Hope new Bachmann GP7's will have correct numbers?

Started by Thommo, July 11, 2009, 02:59:25 PM

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Thommo

There is a PDF on index page with announcement for GP7 engines in fall 2009. PRR engine pictured looks very nice! :)

But, according to http://broadway.pennsyrr.com/Rail/Prr/Rosters/diesel.html number on PRR loco is not correct! #8542 was the EMD SW9 switcher! ???

On some other forums, users are stating that B&O ande Chessie engines also have incorrect numbers!

I hope this will be corrected on the production run, it would be unprofessional to make such a error, and would fuel "Bachmann is for kids" topics... :-\

Pacific Northern

Yes, the debate on the new Bachmann being a toy or not is growing quickly on that other board.

ATLAS
Pacific Northern


pdlethbridge

Numbers are not important, what is important is that the model is well detailed and a good runner. Paint and decals are always added to my models so that makes numbers unimportant.

the Bach-man

Dear All,
Every number and paint scheme was taken from a prototype photo.
Have fun!
the Bach-man

BaltoOhioRRfan

hey Bach-Man what scheme will be on the B&O? the spelled out road name(like in the GP7 photo i posted a link to) or the B&O paint scheme(like the GP9 photo i linked to)?

Also you going to be at the Timonium show this year?
Emily C.
BaltoOhioRRFan
B&O - America's #1 Railroad.

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rogertra

Quote from: BaltoOhioRRfan on July 11, 2009, 08:43:05 PM
B&O had two 6414's

GP7
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bo6414.jpg

and
GP9
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/bo/bo6414goc.jpg

Aren't they both the same GP7 as in both photos the unit has the 3 louvers under the cab and the two vertical louvers under the radiator grills, the GP7 spotting details?

The only difference is in the lower photo, the unit has had the skirting over the fuel tank cut away, a common modification.  I would have thought that someone who signs himself "BaltoOhioRRfan" would have known that.

BaltoOhioRRfan

I'm not a deisel person, i know more of steam person, the GP7 and GP9 detail i gave was based on what the guy said in the photo description on the website where i got the photos from.
Emily C.
BaltoOhioRRFan
B&O - America's #1 Railroad.

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Chris350

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Quote from: Thommo on July 11, 2009, 02:59:25 PM
But, according to http://broadway.pennsyrr.com/Rail/Prr/Rosters/diesel.html number on PRR loco is not correct! #8542 was the EMD SW9 switcher! ???
perhaps it the victim of a late service renumber... SP did it, older engines got new number sequences as new models came into service....

Thommo

Quote from: the Bach-man on July 11, 2009, 11:38:14 PM
Dear All,
Every number and paint scheme was taken from a prototype photo.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
Thanks on the answer. Maybe this Pennsy Geep received that number in later years, replacing SW switcher road #.

As for B&O GP7, I would like it in blue-grey-striped early scheme, but they will probably come in all blue livery.

jward

the pennsy gp7s were 8454-8487. 8513-8544 were sw9s. in later years the pennsy renumbered their gp7s to the 5800 series for the upcoming penn central merger. the 8500 series was then occupied by former pennsy sw1s.......

as for the b&o gp7s, they did occuppy the number series 6400-6424 from about 1956 until 1975, when they were renumbered to the 5600 series to make room for the western maryland gp9s to occupy 6400-6420. the "second" 6414 was thus not a b&o unit at all, but a wm one.

as for there being a 6400 series gp7 in chessie paint, i've asked that question on the b&o yahoo group. the most reliable source to reply said there were none. i've looked in vain for photos myself of a chessie painted 6400 series gp7. if in fact bachmann has access to photos we are not aware of then i'd stand corrected, and put the word out on the list.

that said, i am very interested in the bachmann gp7, and will definitely buy several.
Jeffery S Ward Sr
Pittsburgh, PA

Chris350

 I'd like to see an undec option so I could do em up Black Widow.  Yeah I could jut spray over one of the others, but I hate the idea of repainting something that is already pretty.  I need one in UP as well, and see it will be released.  These are not Spectrum level, correct?  Will there be any space under the hood for add on DCC/sound?  That was one of the drawbacks of the P2k's.

jward

southern pacific never had gp7s. cotton belt had 1, #320.

for a list of original owners, see the roster on my webpage:

http://www.trainweb.org/emdloco/gp7.htm
Jeffery S Ward Sr
Pittsburgh, PA

Chris350

Quote from: jward on July 13, 2009, 04:59:25 PM
southern pacific never had gp7s. cotton belt had 1, #320.

for a list of original owners, see the roster on my webpage:

http://www.trainweb.org/emdloco/gp7.htm
ahh correct.  I want GP-9's not 7's... I should know that I spend  too much time wandering this site near as I can tell anything a person could ever want to know about SP or SSW.

the Bach-man

Dear All,
The road number on the PRR Geep will be 8805.
I don't know where the switcher number came from...
Have fun!
the Bach-man