try this guy he bought a lot of parts from williams just before they sold out to Bachmann

http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_yr9cg1

Quote from: phillyreading on May 03, 2011, 09:06:05 AM
If you are going to run a train around the ceiling, supported by wall brackets, make sure to leave enough room between the wall and the track or you will scrape the wall with a long engine or passenger car.
Also run feeder wires around the outside of the track near the wall to keep power loss down. I run 027 track around a 13 by 11 foot room and have power connections every three sections of track, have extra power hookups as the last thing you want is a dead or weak spot on your tracks.

Lee F.

Yeah I've done this befor the last time was with O-54 curves and I had 18" passenger cars. I may put the Standard gauge track up on blocks instead that way I don't use as much wood and 2 less area for the O gauge to compete with. and wouldn't really have to do custom cutting for the curves. I will do a section of standard gauge then put O in front of it till I get it how I want it. Still putting the shelfing up. have about 13' left to go. then I get to put the green indoor outdoor carpet on about 3/4 of it as figure I have about 1/4 done at present. When get tracked laid I will probably after happy with everything will solder wire connections between center rails and between either inner or outer rails so I have good connections all the way around. I normally do it on the inside of the rail as less noticeable but if you ever look at real rails they have wire between rails not really sure for what other than maybe some type of grounding.

Joe I will look into some type of railing but not sure at present what I will do for them.  that also will be down the road as I still see this project being a couple of months till done as I work a lot of 12 hr days and then when I'm not I'm usually tired so only work on it when have my 2 days off in a row and work a rotation where I off one weekend every three weeks and I also get a Tuesday and Wednesday in the middle of that also. Still have to pick up the green indoor/outdoor carpet from the floor where I laid it out so I could have a carpet central layout. so I need to get the fastrack up first lol and still have a few buildings and train cars down there that I need to pack up. then will cut the carpet about 10" wide as want to cover the 7 inches on bottom and 3/4" on side and about 3 inches on top for the O track to go on so guess I need 11"

No switches for this plan just a big loop around the ceiling area of the room ( 14' X 16' ) it will be the train on the outside inside and on either 1x4's or 2x4's for a little lift will be my standard gauge set I discovered I actually have room to run 2 standard gauge sets but only have one lol so figure run this with some passenger cars in front of my prewar standard gauge set an 8E and 2 passenger cars all in olive green.

Personally I think it was a better deal when you got to pick a freight car or caboose. As most of the platinum cars I could of care less about now have to admit even thou didn't buy I liked the one for 2010 the wheel car.

The last time I talked to Bachmann they told me if they still made the engine and model that Williams had then it was covered by there repair but I think you could get the item for less than you would pay sending it back and paying there fee to repair and send back to you I think its now $25.00. if they can't or don't have the part heres 2 other choices to try this guy bought a lot of parts from Williams before the deal was done with Bachmann


Model Trains Outlet
5570 Chambers Hill Road
Harrisburg, PA 17111-2507 map
Phone:(717) 564-8633

other choice is Marty at  www.maPajuntion.com
 

I have an old FM Trainmaster PRR By williams this is so old it has the plastic fuel tank area instead of diecast which Williams switched to for weight. any way my question is will this run on O-27 track I know the new ones say O-31

Kinda figured that as when I reread the parts list they had listed
293-E001 Operating coupler assembly                                 1
293-07-01B Non-Operating Coupler                                      2

My plans actually is to get mini commander from ERR and get coil couplers to go on this as its actually going behind an Lionel PA-1 with tmcc the paint isn't an exact match but I don't remember seeing exact matches when growing up as a child on the real thing. They look great running together. I also plan to paint the trucks on the Lionel to what I believe a realistic color of black which the Bachmann B-unit has
I also plan to add a light inside as effects to make it look like it has someone in there working.

Thanks again for your response.


Bill

Thats what I'm talking about most call the B unit a PB-1 B for B-unit A for A-unit. I tried emailing them but haven't heard anything back . That was about 2 weeks ago. now i know there busy but to be honest i have only once gotten an email back from them and that told me to call them lol.

