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Yampa Bob

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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2008, 08:25:00 PM »

We don't have a Michaels store up here.  Since most of our scenery will be sagebrush, we are using small pieces from the hill behind our house, sprayed with flower preservative.  I can't find suitable kit trees either, we have Ponderosa Pine, Aspens (Quakeys) scrub oak, and cedar on the mesa.  Along the river in the valley are mostly Cottonwoods and messy willows.  Modeling alfalfa and Pubescent grass will be a challenge.

This area produces great honey due to the abundance of various clovers, so we plan to model beehives.  We have our own hives so we enjoy gallons of honey each year.

Bob
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2008, 11:32:15 PM »

a good place to get all your scenic supplies
http://www.woodlandscenics.com/
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rocknblues
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2008, 02:36:15 PM »

 I have been using sprigs of Sprirea (its a garden shrub), with the dried flowers still on top for the Woodlands scenic foam to stick to it. Then using WS course light green and a little WS dead grass(fine) and WS green grass(fine). Painting the trunks white with dabs of black for white birch trees. Its satisfies my taste so far. My goal when I started was to make as much from scratch as possible, and have been finding that very fun and interesting. Another shrub sprig I have been using is from a Potentilla bush, the sprigs are rough so it looks like bark, and they make great dead looking trees. Thanks for the tip on using hairspray for adhesive, my wife has a full product line already LOL.  Ohhhh, good clover honey is great! (I don't mean as an adhesive........hey wait a minute.... let me think...) LOL  - Rock Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2008, 03:18:09 PM »

Rocknblues,
You might want to heat or nuke real twigs to kill any varmits that may be living there.
Gene
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2008, 07:10:34 AM »

I am searching for good looking birch trees, so far my search has come up empty. Actually, I havent been able to find any evergreens that look good either. Maybe my standards are too high, I live in the woods and so far have not really seen any HO scale trees that look good. In most cases the trunks of the trees are too thick for their heighth.

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First off, it is "height", not "heighth".  Now, there are several sources for trees; deciduous species can be found via "Scenic Express"-and these trees are real winners!  Two options:  They sell ready made, or you can save a wad of scratch by rolling your own.

On Conifers:  Unless you are prepared to spend a lot of money for quality trees, you will have to build your own.  I use spruce square, the type used for model aircraft construction.  Most conifer specie tend to grow relatively straight, so this material is suitable.  There are mucherino sources of information regarding construction techniques, finishing, etc, so you will have to do your own research and find a method that is "suitable to your standards".  Also, this is a relatively time-consuming project; so unless you have patience, you might want explore other venue.


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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2008, 09:21:58 AM »

One shouldn't correct the spelling of a word and then use a term like mucherino, which is not a word either. Just a thought.
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2008, 09:58:07 AM »

One shouldn't correct the spelling of a word and then use a term like mucherino, which is not a word either. Just a thought.
You're not seriously saying that you've never heard the term "mucherino", are you?  Ahh, the sheltered lives some of us live...  Grin

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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2008, 11:06:46 AM »

The word mucho I assume is Spanish for much, but adding the suffix "ino" is making up a term that has no more validity as a word than a mispelling of one such as heighth. Now surely you are not saying that no ones deserves having a bad dictionary day.
I take offense to the way the post was worded. Starting off with the phrase "First of all". In communication classes that are taught in college, it is not considered good communication skills. It can be interpreted that the person is saying "Before I can lower myself to your level to answer your question, I must correct your spelling or grammar errors".
I think any reasonably intelligent person would have known what I was talking about even though I incorrectly spelled a word. There  is no need to talk down to someone. Have you ever read about different dialect from different areas of the United States? The mdwest pronounces words differently than say someone from the east or west?  I have been around the block a couple of times myself. Let's get back to railroading rather than nitpicking (did I spell that right?) the spelling of a word. Have you ever heard the phrase "People who live in glass houses......" or do I need to finish the phrase to get the point across? - Rock
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2008, 02:12:04 PM »

