News:

Please read the Forum Code of Conduct   >>Click Here <<

Main Menu

Two locos on one decoder

Started by Running Bear, August 22, 2008, 10:10:19 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

Running Bear

I'm getting ready to wire a Bachmann decoder to a pair of specially prepared P2K locos. The decoder will collect power from the wheels of both units and will drive the motors of both units. Obviously this means the units will be permanently tethered to each other. The units are a FA-1 with a Bachmann FT-A shell and a FB-1 with an Athearn F7-B shell. I've heard of this being done on a couple other forums. I'm about to put it to the test.
Running Bear

Jim Banner

Just be sure your test includes measuring the stall current of both locomotives and then selecting a decoder that can handle the total current.  Otherwise, when you get to the smoke test part of your installation the decoder will probably pass - pass smoke that is.
Growing older is mandatory but growing up is optional.

Running Bear

The stall tests I performed indicate that both locos together pull less than 1 amp at full stall, so a 1 amp decoder SHOULD be all right.
Running Bear

Jim2903

An FT-F7 lashup with Alco trucks ... I'd like to see a pic of that rig when it's done.
Jim Dudlicek
Hoffman Estates, IL

Cascade International Ry.


Running Bear

I've completed this weeks project. That was to install one decoder to run two locomotives. Here's an account (with photos) of how it was done.

First, the item on which this is all centered. The decoder to be used.

This is a standard Bachmann two function decoder. There's nothing special about it. Current capacity: 1 amp. Motor output: 1 amp. Function output: 100 mA.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Next are the chassis to be used. Twin Proto 2000 FA chassis. Since they're both identical we'll focus on one. Here the pickup wires have been linked with their identical twins on the other chassis. Now I know somebody out there is going to notice that a red pickup wire is connected to a gray pickup wire. The answer to that is simple. Life-Like used a red wire for the right rail pickup (hot frame). Now here's where it gets interesting. Life-Like, in it's infinite wisdom, used a red wire on the rear truck for left rail pickup and a gray wire on the front truck for left rail pickup.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Next, the wires for motor control have been added. Since the decoder will not be powering the headlight (that will be installed later and connected to track power so it's always on) I have elected to install it in the B unit. Here the wires in the A unit have been connected to the wires going to the B unit.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In the next photo we see that the wires have been passed through the door windows of the shells. I drilled the windows out a little bigger to insure that the wires can move freely.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For those who know that I have a past history of using masking tape here's a photo showing the wire connections wrapped in ELECTRICAL tape.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here we see the decoder taped in place in the rear of the B unit and the red and black wires connected to the pickup wires of both units. This insures good power pickup as the joined units will be collecting power with 16 wheels. The orange and gray wires of the decoder have been connected to the wires linking the motors of both units.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here the two chassis are coupled together as they will be in service. The decoder can be seen taped in place at the rear of the B unit chassis.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The shells have been put back on the chassis and the locos have already made several trips around the layout pulling an Athearn F7-A unit and 15 cars through the entire gambit of a crawling slow start at near full stall all the way up to top speed and the decoder didn't even get warm.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here the wires can be seen passing between the two units. Being that they're close-coupled the gap is only a 1/4 of an inch.

Running Bear

Running Bear

Quote from: Jim2903 on August 22, 2008, 01:03:36 PM
An FT-F7 lashup with Alco trucks ... I'd like to see a pic of that rig when it's done.
Running Bear