I got this the other day new in box still sealed in the shrink wrap from my dealer. It's supposedly according to your website and its packing list have one operating coupler and one non-operating coupler. This came with 2 non operating couplers. I sent an email to Bachmann service email address and no reply this has been about 2 weeks.

to me it would just be a wiring change at the factory and it would make them run better if they wired them in series. As stated you still can make them fly off the track wired in series but you have smother and slower starts when wired in series

Quote from: 3rail on August 31, 2009, 10:36:38 AM
Dear rtraincollector,

Some of your information is incorrect.  The price of the electronic buzzer horn was $19.99. The lowest price on a True Blast II sound boards was $29.95 in 2006.  The girls set was offered in early 2006 for a pre-order price of $399.95. That only lasted for a few months and the price increased to $499.95. 
thanks for the correction as I was trying to remember if it was 19.99 or 29.95 . still thou even at 29.95 there is a about a 40% increase.

The Platinum Club 20% discount damaged Williams' relationship with the dealers.  Bachmann does not compete with the sales of our dealers and they can sell the products for what ever price they wish.yes they can sell for what ever they wish but I've been told by more than one that Bachman informed them they needed to advertise at retail

For warranty issues, we cover any Williams product that is still cataloged.  Click for Warranty terms.I called before about this and did get Thur and was told if it is Williams by Williams it depends weather its covered or not. All you can do is send it in and it will be determined then.

Regarding no horn on the True Blast board.  It is very unusual for one sound to work and not the other.  If you are using an older transformer that has a voltage boost like KW, ZW etc.  Try pushing the whistle button to the halfway position. This may solve the triggering problem.My bust here no the bell nor the horn works I do hear a click but that's it. and I used a CW-80 transformer so it wasn't one of the older ones.

Regards,

3rail

As stated above I still like Williams products just have had some problems getting Thur to service/parts department. I did happen to find the lens thou last night I was looking at the engine and heard something loose inside so took cover off and there it was it had come loose inside. I may concider sending the engine in as it is still being sold by you all as its the scale GG-1.
Thank-you for your reply and your correction of my mistakes. I was not really trying to bad mouth Bachmann as I always thought highly of them but it just seems Williams has really raised there prices. I'm guessing it just the difference of proffit margin and inflation and not hearing back on the lens for the engine. Maybe I just slip Thur the cracks on my calls. I will probably look into sending the engine in and see what is what as per warranty on this item.

sunshine there seems to be more problems to me with the now Williams by Bachmann. As a whole still a good product but If I had these problems and if it was still just Williams they would send me the parts free but since this engine is a Williams before take over I will have to buy the parts I need and the sound board use to be $19.99 now its 41.99

The Pink girls set use to be $399.99 now $599.95 and we use to get 20% discount as being a platinum member I'm not for a few reasons one we chose a car of our wishes not a car promoting there products. I know all companies have gone up to me it seems Bachmann the most. To me Bachmann isn't the value it use to be. I still like there product but probably won't buy anymore especially since they strong armed there dealers and told them they can't advertise any price other then retail. so to get a deal you have to call A, B, and C to see who will give you the best price.


Okay Done with my rant

Thanks will give him a call tomorrow ( monday)

I don't know what other persons problem with them is but I have called at least 3 times and left message with return phone number and email address and have yet to get a reply and all I need is the front (or back depends how you look at it) head light lens for my GG-1 scale size by williams. I bought this new in box off bay of E and it was missing and guy couldn't help me. Also the true blast horn doesn't work but the bell does. but not worried about that as probally will put tmcc in it and sound.

The CW-80 transformer first issues had problems that have since suposely corrected theres a way to tell which you have but I'm not sure. Personally If you can I would look into a lionel postwar ZW 1st choice and second choice I would go with either MTH Z4000 or Lionel new zw with at least 2, 180 watt power bricks