Just a thought, stick to the topic - Scenery info.  If you want to debate grammer and spelling go to the NEA Website - you'll have a grand time!
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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2008, 03:13:07 PM »

John, it just so happens that the error is quite common.  In fact, I caught myself using it twice before I caught it.   Cheesy  I've found precious few discussions on grammar on the NEA website.  Perhaps that of the NCTE - I'll have to check.  As a retired English teacher and a still active sub, I've found lots of kids who allow web/text/IM language to creep from away the electrons.  Now Rocknblues is not a kid, I'm sure, but I think Rich just used the opportunity to point out a common error performed by many literate writers.  The fact is we have seen many questions to this forum so mangled that it was impossible to figure out what was needed.  Clear communication needs to be precise.  It was a garbled field order that caused the Charge of the Light Brigade, and there are plenty of other examples.
The fact is he gave excellent advice on trees and nobody has seen fit to comment on that. 
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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2008, 07:24:24 PM »

RocknBlues;
If you take offense to my posts, tough!  After some of the insipid tripe I have seen that gets indiscriminately plastered upon this site, I feel no more remorse than the little red snake in a poem you are probably more familiar with than I, considering your age.

If you want to mispell words like some miserable little cretin, and cream the king's English in front of spelling and punctuation sticklers like Gene and myself, go ahead-and take the heat for it.  Mucherino heat.

Have a nice day...

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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2008, 09:20:34 PM »

Bob;
On grass:
Try again, Scenic Express, but also-and I really like their product here-Woodland Scenics "silflor"@ grass.  Check out their websites.

As for Sagebrush:  I have seen some really convincingly nice trees made from that and Nandina bush.  We have a native growth called "Old Man's BEars", and I find it makes excellent brambles and hedgerow filler.  Dave Frary once told me that I can find Lichen Moss in abundance in Connecticut.  I have as yet to fnd it other than in the hobby shop or AC Moore.  Besides, cleaning rabbit pellets out of it isn't exactly my cup of tea.

Autumn is a great time to gather scenic stuff.  Besides being generally beneficial, a walk in the fields can yield some excellent material.  I bring Cody with me, as he likes to 'splore. 

You know who also has great trees?  Jains trains.  She has put together material and t echnique that is really convincing for specie like birch, aspen, etc., and you can pull off some other hardwoods also. 

Colorado is tough to ape for cenery, but New England is tougher-more trees per.  Geologically speaking, it is also a much older, settled area than the western United States, which more readily lends itself to that endeavour.

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« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2008, 10:25:11 PM »

Of course, you can always got the "hard core" route and grow your own tree armatures.  Teloxys, or "Seafoam" is popular for this.  It grows ~10" high.  A picture of the growing plant can be seen here:
http://www.katzkuntrykuttins.biz/seeds.htm  almost at the bottom of the page.  A couple packets of seeds should yield a good sized forest (or two).

Remember guys, it's  just a hobby.

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Yampa Bob

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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2008, 02:03:31 AM »

You guys are hilarious. Typing is difficult for some people.  Heck, I can barely see the keyboard but luckily I am a touch typist.  The font is so small in the post box I usually write in Wordpad then paste it here.  I keep a dictionary by the computer and spell check everything, heaven forbid I should ever make a typo.  "Typo" is in the dictionary.

Please remember that everything we post on this forum is read by millions around the world, can we not try to make a good impression?  My goodness everyone makes mistakes.

In the summer we have ground cover with tiny leaves that would make good trees. I think if a person took some time to look around there are lots of possibilities for natural scenery.

Bob 
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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2008, 08:00:29 AM »

Correction:

Silflor@ is a product of Scenic Express and not Woodland Scenics.

"Old man's Bears" is a typo.  it should have been:  "Old Man's Beard".
It grows on the trunks of trees in this area; and assumably, other areas.

"Jains Trains" should be "Jane's Trains".

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