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pdlethbridge
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« on: March 01, 2008, 08:37:19 PM »

While searching google earth I came across this arrangement in Hamburg, Germany Never saw any thing like this before and was wondering if there was a logical explanation? You can clearly see the areas where there were 2 roundhouses and the ties for each turntables ring rail and the center bearings are still in place Location is south, south west of Evendi Arena in Hamburg


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SteamGene

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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2008, 09:43:44 PM »

I only see one roundhouse.  Is it possible that the two "disks" are the turntable pit and the turntable itself?   Perhaps an RAF 500 pound bomb moved it back in 1943-44.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2008, 10:10:36 PM »

actually there are the remains of 2 roundhouses, if you google it and get a closer look you will see the ties are still there for 2 separate roundhouses
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2008, 10:23:22 PM »

Maybe one was destroyed, or razed, and they decided that if they were gonna have to rebuild the roundhouse anyway, they might as well build it in a new position, which would be just a tiny bit better?


Just a guess....
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2008, 10:24:34 PM »

CAr shop and engine shop... like Roanoke?
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2008, 10:35:11 PM »

Several major engine facilities - like Roanoke - had more than one roundhouse and turntable.  I'm thinking that Spencer, NC did, and Steamtown.
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pdlethbridge
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2008, 11:08:10 PM »

but overlaping turntables?
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 08:40:49 PM »

almost an opical illussion, seems one- a new one was built over the unfilled pit of an old one, with all the leads from the lower one. the shadows overlap too. Has to be a new one on top. How old is this? a goggle earth? 1990's or newer huh? wow. Wasn't a double exposure was it?
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 09:08:19 PM »

I got another answer at another site and here it is. As originally built, both turntables were smaller and touching. In the 20's both were enlarged and overlapped. Circuitry prevented them from colliding. Because the area was so small nothing else could be done. Enlarging and overlapping the TT's allowed keeping the roundhouses and tracks in place and saved them money.
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 09:16:43 PM »

I got another answer at another site and here it is. As originally built, both turntables were smaller and touching. In the 20's both were enlarged and overlapped. Circuitry prevented them from colliding. Because the area was so small nothing else could be done. Enlarging and overlapping the TT's allowed keeping the roundhouses and tracks in place and saved them money.

This is the most logical assumption so far.  I believe you are correct.

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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2008, 11:22:51 AM »

Yep, but I bigger question is 'why'? The ol' roundhouse footprint is nearly a perfect circle, you'd think one big TT would do the trick....Tutonic engineering huh? All the top one's weight must have rested on the center bearing too....wow.
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2008, 08:31:48 PM »

This is not an error.  There were two overlapping turntables.

See here: -

http://www.germansteam.co.uk/Archive/1969Sept.jpg

Parts of the overlapping turntables can be seen.

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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2008, 09:39:44 PM »

Well now if thats just not the damnest thing i ever saw.....but pictures don't lie Grin

Have to send that shot to the boy .....
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2008, 10:21:14 PM »

Wie haf weys...
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2008, 10:34:02 PM »

vie haf veis...
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