elsewhere.   

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kybaugh

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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2007, 11:32:53 PM »


WOW!   I had no idea there were that many Holiday / Christmas sets produced over the years.

Initially, I thought it would be fun to try to collect all the different holiday sets.  I wrongly assumed that just a few different sets were made.  Looks like it's time for plan B.

Thanks again Bill for providing / sharing that information.   That's a lot of information.  It appears one of the first things I need to do,  is to learn how to tell a Walshearts valve gear from a stephenson valve gear.
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2007, 12:45:50 AM »

Heh.  Easy.

Walschaerts:



Stephenson:  Well, can't find an animated one, but it doesn't have the slide for reverse and the outside eccentric crank; it's located inside, so you get a much simpler looking engine outside the axles and frames, like this:



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