Quote from: Albert in N on February 04, 2012, 09:49:20 PM
Just a thought, do you have other turnouts connected to your spur track?  Since EZ Track turnouts are power routing, any track connected to the turnout spur loses all power when the turnout is thrown closing it.

No, no other turnouts, plus I've tested, as mentioned a few posts above, by removing the turnouts from my track and connecting them to a single power srtip all by themselves. They provide power to both lines all the time.

Quote from: Albert in N on February 04, 2012, 09:49:20 PM
 If you build a "yard" onto your spur track, the entire "yard" goes dead when the spur track is closed.

No it dosn't.  This the point I'm making The statements/ experiance of others is not matching what is being sold now it would appear.

Quote from: Desertdweller on February 04, 2012, 02:08:59 PM
Rock,

When locos are set on both tracks leading from the turnout, and power is applied, do they both move in the same direction?

Yes.
.. and as far as I can see that is normal...for instance in a DCC setup where you use only one power block for all, you need to have power to all lines regardless of switch settings. having power routing turnouts which only provided power to one line would mean you 'had to install a common rail wiring system which would defeat the point of using E-Z for a lot of people - ie as a pull down put up train set.

Quote from: Desertdweller on February 04, 2012, 02:08:59 PM
Regardless, you should be able to solve (or at least help) the situation by electrically isolating one or both tracks coming off your turnout.

Cut a gap or insert an insulated rail joiner at a rail joint shortly beyond the switch.  Now, you have cut off for sure power downstream of that gap.  Solder a length of wire from both sides of that gap to an electrical switch.  Opening or closing that electrical switch will feed or cut power to that segment of track.

Which is exactly what I am doing already for all my sidings.

Quote from: Desertdweller on February 04, 2012, 02:08:59 PM
I have an N-scale railroad that includes a large passenger station with double-ended platform tracks.  I have EZ-track switches at each end of the tracks.  Isolating the tracks this way allows me to keep trains parked on those tracks regardless of track switch position or polarity at either end.  My electrical switches are Atlas Selectors, which allow me to link the controlled track to either of two control throttles.

I know I haven't solved your switch problem, but, hopefully, this suggestion will allow you to work around the problem.

Well I think you have perhaps without actualy saying it.  You indicate from this comment that you have to isolate your E-Z track switchs (turnouts) so I take it that the EZ turnouts I have are correct and the statements made by others are in fact incorrect?

What I find strange is that in both those links the person being told the turnouts were power routing and cut power to the line not pointed at, didn't come back and say it didn't work that way.  I almost posted there to say they were given wrong advise, but decided to start this thread instead to try and get to the bottom of it.

For instance if I do the layby siding setup as described here, http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,16858.0.html
both trains still move, so clearly the way the bachmann turnouts work is not as described by Albert in N in that thread.
They would be, using his decription actualy be "insulated frog turnouts"

Its a contradiction - someone has to be wrong, both can't be right unless we are talking about two different things.

Thanks for your detailed explination Desertdweller.

However we may be talking about two different things when we use the term power routing.

I don't have any non-working turnouts, all works as it should in regards the frog, trains move through fine etc, what I'm questoning is the 'statement/advise' that these turnouts are: "the turnouts are power routing, i.e. that the track which the switch is not pointing to (either straight or diverging) will not receive power, thus causing the train to stop."
This is not what I'm finding at all!..
The four turnouts I recieved in this kit (and the only ones I have in Bachmann E~Z track) 'DO' continue to provide power to the track they are not pointing to.
I'm not saying that's right or wrong, since different brands are wired differently, what I'm saying is it does not match the statements others have made about power routing as above.

So either my four switches are wired differently or the statement is wrong..

Can someone confirm that a N scale Bachmann #6 turnout is meant to 'NOT' supply power to the line its not pointing/switched to?

On the links provided in original post, that was the advise given, yet its not what I have found, so before I start rewiring/cutting my turnouts to get that effect I would like to confirm my turnouts are in fact incorrect. At this stage I feel the advise given may be incorrect.

Thanks

I too am in Australia and just getting into DCC and have just ordered a Dynamas, although I also have a E-Z commander ordered as well and intend to use that on the DCC track mainly (have train mad 10yr son so seems like a good idea) while the Dynamas will just do the CV programing until I get to building another bigger DCC layout in a year or so.

In the meantime a connected, (For moving stock across on dual power decoder equipped locos), but electrically isolated powerwise twin track circuits running straight DC on one for Analog and DCC on the other will be the setup.

I doubt I'll find the E-Z commander too frustrating because I will have the Dynamas to set the acceleration curves with, etc, and for a 10yr old simple is best.

I use a stepdown inverter from 240v to 110v to run the Bachmann wall pack on the standard DC analog controller and don,t see why the DCC controllers would be any different.

Dennis

Quote from: Desertdweller on February 02, 2012, 11:45:50 PM
Check your track to see if there is another track leading into it that might be feeding it.

No only one track, I have each one set up as a simple dead end siding.

Taking this further I removed a turnout, connected it to a rerailer/power section, put two engines on each  of the Y (with a 5" section to hold the locos) engaged power and both loco's moved regardless of where the switch was pointing.
I did this with a second turnout with the same result. - these turnouts are definatly not power routing!

So the question is
a) has Bachmann changed the turnout wiring?
b) do I have some incorrectly wired units (4 of)?
c) is there a difference between N scale units and HO, as in people are refering to HO when then they talk about a power routing feature.

I would like to upload the pic's/ diagrams etc but it still won't accept anything I try. but I think I've made it fairly clear anyway.

Quote from: Desertdweller on February 02, 2012, 11:45:50 PM
If you take the cover plate off the bottom of the turnout, you will see a copper rocker switch that has contacts that shift when the switch is operated.  When the switch actuating mechanism is moved to its limits, the rock should contact one pair or the other of contact plates.

This next to do..but since all four are behaving the same, its not going to be something faulty with all of them, unless its a wiring mistake.

Quote from: James in FL on February 02, 2012, 09:22:51 PM

Can you post a drawing of your track plan showing the location of both your turnouts and your terminal track(s)?

yes here is the current layout of the tracks(s).  Both are DC with seperate contollers.

All tracks remain live regardless of where the turnouts are switched..

well I would upload the image which is only 86kb, having just spent the best part of an hour drawing it, but it won't let me, says the upload folder is full.. contact admin..

I have read in several message the statement that

"If you are using E-Z Track, you will find that the turnouts are power routing, i.e. that the track which the switch is not pointing to (either straight or diverging) will not receive power, thus causing the train to stop."
example here http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,15960.0.html
and here http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,16858.0.html

Yet the E-Z Track turnouts I have do not cut off the power from the spur line track its not pointing to.

So what's the go?

- I am currently just maually using the flick switch as I won't bother with the AC operation till I make the final layout.
Are they power routing/non-routing if under AC action, not manual?

  My four turnouts came with the 'First railway pack' if that makes any difference which I doubt.